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Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:25 PM

Is The Stormy Story More Damaging Than We Thought?

Source: TPM

We just finished recording this weekís episode of The Josh Marshall Podcast. We had a special guest, Joan Walsh. We talked about the Stormy Danielsí story among other topics, including the 2016 election. But I wanted to flag one point we discussed in this episode that Iíve learned over recent days. What Daniels told 60 Minutes is more damaging than people may realize.

In many ways, having sex with a porn star is on-brand for Donald Trump. He spent decades playing up a reputation as a billionaire playboy. These stories seem to have stirred discord in Trumpís marriage. Theyíre hard to square with his current role as the darling of conservative evangelicals. But they play to the tough guy, dominant and hyper-masculine image he likes to portray. Heís boasted for years about his purported sexual prowess and the Access Hollywood tape and the subsequent string of accusations of various kinds of sexual misconduct confirmed his role as a sexual predator.

But Daniels apparently says something different. Iím told that in her 60 Minutes interview with Anderson Cooper Daniels suggests that Trump, how to say this, likes it when women arenít nice to him, treat him in perhaps denigrating ways.

I think that would be very much off brand for Trump. It also puts in sharper relief why he and his lawyer seem to be fighting so hard to keep Danielsí story under wraps. It also deepens my curiosity about whether CBS will have to stomach to air that part of the story.


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Reply Is The Stormy Story More Damaging Than We Thought? (Original post)
demmiblue Mar 2018 OP
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #1
demmiblue Mar 2018 #5
lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #15
brush Mar 2018 #21
certainot Mar 2018 #29
malaise Mar 2018 #2
janx Mar 2018 #3
Marie Marie Mar 2018 #28
certainot Mar 2018 #30
bettyellen Mar 2018 #4
gay texan Mar 2018 #62
dameatball Mar 2018 #6
malchickiwick Mar 2018 #7
lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #16
onecent Mar 2018 #46
Dorian Gray Mar 2018 #74
Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #8
MontanaMama Mar 2018 #9
Greybnk48 Mar 2018 #10
Canoe52 Mar 2018 #70
Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #11
dameatball Mar 2018 #12
Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #13
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #14
Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #19
radius777 Mar 2018 #67
erronis Mar 2018 #32
radius777 Mar 2018 #68
LonePirate Mar 2018 #17
erronis Mar 2018 #35
dameatball Mar 2018 #18
njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #20
smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #22
njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #24
safeinOhio Mar 2018 #23
njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #25
LongTomH Mar 2018 #52
demmiblue Mar 2018 #26
lunatica Mar 2018 #47
dubyadiprecession Mar 2018 #27
erronis Mar 2018 #36
Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #43
getagrip_already Mar 2018 #31
dameatball Mar 2018 #33
lindysalsagal Mar 2018 #40
LongTomH Mar 2018 #54
FakeNoose Mar 2018 #56
getagrip_already Mar 2018 #63
FakeNoose Mar 2018 #64
Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #34
dameatball Mar 2018 #37
Alpeduez21 Mar 2018 #38
poboy2 Mar 2018 #41
njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #61
bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #39
Mr.Bill Mar 2018 #42
thbobby Mar 2018 #44
FakeNoose Mar 2018 #45
Shrike47 Mar 2018 #48
not fooled Mar 2018 #72
Doodley Mar 2018 #49
dameatball Mar 2018 #50
Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #53
HootieMcBoob Mar 2018 #57
myraphilips Mar 2018 #51
NoMoreRepugs Mar 2018 #55
w100jmi Mar 2018 #58
Enoki33 Mar 2018 #59
njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #65
NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #60
bettyellen Mar 2018 #66
Nitram Mar 2018 #69
duforsure Mar 2018 #71
Upthevibe Mar 2018 #73

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:29 PM

1. well, if she is the Dominatrix, that explains a lot why he's not going after her...

CRACK THAT WHIP!

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:31 PM

5. Heh!

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:53 PM

15. Whip it good

step on his crack...

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:08 PM

21. So he likes it when Melania slaps his hand away. Probably can't wait to get home to beg her...

swat him around some more.

Hahahahahahahaha!

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:51 PM

29. it makes him feel like a kid again

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:29 PM

2. Yes! Yes! Yes!

Anyway the Con turns he implicates himself. It is delish!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:29 PM

3. OMG



WHEN is this interview due to air?

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Response to janx (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:45 PM

28. I think it is this Sunday -the 18th

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:51 PM

30. i'll bet they don't

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:30 PM

4. So, its grosser than being spanked with pics of his children?

 

Maybe he does like to be peed on, after all? Think Iíll go spread that rumor now.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:02 PM

62. He probably likes diapers

President Pampers

I mean its just a rumor

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:34 PM

6. Three reasons I think it is more dangerous for him than some previous.

1. Her "reputation" is something he cannot really besmirch, so bullying her out of the way is impossible

2. This was not a quick grope. It was ongoing with huge potential for damaging evidence to emerge.

3. Gives far greater credence to the Steele Dossier in peoples' minds.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:35 PM

7. A pic of the dotard in a ball-gag would be worthy of a Nobel Prize.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:54 PM

16. At least a Pulitzer

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:54 PM

46. LOL, can't stop thinking about this........

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 05:15 AM

74. You had to go there

and I had to picture it.

