Bernie Sanders on CNN right now. 8:51 PM EST

[applegrove]

[sheshe2]

1. Okay

[DURHAM D]

5. I know... thank god I get dozens of other stations. nt

[grantcart]

11. click

[OilemFirchen]

2. Elizabeth Warren on MSNBC right now. 8:54 PM EST

[applegrove]

3. What to do - what to do!

[OilemFirchen]

6. Stop using mononyms?

[applegrove]

7. Okay.

[democratisphere]

9. Some choices are easy. I'm here, not there!

[ecstatic]

4. He just said that Stormy Daniels isn't important and shouldn't be focused on, and that

if voters had known about her prior to 2016 election, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election.

Umm... if trump broke the law, he should be held accountable. Period. Uggh.

[HipChick]

8. Nothing to see here...

[EffieBlack]

10. Oh, good Lord, Bernie. Please stop.

Just stop.

[Agschmid]

25. It wouldnt have changed the outcome of the election, hes right about that.

[Cha]

38. Whether it changed the election or not..

has nothing to do with holding trump accountable NOW.

As you know.. thanks

[R B Garr]

54. Yeah, how odd he always errs on the side of Hillary

losing when all the actual facts emerging show the opposite. She was maliciously and illegally sabotaged.

[mshasta]

12. -----so

[applegrove]

13. ?

[YOHABLO]

14. So this is a beat up Bernie thread? All because he challenged Hillary and remains an independent?

He has a right to an opinion. And, he's probably right. This ''Stormy Daniels" scandal wouldn't have had any influence on Trump voters. How many women have come forward about Trumps sexual advances? We knew Trump was a pathetic slob of a human being before he ran for President.

[applegrove]

15. I did the OP as a favour for Bernie Sanders lovers. Did not mean to start

anything.

[ecstatic]

16. If you're referring to my post which summarized his comments on the matter... it's not beating him

up. I don't give 2 shits about Stormy or trump's dick, but if trump broke campaign finance laws, he should be held responsible. I don't agree with giving him a pass. That's called enabling and normalizing. And yes, all the passes Bernie seems to give trump are frustrating as fuck to a lot of people, especially considering the damage trump is doing to this country!

[KPN]

27. Don't think she was referring to your post,

but whatever.

[Cha]

37. Well said, ecstatic.. trump should be held

responsible.

[applegrove]

23. So let me get this straight.... we can never post about Bernie? Would it

not be more trolling to not allow any Bernie posts to keep the wounds open come the 2018 or 2020 elections? I mean I am a Hillary supporter and posted Bernie was on the tv to be kind to our Bernie Sanders loving Duers. Because I am not afraid. We can talk about him really we can. You are the only one causing disruption.

[left-of-center2012]

26. It failed

[herding cats]

28. What failed?

[left-of-center2012]

31. What failed?

John's first marriage
Lynne's first marriage
John and Lynnne's marriage
New Coke
The Titanic
Trump's first two marriages
The Hindenburg blimp

[herding cats]

32. I meant in context to your reply to applegrove.

But, you knew that.

On edit: I suspect it's the reason I saw this post and thread.

[emulatorloo]

39. A word to the wise, you best develop a thicker skin. No free pass for Bernie in 2020 like 2016

Bernie primary supporter 2016 here. You need to get used to the fact he is going to have to answer hard questions this time about policy implementation and various gaffes he’s made (blaming Clinton for not stopping Russian Bots from supporting his campaign.). His apparent lack of financial transparency, his dark money superpac, the apparent nepotism in using our donations to pay Jane, Carolina, and Levi salaries on his campaign.

It isn’t just going to come from DU’ers. So let’s stop smearing folks with legit questions as “haters”. I doubt Biden or other competitors are going to be as nice to Bernie as HRC was. There is not going to be a Sanders coronation and the sooner you face the fact you are going to have the help Bernie earn votes the better.

[herding cats]

51. That's some really sage things you just said.

I'm not trying to be embroiled in this particular bit of drama just yet, but I hope when it's mainstream everyone thinks like you right now. You get the depth of the complexities... there's not going to be an easy path without every flaw being examined and reexamined under a microscope.

