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still_one

(92,118 posts)
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:06 PM Mar 2018

Rhode Island Bill Would Filter Porn, Charge $20 Fee to Bypass

Rhode Island is proposing new legislation that would require that ISPs ban all porn. Not only that, the proposal would require that anybody interested in viewing porn pay a $20 fee per internet-connected device to access it. The legislation in question (pdf), first spotted by The Hill, would require internet service providers block sexual content or other "patently offensive material." ISPs that refused to participate in the system would be fined by the state. Funds raised from the fees would be collected quarterly by the state and used to fund the state’s council on human trafficking.

But the bill's claim to be about stopping human trafficking appears to be little more than a ploy designed to sell the ban on porn.

This legislation is just one of a massive trove of similar bills that have been introduced in several states, none of which have actually been implemented. Some variations of the bills, like the one introduced in South Carolina, attempt to fine any device manufacturer or retailer that sells a device "without a digital blocking system installed."
According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, similar legislation is being pushed in more than fifteen states. And the guy who is pushing for the bills has a checkered history readers might find interesting.
The EFF is also quick to highlight how such porn filtering efforts would not only be technically impossible, it would likely (as is often the case with such filters) result in the filtering of legitimate websites.
"The technical requirements for this kind of aggressive platform censorship at scale are simply unworkable," the EFF notes. "If the attempts of social media sites to censor pornographic images are any indication, we cannot count on algorithms to distinguish, for example, nude art from medical information from pornography. Facing risk of legal liability, companies would likely over-censor and sweep up legal content in their censorship net."
"Legislators should continue to do the right thing: uphold the Constitution, protect consumers, and not use the real problem of human trafficking as an excuse to deprive users of their privacy and free speech," the EFF said.
Most legislatures appear to realize these bills are sloppy, unworkable, threaten free speech, and are being pushed by somebody who shouldn't be writing party invites, much less state law. But it's astonishing how much traction the bills have seen in numerous states all the same.


http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Rhode-Island-Bill-Would-Filter-Porn-Charge-20-Fee-to-Bypass-141373

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Rhode Island Bill Would Filter Porn, Charge $20 Fee to Bypass (Original Post) still_one Mar 2018 OP
I don't think they understand how the internets work. htuttle Mar 2018 #1
I don't think they understand the Constitution still_one Mar 2018 #3
I agree Egnever Mar 2018 #7
I bet the RI statehouse servers will be exempt from this fee, you know... for "research purposes!" TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #25
always remember, there is no amendment before the second amendment! unblock Mar 2018 #2
So, they are... going to make money off porn? shenmue Mar 2018 #4
F the internet police and the fee mongers in government. democratisphere Mar 2018 #5
Who is to decide what is porn? Seeing the pron discussions on this board shows a wide difference of wasupaloopa Mar 2018 #6
Bingo. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #11
I'm sure Ted Cruz would pay the $20 Zorro Mar 2018 #8
This is Matthew28 Mar 2018 #9
K&R, but come on in and buy 200 lbs of grenades for "protection" / sarcasm uponit7771 Mar 2018 #10
How would they define whats Porn? MrScorpio Mar 2018 #12
3 or 4 Major Nikon Mar 2018 #17
People will easily bypass the purity filters Renew Deal Mar 2018 #13
They want a piece of the action. lpbk2713 Mar 2018 #14
Puritanism and hypocrisy IluvPitties Mar 2018 #15
Rhode Island is entirely controlled by Democrats RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #18
Even Democrats can be contaminated by religion. Mariana Mar 2018 #20
Not just religion Major Nikon Mar 2018 #22
Or two Democrats hardluck Mar 2018 #19
Wow... that's fucking sad. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #21
Dems? DEMS!!!!! democratisphere Mar 2018 #26
Take it from a RI resident Scoopster Mar 2018 #27
Thanks for the inside ball hardluck Mar 2018 #31
Install filters for porn then you use them to filter anything you want to keep from the people later TeamPooka Mar 2018 #16
So blood in the streets and school house gets no action. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #23
Don't you know the sight of bare boobies makes people buy AR-15's and start shooting? Girard442 Mar 2018 #29
Its cute when tech illiterate lawmakers try to explain technology. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #24
"patently offensive material." There's a big bucket to throw anything into rurallib Mar 2018 #28
I'm a lesbian in my mid 30's - OhZone Mar 2018 #30
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
7. I agree
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:33 PM
Mar 2018

