Louise Mensch from 10 months ago now being slowly corroborated

[triron]

Link to tweet

Link: https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[Me.]

1. Well, Well Well

[Wwcd]

2. And they called her a troll, a traitor, a kook, a fraud.

Makes you wonder why they so intensly wanted her silenced, when so much of her writing is now revealed as the truth.

Shame on them all.

[melman]

12. Alternatively

One might wonder about those who so aggressively defend this right-wing huckster.

[mchill]

3. Yeah well, she's pretty ? for blocking normal people

[sarah FAILIN]

9. She blocked me

I said something to her that I thought was helpful but she decided I was a bot since I had no friends or posts. I really don't do twitter, I just made one to follow the Trump stories. She was blocking lots of people, but I understand why. I just made another page, lol.

[mchill]

22. That's my story too

[pangaia]

4. I read a few of her posts. I don;t see any dates anywhere..

not for her blog entries or for any of the 'events' she mentions.

Am I just missing them? Just curious..

[onenote]

5. I have a bridge to sell you if you think there is a sealed indictment against Trump in EDVA.

And particularly if you think there has been such an indictment for nearly a year -- predating most of the information that Mueller has obtained.

[Wwcd]

7. Its really not a stretch to think a career criminal mobster like Trump wasn't being watched pre 2016

"I can think of several ways in which a sealed indictment from more than 1yr ago in EDVA would be possible. "

Appears Louise really IS correct.
Thanks

[onenote]

10. There was so much wrong in Mensch's May 2017 article it's hard to know where to begin.

First, she claims that the indictment was sought by the FISC. The FISC doesn't seek indictments. It doesn't do anything but issue subpoenas pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The FISA court did issue subpoenas relating to Carter Page, et al. But that would have nothing to do with a RICO claim against Trump.

Second, if the indictment grew out of RICO charges that Schneiderman originally was bringing in NY, why isn't there a RICO charge against Manafort, Gates, or any of the other folks indicted by Mueller?

Third, an indictment issued by a Grand Jury in the EDVA would have been presented by the US Attorney for that District who was Dana Boente at that time. Boente, the career prosecutor who was named acting Attorney General by Trump after Trump fired Sally Yates on January 30, 2017. He remained acting attorney general until Sessions was confirmed and as an acting deputy attorney general until late April 2017. This timeline is important because the type of criminal case that allegedly formed the basis of the indictment (RICO) typically involves the presentation of a lot of evidence to the Grand Jury and the calling of live witnesses. Simply dumping a bunch of evidence compiled by Schneiderman on a Grand Jury isn't the way US Attorneys operate -- they do their own investigations and verify everything.

Fourth, not only does Mensch's story make no sense from a timeline perspective, it is simply unrealistic to think that Boente, or any other US Attorney or acting US attorney, would seek an indictment against a sitting president without going to the AG's office. So exactly who approved that decision and when? There is no timeline that makes sense.

Fifth, Mensch's article spews nonsense about an impeachment case having been begun against Trump last May. Apparently she thinks a member of Congress giving a speech is some sort of official start to impeachment. If that's the case, impeachment cases have been started against virtually every president during my lifetime.

So yes, there have been indictments (against Gates and Manafort) handed down in the EDVA. In October, not May. And then again more recently. And those indictments don't mention or seem to implicate Trump in any RICO like activity.

[Lee-Lee]

11. Exactly. The people trying to claim now that she was right are ignoring so much

Her claims were just not grounded in reality or anything but wild guesses.

Because something kinda, sorta like one of her guesses but wrong in most specific details is playing out a year later doesn’t mean she was “right”. It means she guessed one part kinda right.

Remember her saying that the Supreme Court Marshall had delivered a notice of the start of impeachment by the Supreme Court?

[Wwcd]

26. "Not grounded in reality"..? And MSM Is?

They were key drivers of the 2016 reality TV election show ffs.
"Media & Money" created more of a fraud on this country & reaped more profits than any independent blogger ever could have dreamed of.

24/7 Trump Election Reality Show.
Did you not see it?

[Lee-Lee]

37. I dont know why you seem fixed on comparing here to the MSM in her defense

Newsflash- this isn’t an either/or game where if the MSM if wrong then she must be right or vice versa.

Her bullshit stands on its own. It is no less nor no more bullshit because the “MSM” does anything or nothing.

Her reporting of the Supreme Court starting impeachment and sending the Marshall of the Supreme Court to tell Trump was not just 100% bullsit that she made up, but it was wacky bullsht made up by someone who doesn’t even grasp our government and how it works as well as a middle school civics student should.

Her posting nonsense like that shows she has no creibility.

[Atticus]

23. Thank you for posting the type of response I did not have the patience to create! nt

[onenote]

32. One word that destroys the claim there is a sealed indictment v. Trump in the EDVA

Venue.