Kneejerking and alerting on people just because they don't agree with you is childish. Reality is things are about to get serious, and ugly and if you can't manage that you're not helping.

[Tipperary]

55. Good reply. Interesting that the poster self-deleted most of their comments.

[MrsCoffee]

57. Thank you.

[betsuni]

59. +1

[Cha]

60. Excellent advice!

[pnwmom]

24. Not remained. Left the Democrats and returned to be an Independent. nt

[Tavarious Jackson]

29. Show me where this is a beat up Bernie thread? nt

[emulatorloo]

40. Some folks are super defensive, merely mention Bernies name and they claim it is an attack

[Kirk Lover]

35. It's about how this Stormy was paid...from where and by whom. Nobody is buying the Cohen

went out all on his own and paid off this woman privately without consulting his client. It's about that...not him screwing her..of course that wouldn't of mattered to the deplorables. Nothing does.

[Cha]

36. Of course, he has a right to an opinion..

and anyone else has a right to disagree.

[NCTraveler]

56. "All because he challenged Hillary and remains an independent?"

Yeah, that's it.

[applegrove]

18. I just thought some would want to see his take.

[left-of-center2012]

20. Uh huh

[applegrove]

21. So we can never post about Bernie Sanders. Good to know.

[Cha]

34. Tell BS to stay off the tv then.. if you don't want his

opinion discussed.

[left-of-center2012]

42. Good one !

Love your humor !

[Cha]

47. Right.. there's no way he'd stay off the tv

with his latest opinion

[emulatorloo]

43. This one appears to think there should be a coronation in 2020.

Ironic isn’t it?

It will be a very competitive primary I think. Candidates will be required to present concrete policy and explain stupid shit they have said (blaming other Dems for not stopping bots from supporting Jeff Weaver’s operation in 2016 for example). It is not just “evil DU haters” who are going to ask hard questions. Votes must be earned and suggestions that any candidates are infallible/not subject to questioning will be met with the derision such suggestions deserve.

[Cha]

46. Yes, candidates will be Thoroughly

VETTED. Looking Forward.

There will be so much to explain!

Also looking forward to a Democratic President!

[mvd]

49. I agree that there should be an open primary

Bernie is old, but personally I like him the most right now. I would like to see a younger progressive in his mold. His son has the good ideas but does not seem to have the temperament. Plenty of time to develop good candidates.

[MrsCoffee]

58. His son does not have good ideas.

Lets see, he sides with Dana Loesch, the NRA and confederate flag worshippers. He pulls out the long knives for Democrats while he pats Trump on the back.

He is absolutely unhinged on Twitter. Not an ounce of leadership in him.

[mvd]

61. He does get weird sometimes, but many of his ideas are like Bernie's

We don't need another one who attacks people like Trump does though. I think he should stick to local politics the way he is.

[R B Garr]

53. You are exactly correct, and not to mention Tad Devine

and his connections to Manafort — IOW, current news. This performance today is just another reminder of how he avoids the current news questions presented to favor his own self-selected topics. But, I doubt he makes it past the tax return questions. Doubtful he will be viable.

[emulatorloo]

41. So defensive. Sad

[ecstatic]

30. You're being ridiculous. He appeared on TV and people discussed it

Get over it. If he doesn't want to be discussed, he can retire or at least stop going on TV. You're causing far more division than the OP or any comments in the thread.

[applegrove]

33. Thank you.

[emulatorloo]

44. Well said. Thanks

[mvd]

48. Thanks for the thread. Unfortunately missed him

I did see Warren and appreciated her comments on the bank giveaway bill.

[applegrove]

50. Bernie talked about that too but it was earlier as i was starting the OP. He's

not happy with Democrats on their caving.

[mvd]

52. Yeah it is disappointing that these Democrats suddenly..

disregard the CBO. If they showed they were for all working people (focusing on the white working class only is misguided - there are working people of all races of course) and the middle class, that would help even in red states.

[Cha]

62. Eugene Robinson says: Stormy beat Trump at his own game:

"The Daniels affair is of more than just prurient interest: It would appear that Trump may have violated federal campaign law by failing to disclose the payment on his reporting forms."

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