HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » BTRTN: What Does Pence Kn...

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:18 AM

BTRTN: What Does Pence Know, and When Did He Know It?

Born To Run The Numbers on a question that isn't getting much ink: if Mueller has an open-and-shut case on Trump, can Mike Pence avoid the debris field? And what does that mean for the line of succession?

http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2018/03/what-does-pence-know-and-when-did-he.html

Excerpts: "If, indeed, it is discovered that Mike Pence was present during a discussion that is proffered as evidence of obstruction of justice, how can he not be impeached as well, simultaneously? If Mike Pence, the second most senior officer of government, was in any way exposed to an act of obstruction and said and did nothing about it, he is essentially a party to the cover-up. There is no such thing as 'only obstructing justice a tiny little bit.' You are innocent, or you are guilty...
Perhaps the most interesting tidbit about Mike Pence is that he was actually one of the people who was told to 'clear the room' – along with the far more publicized hall loiterer, Jeff Sessions – while Donald Trump asked only Comey to stay inside the Oval Office for the now famous February 14, 2017 meeting. It was after Sessions, Pence, and four other senior officials were asked to clear the room that Trump allegedly asked Comey if he could 'let go' of the investigation into Flynn. Are we to believe that when Trump asked for that private time that neither Sessions nor Pence knew why Trump excluded them from the conversation? Are we expected to assume that once Comey emerged from the meeting that Pence and Sessions had no discussion about the Comey meeting with the President? When Pence finally heard Comey’s account of the meeting in Congressional testimony, are we to assume that Pence never asked Trump to give his account of the meeting?"

4 replies, 888 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 4 replies Author Time Post
Reply BTRTN: What Does Pence Know, and When Did He Know It? (Original post)
reggieandlee Mar 2018 OP
BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #1
N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2018 #2
reggieandlee Mar 2018 #4
onecaliberal Mar 2018 #3

Response to reggieandlee (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:28 AM

1. Didn't he lie about the firing of Flynn too?

Is that a crime or not?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to reggieandlee (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:31 AM

2. And Mcconnell and Ryan

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:12 PM

4. McConnell and Ryan

Thanks for you comment. It is hard to lump McConnell and Ryan in the exact same bucket as Pence. The fundamental issue with Pence is that he was inside the executive branch throughout the Trump administration, and supposedly one of the inner circle of trusted advisors to the President. If he was aware of collusion or obstruction and failed to do anything about it, he would seem to be, at minimum, open to a charge of obstruction, or dereliction of his sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution. McConnell and Ryan are amoral enablers, Pence may actually have been involved in impeachable offenses. Mueller can't be satisfied to have merely answered questions about Trump. He must simultaneously implicate or clear Pence.
Thanks for the comment.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to reggieandlee (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:58 AM

3. Hes definitely nowhere to be seen.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread