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Julian Assange sighting, and it's uglier than you might have guessed: (Original Post) Blue_Tires Mar 2018 OP
5-Star Movement is usually characterized as extreme left FarCenter Mar 2018 #1
Yeah, guys like this are buddy buddy with "extreme left" movements... Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #5
5-Star is Euroskeptic and anti-immigrant, which is the common thread with Farage FarCenter Mar 2018 #8
They are quasi-fascists ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #9
But I have the feeling that "the rest of their positions" Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #10
Holy shit. OilemFirchen Mar 2018 #11
I think you may be the first person in the world to call them "extreme left" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #12
I really, really despise that fucker. ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #2
He's a terrorist. I would put him in the same category as Bin Laden. Initech Mar 2018 #3
Pretty much ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #4
A CIA drone strike would be perfectly legal against Dawson Leery Mar 2018 #7
WHEW, i thought he might be at the white house. spanone Mar 2018 #6
Page Doesn't Exist. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #13
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
1. 5-Star Movement is usually characterized as extreme left
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:30 PM
Mar 2018

Ideology

In the Five Star Movement converge themes derived from ecological and anti-particracy promoting the direct participation of citizens in the management of public affairs through forms of digital democracy. The movement wants to be a "democratic encounter outside of party and associative ties and without the mediation of directive or representational organisms, recognising to all users of the Internet the role of government and direction that is normally attributed to a few".[88] From the economic point of view, it embraces the theories of degrowth, supporting the creation of "green jobs" and the rejection of polluting and expensive "great works", including incinerators and high-speed rail, aiming to an overall better quality of life and greater social justice.[89] The Five Star Movement proposes the adoption of large-scale energy projects, elimination of waste, sustainable mobility, protection of territory from overbuilding, teleworking.[90] The movement's political discourse often refers to the Internet as a solution to many social, economic, and environmental problems. This approach bears similarities with North-American cyber-utopianism and the Californian Ideology.[91]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Star_Movement#Ideology

Northern League and Forward Italy are more on the far right.

The centrist and center-left got whipped in the election by the right and left populists.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
8. 5-Star is Euroskeptic and anti-immigrant, which is the common thread with Farage
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 03:00 PM
Mar 2018

But the rest of their positions are more left than right.

ismnotwasm

(41,916 posts)
9. They are quasi-fascists
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 03:04 PM
Mar 2018

My way or the high way political zealots who will cause s lot of harm trying to get their agenda implemented. But, as usual with these types, collateral damage seems to be part and par of how they think. “Burn it to ground”

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
10. But I have the feeling that "the rest of their positions"
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 06:10 PM
Mar 2018

aren't what got them elected...

When you ride that xenophobia horse all the way to victory, you can't just leave it behind once you're in office...

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
11. Holy shit.
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 06:19 PM
Mar 2018

That word salad has been pureed, passed through a goose, and rolled to Narnia by a possi of dung beetles.

I seriously cannot stop laughing.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,146 posts)
12. I think you may be the first person in the world to call them "extreme left"
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:14 AM
Mar 2018

Notice that the Wikipedia article doesn't say they're anywhere on the left at all. More commonly, it's said it doesn't fit into the left-right paradigm. But there's nothing "extreme left" there, certainly - they are not for lots of nationalization, or a big increase in government spending and taxation.

Previously Five Star backed a referendum on leaving the euro, but Di Maio now describes that as "a last resort which I hope to avoid."

Five Star doesn't conform to the classical left-right ideological spectrum, preferring a pragmatic approach to policy making. Much of its early success has been down to its highly critical attitude towards Italy's establishment parties.

The party is anti-immigration to the extent that it wants "an immediate stop to the sea-taxi service" that brings migrants to Europe. This has been a particular problem for Italy, as migrants fleeing North Africa by boat often make landfall on Italian soil before anything else.

Five Star has also pledged to repeal as many as 400 laws in its first year in power if elected, which it says will simplify the country's tax system and remove unnecessary bureaucracy.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/main-issues-in-italian-general-election-2018-2

Initech

(99,909 posts)
3. He's a terrorist. I would put him in the same category as Bin Laden.
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:36 PM
Mar 2018

In fact I wish we could do to him what we did to Bin Laden.

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