[onenote]

38. There has to be a nexus between the alleged criminal activity and the district where the indictment

is brought.

This was highlighted in the most recent Gates and Manafort indictments brought in the EDVA. At that time, Mueller acknowledged that the venue did not exist for certain charges previously brought in DC; Gates agreed to waive his objections to venue, which then allowed the EDVA indictment to be dismissed but the case is proceeding against Manafort in EDVA because he wouldn't waive his objections to the case being brought in DC. https://lawfareblog.com/whats-new-paul-manafort-and-rick-gates-indictment

The sealed indictment against Trump that Mensch claims is sitting in the EDVA allegedly is based on evidence gathered by the New York AG before Trump became president. You can't just take evidence of criminal wrongdoing in New York (or even Washington DC) and wander into the Eastern District of Virginia and indict someone for it.

Mensch's knows mostly nothing about everything and everything about nothing.

[Egnever]

35. Thanks for writing that up

[dewsgirl]

8. I really try to stay out of the squabbling within the group

Of people that believe/don't believe Louise Mensch, Claude Taylor, Countercheckist, John Schneider, Puesto Loco, etc....I could go on.
I have followed them, since before the inauguration. My opinion is, that they have been correct to many times, for it to be what many on here and Twitter believe, "A broken clock is correct twice a day", "They are throwing all this speculation at the wall to see what sticks", "They are hired to sew confusion and chaos amongst the Resistance", again, I could go on.
IMO in the beginning of this disaster, the info they were putting out there, did seem far fetched almost like fan fiction. Then things started to be confirmed, many wrote this off as luck or mere coincidence. They seem to have at least some kind of insider info and are months and months ahead of MSM, in many cases.

(I have similar feelings about Palmer Report, may as well just put that out there, while I'm speaking my feelings on subjects I usually avoid)
Lastly, the Trump Org. rumors of human/sex trafficking stories from within this group, seemed to far fetched to be possible, but now seem far more likely than they did last summer.

This has been much longer than intended, just thought I would put my two cents out there.
Flame away.

[Wwcd]

13. Who hired them? I have to wonder who hired the group that consistantly works so hard at

discrediting that particular group.
We know there have been many attack accts linked back to RU accts, those who are actually paid, who desperately try to silence & discredit them.

So I have to wonder who would be on the same side as those bot accts & why?

Weird isn't it.

Guess we'll know the truth of who was right about their reports & who was not whem Mueller is finished.


After the horrifying bias of the 2016 campaign, why is it so difficult to understand the reason people lost faith in MSM & sought information elsewhere.
MEDIA & MONEY gave us 24/7 Trump TV..

I've never ever read a thing from this group that isn't consistently advocating against Trump, Putin and the global criminal mob budiness..

May be more should have been listening to these people instead of counting on MSM.
Trump was shoved in our faces, dressed up & sounding like a pro.
The kissing of Trump by our purchased MSM to the day of the election was the biggest fraud of all.

And its those like Mensch, Taylor, Tea Pain, Countercheckist etc who are called bull sh**?!

The hypocrisy of such biased claims against them sounds exactly like the pile ons & fratting of the Democratic Party thru those election days of 2015/16.

Thanks but I'll continue to get my news from anyone but MSM, the 2016 Trump TV reality show.

As for someone getting paid, well I would bet MSM profitted way more by their 24/7 Trump TV election bias than this bunch of independent bloggers.

[mythology]

17. I don't need to be hired to not believe bullshit

I do it for fun. Mensch is an idiot and nothing so far has suggested otherwise.

[Wwcd]

19. Well you keep putting your faith in MSM who stumped for Trump non stop,

I'll look to other sources.

You'd really have to have been a reader of Mensch, Tea Pain, Schindler, Garland & the others for your claim against them to be even taken serious.

I'm betting you have not.
Enjoy your day.

[Atticus]

24. If you are so into reading speculative fiction, there are much better writers. nt

[Wwcd]

25. Hey, no better speculative reality show writers than good old MSM/2015/16

Made for TV & all the cash the could stash as fast as they could before the clock ran down & the show switched from the reality election of the US President to porn stars & nukes.

They created this shithole TV show that our country is forced to live with.
We are all now forced into a role in the MSM Reality Show. And MSM profits continue to soar as they keep the drama going for all the players.

Have fun staring at the TV as MSM continues to bring the daily drama we can't get enough of.!

[shanny]

29. ...

[Wwcd]

27. And MSM was just giving the "honest" news in 2016?

They created the Trump reality show.

They were the money behind the writers of that show. Boy for a political group that hammers away at the evils of oligarchy, how'd MSM get so missed.
Media made more money on the 2016 scripted show than they could ever have imagined.

And its been the independent bloggers who have consistantly told the real reality of America under Putin's rule.

