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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsURGENT! PA election PROVES there is GOP election fraud, vote miscounting, etc. URGENT!
You dont go from a 6 point lead to nothing, you dont have a political party decide at the last minute they wont report votes by precinct and will report them all at once not showing the details, which as I understand happened last night.
It is gonna happen in November too.
Not sure what to do when one political party is willing to openly steal elections.
BTW, counting those votes from the military and so on and some absentee votes? Not done yet, stay tuned.
Anybody have EXIT POLLS we can look at?
Funtatlaguy
(10,862 posts)Lee Atwater and Karl Rove showed them the way.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)are stealing elections, on election day, flipping votes or improperly reporting the count of votes, I am saying it is absolutely happening.
Happened in the prez election.
Happened last night in PA and is GOING to happen in November and we need to figure out what the FUCK to do about it!
hueymahl
(2,447 posts)The absentee ballet counting is done - Lamb won those too.
I expect a recount, but I don't expect it to change anything.
underpants
(182,603 posts)That has been verified several times. Pollsters have to make some assumptions about reflecting demographics with their sample set and use past trends in an area's voting.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)LAS14
(13,769 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)this is the result.
Why dont people talk about this?
LAS14
(13,769 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)More out there, you see exit polls USED to be accurate until 2004, weird that, eh!
And now these same articles pointing out how wrong the exit polls were are arguing there are reasons for that, if so why not before 2004?
I think I know.
mythology
(9,527 posts)You're doing it wrong and just look foolish. You're cherry picking a single poll because it suits the story you want to believe. The average of polls had the race a statistical tie with Lamb up +2 well within the margin of error. You aren't being honest when you say Lamb was up by 6 based on one outlier poll, but don't acknowledge it was an outlier.
librechik
(30,673 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)election but are often limited to what they can do by circumstance.
Question now is how deep is the KGB or FSB, at the GOP request, in our system?
librechik
(30,673 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)One poll had Lamb up by 6 points. The RealClearPolitics and 538 average was 2 points.
Taking one poll ad absolute evidence is just utterly uninformed. Even the best poll has a 1 in 20 chance of being wrong.
Secondly exit polls in the U.S. aren't designed to detect fraud.
These claims of fraud, always supported with incorrect assumptions at best, need to stop. It's just as silly as Republicans claiming in person voter fraud is a thing.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What is the purpose of focusing on one poll only, and ignoring its margin of error?
And just a heads-up: conflating 'proof' and 'evidence' weakens your position.
"word"
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Electoral fraud is very real (in contrast to the GOP's focus on voter fraud, which is all-but-nonexistent). And I certainly wouldn't put it past the GOP, given their track record.
My suggestion re this post, however, would be to either:
1. show some proof, or
2. stop providing cover to the GOP by mimicking Trumpisms and in so doing, contributing to Putinist goals of delegitimization of our democratic process.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-wont-commit-to-accepting-election-results-if-he-loses/2016/10/19/9c9672e6-9609-11e6-bc79-af1cd3d2984b_story.html
So - I'm looking forward to your rational, calm posts containing proof.