And I wish these tools would stop passing legislation on the internet when they clearly don't understand it.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
6. Who is to decide what is porn? Seeing the pron discussions on this board shows a wide difference of
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:31 PM
Mar 2018

opinion of what is porn. Some people use their "feelings" to decide for themselves and others what is porn.

The court said it can't be described but you know it when you see it.

Other people use specious arguments about what porn does to those who participate and those who consume.

Still others see society in general as the victim of porn.

I think all the above cannot be proven so I think people should lay off of porn that is legally produced.

I have been a nudist for over 30 years. My wife and I met at a nudist park. Our organization's old documentation has been labeled as porn by some courts and individuals. It had the result of the nudist magazines were no longer produced.

There was some questionable issues of the magazines and it is better that they are no longer produced but they were never porn if they had the support of the national organizations who did not want controversy.

This is the same argument good guy gun owners use, that why punish them because others shot people. I can understand that argument.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
11. Bingo.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:41 PM
Mar 2018

As I get older I'm bothered by content in movies or on TV that wouldn't have bothered me at all some years back. I sometimes have to struggle to remind myself that it's me, not that content.

Personally, I think there's far too much graphic sex and violence, but I can usually choose not to watch something. What's nice about watching at home is I can fast forward through the parts I don't like.

lpbk2713

(42,751 posts)
14. They want a piece of the action.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 12:44 AM
Mar 2018



There's money to be made and they won't let an opportunity pass them by.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
20. Even Democrats can be contaminated by religion.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 02:08 AM
Mar 2018

What else would inspire them to decide they must exert such control over people's private lives like this?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. Not just religion
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 12:26 PM
Mar 2018

There's other puritanical forces at work. If you look at the places that censor the internet like China and PRNK, religion plays no role in their motivation.

hardluck

(638 posts)
19. Or two Democrats
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:23 AM
Mar 2018
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/376840-rhode-island-legislature-considering-bill-to-put-20-fee-on-accessing

“The legislation, which two Democratic state senators introduced in the General Assembly on Thursday, would require internet service providers to digitally block sexual content or “patently offensive material.’”

Scoopster

(423 posts)
27. Take it from a RI resident
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:58 PM
Mar 2018

The RI Democratic Party is full of wannabe Liebermans who know they won't get elected here without a D next to their name.

hardluck

(638 posts)
31. Thanks for the inside ball
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 06:58 PM
Mar 2018

I'm from California so I have no clue about RI politics. I clicked on the links fully expecting the legislation to have been proposed by fundy repubs - wasn’t expecting two dems.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. So blood in the streets and school house gets no action.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 12:31 PM
Mar 2018

But adults watching other adults fucking requires immediate action.

These people are so far past rational they cannot even see the irony.

Oneironaut

(5,491 posts)
24. Its cute when tech illiterate lawmakers try to explain technology.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 12:34 PM
Mar 2018

“We’ll just put a block on the porn websites!”

Um... I hate to tell them that it’s not that easy.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
30. I'm a lesbian in my mid 30's -
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 02:24 PM
Mar 2018

And I do enjoy some porn, when I don't have a partner.

I have some odd fetish tastes. I do like regular lesbian porn and such, but I actually prefer erotic stories, and some of the stories don't even involve sex or nudity. Will they be trying to block stories too? What about a simple VPN? What about a non-RI proxy? I bet there are other things. I have some tech knowledge but I'm not like a master hacker.

Oh well.

BTW - I also dabble in writing stories, AND I chat and flirt. What If I send Nakey pix to a girlfriend? How could they block that exchange? Ha!

So stupid.

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