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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:59 PM Mar 2018

Would you prefer that Trump's dose of Karma comes via Robert Mueller or Stormy Daniels?

I'm probably with many of you on this...I don't care, as long as Karma prevails.

With Mueller, it's stone-cold legal issues.

With Daniels, there's an added layer of public humiliation that will become his legacy.

And yes, there's no reason why it can't be both.

Your thoughts?

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Would you prefer that Trump's dose of Karma comes via Robert Mueller or Stormy Daniels? (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2018 OP
I prefer it comes via the VOTERS!!!!! maxrandb Mar 2018 #1
That would be the ultimate vindication GusBob Mar 2018 #7
This *100000000000000!!!! Initech Mar 2018 #11
He probably already hase a dose of something from Stormy, so I will go with Mr. Mueller dameatball Mar 2018 #2
Beat me to that one. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #10
Whichever is faster! chuckstevens Mar 2018 #3
Mueller and an orange jumpsuit. onecaliberal Mar 2018 #4
neither GusBob Mar 2018 #5
Whatever takes him down soonest and most decisively. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #6
A trifecta. A Democratic victory in PA, irrefutable evidence from Stormy, and then Mueller strikes Siwsan Mar 2018 #8
It looks like that first thing is going to happen! Initech Mar 2018 #12
And if it does, I'll WOOP!!!! so loud it will scare the cats! Siwsan Mar 2018 #15
Mueller with Stormy piling on. Sneederbunk Mar 2018 #9
Neither are bringing him down. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #13
Mueller because he will be dealing with issues where impeachment might actually happen karynnj Mar 2018 #14
Robert Mueller. Stormy Daniels won't bring down the party. louis-t Mar 2018 #16
Here you go. Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #17
From any source, whatever it takes dalton99a Mar 2018 #18
I vote for BOTH! MineralMan Mar 2018 #19
Yes. gibraltar72 Mar 2018 #20
If "Yes" Is Truly An Acceptable Answer. . . ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #21

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
7. That would be the ultimate vindication
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:07 PM
Mar 2018

he would not be able to face that down

the other stuff he can whine about, or even dispute

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
6. Whatever takes him down soonest and most decisively.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:07 PM
Mar 2018

Stormy's scandal can come fastest (probably almost as fast as .45 himself, meow), but Mueller would be the biggest and strongest stake through the heart of his blighted administration.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
8. A trifecta. A Democratic victory in PA, irrefutable evidence from Stormy, and then Mueller strikes
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:07 PM
Mar 2018

Winning in PA will be a major humiliation, for trump*. I suspect the Stormy issue will be more of a public humiliation for Melania, so let's add that she's had enough and leaves, after a few choice revelations of her own. Then the Mueller storm can hit.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. Neither are bringing him down.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:14 PM
Mar 2018

Only the voters or a coronary are bringing him down.

There is absolutely nothing that will get the republicans to impeach and convict.

Like Caesar crossing the Rubicon with him Army, they have passed the point of no return.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
14. Mueller because he will be dealing with issues where impeachment might actually happen
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:18 PM
Mar 2018

Here are some of the possibilities:

Mueller ends his investigation and gets an even longer list of plea deals and indictments and possibly, a narrative given to Congress to use as the basis for impeachment. Given that it is already March, it is unlikely that the House would have the time to hold the hearings needed to get a vote on impeachment AND it is really hard to see Ryan even moving in that direction. If the charges are as well documented and dealing with what is essentially working with a hostile country to win election, that alone will have a major impact on any close race in 2018 - especially if Ryan is blocking it.

OR

Mueller waits until after the election and IF we take the House, there likely would be impeachment hearings. It is then likely that he is impeached, quite possibly on a party line vote - just like Clinton. However, if 2018 is a drastic lost for the Republicans, there may be many Republicans who see writing on the wall suggesting that they do not want to be labeled as supporting Trump. If that happens (and I think it unlikely) unlike in 1998, the Senate vote might not be a party line vote. However, an impeachment on the type of issues that Mueller is investigating would cripple him for 2020.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
16. Robert Mueller. Stormy Daniels won't bring down the party.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:21 PM
Mar 2018

Treason will bring down the party for a generation or more.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
17. Here you go.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:22 PM
Mar 2018

how about a Lady Federal Judge handing out a Sentence without a Jury Trial. Now that would be Karma.

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