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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:14 AM Mar 2018

Trump: "Highly trained expert teachers will be allowed to conceal carry, subject to State Law"

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Very strong improvement and strengthening of background checks will be fully backed by White House. Legislation moving forward. Bump Stocks will soon be out. Highly trained expert teachers will be allowed to conceal carry, subject to State Law. Armed guards OK, deterrent!.......

6:15 AM - 12 Mar 2018


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doc03

(35,295 posts)
2. Everything results in more gun sales. Guess what, you know
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:18 AM
Mar 2018

how people get firearms training? The NRA training course of course and they will be encouraged to join the NRA by the instructor!


leftyladyfrommo

(18,864 posts)
3. Puttting more guns in schools helps the situation how?
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:20 AM
Mar 2018

It is supposed to scare off potential shooters who are most probably already suicidal?

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
6. Trump thinks gunmen will be too scared to enter a school with armed people
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:25 AM
Mar 2018

even though the Parkland school had an armed officer and it doesn't seem to have deterred the shooter one whit...

leftyladyfrommo

(18,864 posts)
8. This whole thing is just plain crazy.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:31 AM
Mar 2018

What. We dress our kids in Kevlar backpacks and Kevlar vests. We drive them right up to the front door and have an armed guard cover for them as they run 20 feet to the bullet proof door. Then they get searched for weapons in a bullet proof room. And then they are allowed into their school were there are more armed guards and armed teachers.

Then children enter bullet proof safe rooms that lock from the inside. While armed guards patrol the hallways. And that is how they are supposed to learn?

This is what our society has become?

I lived through the Commie scare of the 60's. We had bomb drills. We wore dog tags. I had nightmares for years. I used to dream about atom bombs dropping from the sky - hoards of bombs all dropping at once. And me, a little kid, trying desperately to find someplace safe.

I don't want that for our children.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
10. We hid under our desks
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:21 AM
Mar 2018

for fear of bombs. Today's kids are hiding under their desks from real bullets.

 

Barn Owl

(65 posts)
9. Barron has a full compliment
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:06 AM
Mar 2018

Of Secret Service Agents armed not only with semi automatic weapons but real machine guns.

The school that any presidents child goes to is the most heavily armed school in the country. We are not only talking about the child's personnel armed detail but also snipers and a SRT team moments away.

In this case no armed teachers would be required. The school can and would be stormed in a moment's notice if anything was to remotely raise a red flag.

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
5. LOL at the "highly trained" part...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:24 AM
Mar 2018

Teachers already have a lot of stuff they need to do each day outside of class. There is no time to give them sufficient training to make them anything near anyone of normal intelligence would consider "highly trained" in guns and responding to emergencies...

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
7. Too bad more money is not being paid to "highly train" people to become "experts"
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:26 AM
Mar 2018

in the subject matter they are supposed to teach and also paying them enough that they will want to remain in the field. Teachers are unsung heroes. Great teachers are a great gift to society. It's too bad they are taken for granted by so many, so much of the time.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
12. The Very Idea Paints A Target On The Teachers
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:53 AM
Mar 2018

Violent nutjob comes into school with high power, high volume weapon, and first take out every adult he sees (yeah i said, he; when a young woman does it i will adjust my thinking on this) and "deterrent" gone! I can just see the number of teachers who want to come forward knowing they are targets and are making all the rest targets whether they're packing heat or not.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
13. Hopefully they will use the Texas model of designated secret teacher Marshalls.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:55 AM
Mar 2018

From Politico. "How Texas is a model for Trump's gun-toting teachers"
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/armed-teachers-texas-trump-362397

""Marshals go through a series of background checks and psychological evaluations and undergo the same active shooter training as police — an 80-hour program created by the same state agency that enforces standards for law enforcement. And they do that every two years.

The full process cost between $5,000 and $7,000 per marshal.
(snip)
The marshals are technically a new class of police officer who are deputized only in an active shooting situation. They are not legally authorized to break up fights, for instance. If students are around, they have to keep their guns in a lockbox. They can only use frangible ammo, which breaks apart upon impact — theoretically stopping bullets from blasting into other classrooms.

Because of the anonymity required, there aren’t solid numbers on the size of the program. Villalba said there are roughly 100 marshals in the state.

Some estimates put the number of districts with marshals at about 20. Villalba said he believes it’s more districts than that, but fewer than 50. Most of them are smaller, more rural districts that don’t have their own police forces, and in some cases are far from law enforcement. ""

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