My day is ruined!!!!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:37 PM

8. You mean like this?

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:38 PM

9. My guess is that

he has a thing for pee. Whatever. All of it pales in comparison to his treason. Doesnít mean Iím not rooting for CBS to air the interview, however! If the WH is successful in quashing it, we should worry.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:39 PM

10. I wonder. Did he call her Mommy? n/t

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Response to Greybnk48 (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:13 AM

70. Pence calls his wife mother. Now that you mention it...

Penceís wife would look good in black leather with a little whip in her hand...



(First time I found a use for that smiley!)

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:46 PM

11. That's very, VERY, common

Men AND women in positions of power want to surrender some of that when it comes to sex. To be free of the shackles of all that it entails, to be dominated and told what to do.

Now, I'm not speaking specifically of Trump here, but just people in positions of power. When you have so much riding on your decisions, having that taken out of the picture is extremely freeing. It's one reason you see many partners in marriage that have so many responsibilities play to that as well when in the bedroom. Giving over control, freeing yourself from what you're responsible for day in and day out.

But I'm sure the highly judgmental DU membership will play it for all its worth. The porn threads in the past have certainly made clear there's a holier than though strain that's dominant here.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:50 PM

12. Not me! Bring on the dirt. At least two scoops!

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Response to dameatball (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:52 PM

13. Heh. In some past conversations, the very idea of spanking during sex

was viewed as violence against women. And a lot cosigned onto that belief. It at least didn't get as bad as the small strain that was talking a few years ago about how kissing is violence against women when consensual.

I do enjoy those threads just to see what kind of crazy talk percolates among those that I'm generally aligned with politically.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:52 PM

14. I think Stormy is respected here AND Trump has NOT been excoriated for his sexual behaviors, but

his hypocrisy and more importantly, the fact this behavior has left him open (and all of us, as a result) to BLACKMAIL.

Judgmental? "Holier than though"? REALLY? You totally miss the point

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:57 PM

19. I wasn't specifying this thread; talking about past threads about porn in general

And you can see in some recent threads some real derision towards Daniels because of her profession. There's a general looking down upon any sex worker in these parts.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:36 PM

67. Agree, the left comes at it from a different angle but

can be just as moralistic about sex-work/porn/etc as the religious right.

None of which helps Dems, which needs young people and PoC to win, and doesn't do well with these groups when it is seen as square/stuffy/judgemental.

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were seen as cool and easy going, which attracted youth, PoC, and other marginalized groups who could relate to that kind of "cool uncle" personality.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:00 PM

32. I agree with you. Thank you for reinforcing your points.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:52 PM

68. Human sexuality is complicated

and most people (not just powerful people) have kinks/fetishes/preferences.. as reflected in sexual entertainment such as porn, erotica, romance novels, etc. What is taboo or forbidden is often hot.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:57 PM

17. Will the deplorables start calling 45 a beta or a cuck now?

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:03 PM

35. I don't know what either of those mean, but no - "they" have bought in (or have been bought).

I'm not even sure what anyone means by "deplorables" or means by the <quote>30% voters</quote> that will support the dump not matter.

I'm not sure it makes much difference since the media and election machinery has been rigged.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:57 PM

18. One other thing.

It just occurred to me that, at this time, Stormy is the one person that everyone in the country is talking about as much as they are talking about Trump. Must drive him nuts. In a way it is cathartic and I think there are more than just a few conservatives out there who are privately getting a kick out of it. Besides, now they can tell their wives "See, spanking me is really not that weird."

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:04 PM

20. It doesn't get any better than this

OMG,he is not the big Macho lady's man he wants everybody to believe he is.
He prefers to be submissive to a Dominatrix actually humiliated.
The man behind the curtain is finally revealed.
We no longer have to wonder what Kompromat Putin has.
Bye bye Donnie

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Response to njhoneybadger (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:18 PM

22. That's what I am thinking. If she discloses all, it's going to reveal

a side of Trump that clashes bigly with his tough-guy, macho-man image and that is what bothers him the most. As it has been said before, Trump is ALL about image. In fact that is all he has because there is nothing else there. Once his carefully crafted image has been broken down, what will he have left? This is why he doesn't want his taxes released, he doesn't want people to see that he is not as rich and successful as he pretends to be.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:21 PM

24. Exactly, it's all FAKE

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:19 PM

23. Well, spank me and call me Sally.

No, really. Spank me and call me Sally.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:25 PM

25. I hope SHE doesn't have any pics spanking his big fat pimply ass

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Response to njhoneybadger (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:14 PM

52. I really need to get that image out of my head!!!!!

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:29 PM

26. OK, Sally.



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Response to demmiblue (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:57 PM

47. LOL!

Youíre such a nice and obliging person!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:36 PM

27. Just how much more can Melania take????

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:05 PM

36. She'll "take it" until putine calls her home.

Or disposes of her.

