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Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:18 PM

GOP Says Coverage For The Uninsured Is No Longer The Priority (NPR)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/07/27/157439331/gop-says-coverage-for-the-uninsured-is-no-longer-the-priority

Ain't that a peach! They're finally being *honest* about it now though, I guess. These are IMHO some of the most interesting lines in the story (with my own commentary):

"Conservatives cannot allow themselves to be browbeaten by failing to provide the same coverage numbers as Obamacare," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, told a conference at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. "To be clear, it is a disgrace that so many American families go without health insurance coverage. But we cannot succumb to the pressure to argue on the left's terms."

If it's a "disgrace, Senator Hatch, then why are you content with allowing it to continue? Do you and your Republican colleagues have no shame?

"Cannon has long questioned the idea that expanding insurance coverage should be the holy grail of health reform.

"The idea that the government should guarantee health insurance to everybody passes as really gospel in health policy circles, without any serious consideration, without any sort of examination of why is it that we want people to have health insurance, is health insurance the best way to serve those goals, could there be lower-cost ways of achieving those goals," he said."


WTF? What else are people going to use in order to get access to health care? Barter with chickens?" Do you guys have ANY alternatives? Bueller...............Bueller...............


"People need to have the freedom not to have insurance if the marketplace is to function properly"

How does NOT being able to go to a doctor when you (or your kids) need it or go into massive debt because of an emergency make you "FREE?!"

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Reply GOP Says Coverage For The Uninsured Is No Longer The Priority (NPR) (Original post)
Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 OP
cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #1
Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #7
tanyev Jul 2012 #2
Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #16
dkf Jul 2012 #3
NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #8
Autumn Jul 2012 #4
Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #9
Turbineguy Jul 2012 #5
RagAss Jul 2012 #6
Zoeisright Jul 2012 #10
hifiguy Jul 2012 #11
Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #13
reformist2 Jul 2012 #14
hifiguy Jul 2012 #15
Fumesucker Jul 2012 #12

Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:20 PM

1. In a discussion with my Repub state rep about it when he came by

my house last week to campaign, was that the ACA was great for access, but the main problem with it is that he doesn't know how we're gonna pay for it.

I thought that was a big step, him actually admitting it helps the main problem - access to coverage.

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Response to cbdo2007 (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:26 PM

7. I'm sure that we could find ways to pay for it

Republicans find ways to pay for everything else (i.e. drug plans for big pharma, tax cuts for the wealthy, wars, etc.). Well, I guess that they really don't pay for them per se but they seem to have no problems with authorizing funding for them anyway. The only things that they seem to insist we make sure are paid for are social programs (which they desperately seek excuses to get rid of in the first place) or pretty much anything proposed by Democrats.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:22 PM

2. Huh. I don't recall it ever being a priority for them.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 01:20 AM

16. True. It wasn't

but they were always able to at least *pretend* to care. The Tea Party has forced them into essentially ripping off their masks for everybody to see- but, of course, it's pretty hard for people to really see underneath it if nobody really reports on it.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:22 PM

3. Insurance isn't necessary for Health Care...if you have single payer.

 

We shouldn't look at insurance as the holy grail either.

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Response to dkf (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:27 PM

8. Who processes the claims for Medicare then?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:23 PM

4. No Longer??? When was it ever a priority with those bastards?

Their idea for the poor and uninsured is hurry up and die.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:28 PM

9. Alan Grayson had it 100% right

To this day, I have never heard a single good refutation by the right of his essential point.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:24 PM

5. But we will will give you a coupon

good for a 15% discount on a funeral.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:25 PM

6. They get off on human suffering !

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:34 PM

10. NO ONE other than rich white men have EVER been a repuke priority.

They are lying fucking scumbags.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:37 PM

11. The point, of course, is to cull the herd,

 

beginning with the poorest and most defenseless, then taking on the working and middle classes. Modern eugenics, Repuke-style. Too many "useless eaters" out there in the opinion of the plutocracy.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:39 PM

13. If they get rid of everybody else

where will THEY be? They can't run their factories, businesses, etc. by themselves. They won't be the ones ordered into service to invade other countries? How will they be "at the top" if nobody is left on the bottom (or middle).

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:44 PM

14. They're at a logical dead end.


At least those of them that can think, that is. All reasoning points to this: more money and benefits for the poor and middle class. That means they have to pay more in taxes for the good of everyone - but they can't bear to admit it.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:44 PM

15. They don't want to get rid of everybody,

 

because without serfs there can't be any masters, and they desparately need - psychologically - serfs to piss on. My guess is that they'd be happiest with about 1/3 of the population gone and the rest, save for their retainers and "courtiers" in abject squalor.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:39 PM

12. Of course there's a lower cost way, it's called single payer.. n/t

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