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Stinky The Clown

(67,764 posts)
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:48 PM Mar 2018

Thoughts on PA-18 and Conor Lamb

Democrats were the winners tonight, no matter the actual outcome. This was a GOP win that wasn't. It IS a harbinger of the Fall.

The winner of the election has almost no consequence. A win is simply for morale and bragging rights. Not one thing will change with the effective balance of power in the House.

Connor Lamb is friendlier to gunners than other Democrats. He is pro life and mildly anti-Pelosi. He flies in the face of Democratic orthodoxy. I suspect the guns and abortion positions are genuine. I suspect the Pelosi stance is at least as much about pandering politics as about a genuine call for new leadership. While I do think Pelosi will face an uphill battle, I think she will prevail one more time. I suspect Lamb will do the right thing.

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Thoughts on PA-18 and Conor Lamb (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 OP
He's young. We need him to win. We need new blood MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #1
Bullshit GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #2
And bullshit to you too Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #3
I apologize for my response, GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #7
... Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #9
If Lamb wins pimpbot Mar 2018 #4
I completely agree. Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #5
Centrist, DLC type candidates make sense in some places YessirAtsaFact Mar 2018 #6
He will run in new PA17...and get 55% easily. scheming daemons Mar 2018 #8
Lamb has the Biden/Kaine position, radius777 Mar 2018 #10

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
2. Bullshit
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:58 PM
Mar 2018

His gun position matches our party platform- the 2nd amendment gives individuals the right to own firearms. Democrats are Americans. Many own guns. Our party supports that as a right.

He supports a woman’s right to choice. Why the fuck do you say he is pro-life?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
7. I apologize for my response,
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:40 AM
Mar 2018

I will admit my reply as a little to enthusiastic. But I saw a Democratic candidate about to take a deep red seat being marginalized or at least criticized. Emotions are running high in my house tonight.

So I do apologize for my Bullshit comment. It was unwarranted.

But to the heart of my post. I have not read he is opposed to all gun regulations and I would think he would steer clear of the subject. But our party supports the right of Americans to own guns. With reasonable restrictions. I agree strongly with the restrictions part. But also with the right to own a firearm part.

And the man supports a woman’s right to choose. How does that make him pro-life? Hell, I want pot legalized but will never use it myself because I see it a unhealthy. Am I anti-pot?

Have a nice evening. If we pull this win off it will be a good one for all of us. It will be nice to send money to a winner for a change!






Stinky The Clown

(67,764 posts)
5. I completely agree.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:05 AM
Mar 2018

I was not knocking him. In fact, I was making the case that candidates like him are what we need to take back power.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
10. Lamb has the Biden/Kaine position,
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:46 AM
Mar 2018

of being personally against abortion but politically pro-choice, on the basis of separation of church and state.

http://www.cityandstatepa.com/content/democrats-look-win-pa-18-sort-pro-life-candidate
(When informed about these statements, Lamb’s campaign offered City&State PA a new statement saying, “Lamb tells anyone who asks that he’s a Catholic who doesn’t think his personal religious beliefs should restrict a woman’s legal right to choose.”)

To Andrews, there’s no ambiguity – it’s all just good politics in the 18th.

“We’re very conservative out here, but we’re also Democrats. Our area is just very rural. Pittsburgh is like a little island in the middle of a rural area,” she said. “I’m going to say that most of the Democrats I deal with are pro-life. But many also want the ability to choose what to do. They get the wrong idea when you say you’re pro-choice.”


also:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article204751989.html
Abortion debate is over inside the Democratic party.
...
Lamb isn’t the only recent special election Democratic nominee who supported abortion rights despite running in a deeply conservative area: Doug Jones, running in Alabama, also backed a woman’s right to an abortion. Jones won that race, besting embattled Republican nominee Roy Moore.

Lamb doesn’t make his support of abortion a big part of his campaign. A Roman Catholic, he says he personally opposes abortion.

But he opposes the GOP-proposed 20-week ban on abortions and has seen his views come under attack during the special election. And in an interview, he emphasized that the country was founded on the principle of separating church and state.

“To me, that means we defend the law as it is,” he said.
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