How many millions of our citizens aged 18-30 have bought the

[Eliot Rosewater]

bullshit lie that both parties are so similar they are virtually the same?

I know who told them that, and they still listen to that person, so I wonder what the FRIGHTENING number is, any guesses?

[BigmanPigman]

1. The few people I know in that age group

are liberals and don't buy that BS. Most of them are in college in DC though so that isn't a good group to survey.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Gives me some hope.

[ProudLib72]

3. 42

That's always the correct answer!

Like I just posted in another thread, I had a student who turned 18 right before the election in 2016. She was intelligent and seemed fairly liberal, but she just didn't know who to vote for.

I have also run into other students 20-24 who told me they didn't vote because both parties were the same. It is extremely difficult for me not to tell them the way it is.

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. With them you cant even use the "one more seat" argument, since they think they

are both the same anyway.

Wow, big big big problem.

[Hortensis]

5. For every aware young person are others who don't

want to be. And let's face it, environment doesn't completely erase genetically linked personality traits. Something like close to half of all Americans are born naturally conservative.

Whenever you hear that fake-equalization/don't-bother-to-vote song being sung, you can be pretty sure the person is either uninvolved and determinedly negligent, naturally conservative, or possibly (in a smaller number) naturally anti-Democrat left.

As for the numbers, We do know America will have fewer uninvolved and deluded nonvoters than in 2016.

COUNTDOWN TO TAKING DEMOCRATIC CONTROL OF CONGRESS: 243 days

[Sophia4]

6. That belief has been around for a long, long time.

Huffington Post article trying to debunk it on May 25, 2011

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-herrington/theres-no-difference-betw_b_706364.html

The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference. Ralph Nader
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/ralph_nader_160181

Nader's quote is from 2011.

https://imgur.com/gallery/SmyXI

I heard it longer ago than that.

[ehrnst]

8. That turned out so well for Ralph, didn't it?

But that lie feeds the solipsism of privileged white straight men and the women who draw their identity from them.

[ehrnst]

7. That lie is used by those who stand to gain politically or financially by it.

See also Glenn Greenwald and RT television.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. And folks who post on internet message boards with agendas thinly disguised as something else.

[inwiththenew]

10. I work with a guy in his late 40s

Who says that in his personal day to day life he did not notice any real difference between Bush, Obama, and Trump.

[ehrnst]

11. Straight cis white guy, right?