While MSM just couldn't part with their unbelievable good fortune long enough to stop the Trump Show & give us the truth of what we were walking into, as we couldn't keep our eyes off the TeeVee drama of Trump's Reality Show.

"MONEY & MEDIA" won the day..

[kcr]

21. Though I generally fall mostly on one side of this one, I usually stay out because

It's a little amusing to watch the people who get really involved proclaim they never fall for this bullshit! Then watch them fall hook line and sinker for some bullshit somewhere else. We all have our blind spots.

[Wwcd]

30. Lol. That is the silly truth of it all isn"t it.

Thanks

[NCTraveler]

14. Something uncorroborated is being used as reference to claim corroboration?

This is very unique. I think it's the first time I have ever seen this.

[Wwcd]

15. MSM used this method 24/7 throughout 2015/16

And MSM is the go to bastian of believable reporting?

Who ya gonna believe?
24/7 Trump promo by MSM pre election or the indy bloggers who have never failed in outing the Putin coup on the USA.

Hmmmm lets see...
I 'll take the indy bloggers who called this what it was long before MSM's multi million $$$ payday for Trump shifted to "oopsie..our bad" once he was seated & crapping all over our nation.

[NCTraveler]

18. "Who ya gonna believe? "

Factual reporting and my own eyes. My willingness to believe has not expanded due to the flaws of the MSM.

There has actually been a lot of great and reliable reporting over the last two years. Really good reporting.

Making people believe the truth they are seeing and reading as false is Trumps game.

[Wwcd]

20. There was scant factual reporting in 2015/16 by MSM.

That includes RT . Plenty put their faith in RT also.
RT, Putin's News Media

Whatever. Mueller will be the proof that this group of indy bloggers were more correct from the beginning than the RW/Ru purchased MSM.

I'm sticking with the truth in its raw unsanitized form.
Thanks anyway.

[Whiskeytide]

16. I really don't get the "I love ...

... Mensch" crowd v the "I hate Mensch" crowd. Why does it have to be one or the other?

It seems simple to me. She is what she is - but people tend to want to make more or less of that.

She has an agenda. So does Taylor and the rest. Those agendas sometimes align with anti-Trump agendas, and that sounds good to us. Sometimes their agendas don't align, and that seems bad to us.

She has some sources. Some of them appear, at times, to be pretty good sources. Sometimes her sources appear to be terrible. That could be because she's listening to some conspiracy minded whack-jobs. It could be because she makes shit up at times to fill in gaps. It could also be because the information is coming to her sources - and then to her - second, third or fourth hand, and gets garbled, confused or exaggerated. It's probably some of all three.

She doesn't have a good grasp of the US legal system, and apparently has not bothered to cultivate a source that does. That makes her look inept and legitimately cast some doubt on everything she says - but doesn't necessarily mean she's always wrong - or entirely wrong - on the underlying concept of her posts.

She's a blogger. Not a journalist. We have often heard, over the last year and a half, that established news services will publish a story - and reveal that they had some information on the content months earlier, but needed time to corroborate it before going to print. Mensch doesn't have such restraints - she spits out what she's heard without worrying about journalistic norms. She doesn't really have to as a blogger. But that kind of unfiltered process encourages mistakes, and sometimes makes her look like a kook. It doesn't mean she IS a kook, or perhaps she's like a lot of people - part kook, part lucky, and part on target.

To me, she and Taylor are like the town gossips. Often exaggerating stories and getting facts wrong. Going for the salacious angle or the most shocking take. Filling in info gaps with speculation and sensational conclusions. Seeking and relishing the drama. But - every now and then - the town gossip really is a good source of what's going on under the surface. It's not a "broken clock" scenario - its that almost invariably, somewhere in all the gossip, some actual truth tends to slosh around.

[Wwcd]

28. The town gossips? C'mon..Good Old MSM could out gossip any of the bloggers.

From Nukes to Porn Stars...who does it better, 24/7 before whiplashing on to the Next Reality Show drama of the day.
They'll keep your head spining while Trump destroys your country.
MSM relied on their viewers penchant for nothing but gossip to make their incredulous fortunes while they could.

[Egnever]

34. Whataboutism does not correlate to truth.

Yet that seems to be your canned defense.

TV news is garbage in general but there is a ton of great reporting in print. Maybe pick up a paper some time?

[Wwcd]

36. HaaaHa!

You know what's really weird, I keep having to give the SAME canned response to the SAME canned statements. Over & Over.

Maybe some people should actually read these bloggers writings & know what they're talking about before making a "canned criticism" based on group think.

I will defend this group against TV MSM any day.

MONEY & MEDIA. Trump 24/7 "Presidential" Reality TV Show.
You go right ahead & defend that multi billion $$ oligarchy.



Have a fun day