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:36 PM

43. Depends on the pre-nup. n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:53 PM

31. well, there are photo's floating about...

Last edited Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

deteted image since it unfortunately fake.

but real ones are likely out there....

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:00 PM

33. I call BS.....the hands are too big!

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:13 PM

40. Is that photoshopped???? No WONDER he keeps saying it's all fake news!

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:16 PM

54. Aaaaaarrrgggghhhh!!!!!

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:25 PM

56. You should DELETE this - it's definitely fake

I believe we shouldn't post photos on DU unless they are marked as fake (or else it's obvious.)
The original thread on Twitter (source for this photo) does make it clear that this is fake.
The photo was "real" but Trump's face is photoshopped onto the other guy's body.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #56)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:26 PM

63. oh fudge.....

ok, Ill get rid of it. I didn't know it was fake, but frankly, there are probabbly real ones just li9ke it.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #63)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:29 PM

64. I know, sometimes it's so hard to tell

But this one is sort of obvious, especially when you see what the other posters say farther down on the thread.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:01 PM

34. Not to be negative, but unless it comes out that TRUMP has sexual attraction toward males, his base

won't care. They don't care if he "grabs 'em by the pussy," and I doubt they would care if he likes it rough or if he likes to play sub a little bit. But put him with a boy/man, and all bets are off.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:10 PM

37. I dunno.......maybe she is just gonna say she had more fun with Steve Bannon. That won't sit well.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:11 PM

38. Correct, his base doesn't like women.

Why can't they just know their place?

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:14 PM

41. The old 'live boy or dead girl' (hat tip Edwin Edwards) -nt

 

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:36 PM

61. Really, read response #22

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:12 PM

39. You mean he's a sub?

He is strange enough

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:26 PM

42. I've said this here before, and I'll say it again.

If there is video of him cutting the heads off live babies, it won't cost him one percentage point of his base.

Nothing will affect these assholes. Nothing. They are too invested at this point. They will somehow make excuses for it or rationalize it.

Cutting heads off live babies? They will say the babies were probably Muslims and would have grown up to be terrorists. Get it? That's how this is going to go.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:44 PM

44. I really don't give a shit

About how kinky trump is. Yech! I do care about illegal payoffs, perhaps to many more than Stormy. I do care about how the evangelicals (so called) justify this and twist themselves into pretzels saying Jesus forgives him for loving to be spanked by porn stars. And for adultery on his third wife.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:51 PM

45. Maybe she has a PEE tape of her own?

Wouldn't that be something!





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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:59 PM

48. I think shes going to say he couldnt get it up without some kink.

He was chasing porn actresses in hopes of restoring his manly vigor by exotic stimulation. But it rarely worked.

That would be totally opposite from the dominant, potent male picture he wants to present.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #48)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:54 PM

72. That's probably why

she made such a point of saying it was "generic" or bland, vanilla yadda yadda yadda sex--a red herring to keep people from thinking he is into kink.

If she gets to tell all...we will find out.


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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:02 PM

49. Behavior by Trump consistent with the Steele Dossier claims

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Response to Doodley (Reply #49)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:09 PM

50. I agree. I said that in posy # 6....fits like a glove. Glad I am not the only one that sees that.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #49)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:16 PM

53. And we need to understand that this idiot, this child, this liar, this traitor, this

thief, has an IQ of around 85, no education at all, no experience negotiating where he cant cheat people and get away with it and THAT is who we are sending in to negotiate with a madman with nukes.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #49)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:27 PM

57. Exactly n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:14 PM

51. disgusting

 

ughh Im going to puke.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:25 PM

55. To me, anything that causes the Dotard to lose a few % of the die-hards support is a good thing.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:27 PM

58. I suspect it was a threesome with Ivanka....nt

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:27 PM

59. Pretty much everything dotard says about himself is the

opposite of who and what he really is. Stormy Daniels ( and l do not respect her less) exposing the one major lie about himself that helps to bolster his white racist supporters has the potential to make them question others. Sex is the stimulating political selling point that may make them realize all the other fake sales pitches they have been fed by the bus loads. Anyway, it is the possibility of hope that will be more entertaining than the reality show masquerading as government.

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Response to Enoki33 (Reply #59)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:57 PM

65. So true, when he is accusing he is projecting,when it's about himself he is trying to decieve

Every freaking time

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:28 PM

60. If she says he couldn't get it up, he's finished

but the epic whining will be worth an Oscar.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #60)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:05 PM

66. And once she says they were naked together- she can pretty much describe lots of humiliation and

 

He rally canít counter it if the bones of it are believed.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:35 AM

69. I thought it was suspicious that Stormy emphasized that Trump was only into "white bread" sex,"

"nothing kinky." I read that as, "He's a Perv!"

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:59 AM

71. Absolutely,

With a lot more women out there, a lot more payoffs to be exposed, and abortions, rape, and threats , its got him worried .

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:10 AM

73. Interesting...n/t

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