WWII German sub in Canadian river?

[Omaha Steve]

I was in a hurry and posted this in a group I've never been to before. How I got there I have no idea. Deleted and posted here.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/07/25/WWII-German-sub-in-Canadian-river/UPI-45361343266770/#ixzz21sKTACL9

Updated July 26, 2012 at 7:44 AM


This image submitted to the CBC by Brian Corbin was taken with side-scanning sonar and shows with Mr. Corbin believes is a German U-boat. (source)

HAPPY VALLEY-GOOSE BAY, Newfoundland, July 25 (UPI) -- It hasn't been confirmed yet, but searchers believe they've found a World War II German submarine at the bottom of a Canadian river, 60 miles from the ocean.

What appears to be a German U-boat was first spotted at the bottom of the Churchill River in Labrador two years ago by searchers using sonar to locate three men who had gone over Muskrat Falls, the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. reported Wednesday.

"We were looking for something completely different, not a submarine, not a U-boat -- I mean, no one would ever believe that was possible," Brian Corbin told the CBC. "It was a great feeling when we found it."

Corbin said the object appears to be a 150-foot-long vessel.

FULL story at link.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/07/25/WWII-German-sub-in-Canadian-river/UPI-45361343266770/#ixzz21vapNnt1

[CanonRay]

1. Must be my eyes, but I can't see it

it's like looking for Jesus' face in the cornflakes...I can never make it out.

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

2. Personally I see a monster with a black cape

His head is near the top and the cape is the big black section.

[malthaussen]

11. It is hard to make out, agreed.

It's not surprising. There were several missions into Canadian waters and up the St. Lawrence, for purposes as diverse as mining, putting ashore agents and saboteurs, and picking up escaped POWs. (none of the latter worked; the only successful POW escape from Canada was via Mexico, although we can quibble about whether Leutnant Walter Manhard's escape was "successful" as well.

This boat might be U-857, which was operating in the area at the end of the war and whose fate has never been determined. No U-boat has ever been reported sunk in the Churchill river.

-- Mal

[MADem]

3. I have to be a contrarian--I think they should raise it and bury the war dead.

Juergens said the whereabouts of more than a dozen WWII U-boats may still be unknown. He said it would be "against our tradition and our naval customs" to raise the wreckage if it does prove to be a German sub.

"This site then would be declared a war grave at sea," he said.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/07/25/WWII-German-sub-in-Canadian-river/UPI-45361343266770/#ixzz21veJnmJT

It would be fascinating to find out what caused the thing to crap out in the middle of the river--and to learn if the crew was even still inside.

[malthaussen]

12. I second the contrariness.

Presumably the crew are still inside, or there would be some report on the sinking -- provided that this sonar image is, in fact, a missing U-Boat. I confess I am not the best at interpreting side-scan sonar images, but there does seem to be the ghost of a u-boat there. I would like to know how it got there.

-- Mal

[Kaleva]

19. There often isn't much to raise and bury.

[MADem]

23. They did pretty well with the Hunley!

Amazing the shape that thing was in--from the Civil War, too!

http://www.hunley.org/main_index.asp?CONTENT=EXCAVATION

When it comes to remains, even if all that is left is a tooth, the SOP is to bury that tooth with the appropriate uniform of the deceased.

[Kaleva]

21. There are still about 70,000 plus American WWII vets listed as MIA

About 8,000 Korean War vets listed as MIA.

Close to 80,000 men and women from those two wars that nobody can account for.

[MADem]

22. I think the artifact is of great interest, and one really can't have a look at it

without removing the deceased and treating their remains appropriately.

There are still service personnel from Vietnam who remain MIA, too, FWIW. We are not done there by a long shot: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57446412/vietnam-oks-wider-search-for-u.s-mia/

[leveymg]

29. You won't find any bodies. They walked away long ago, and are massing on our northern border.

[Confusious]

4. Type VIIs the most common

were 220 feet long.

[malthaussen]

13. Maybe 70 ft were broken by whatever happened.

The whole sub might not be there in detectable amounts.

-- Mal

[Confusious]

14. yea I thought that

But most are found intact.

They found an American sub in the gulf of Thailand a few years back, and it was intact.

I guess it could happen.

[malthaussen]

15. It almost looks like rocks fell on the thing and trapped it there...

... so if that was what happened, a portion could have been flattened and not show up on the sonar. Provokingly, the article does not say how far down the purported sub is -- although it can't be many fathoms, since it is on the bottom of a river -- but I'd like to at least see some divers go check it out.

-- Mal

[Berlum]

5. This is definitely Nazi sub day on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021034994

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

6. Could this be the real reason for the green light on Daisy's dock?

To warn people of the coming Germans? Perhaps, except the book is set before WWII. However I think it could still be the reason for the green light, after all my theory of the book is that Gatsby is a whale.

That's right, he is fixated on the light becasue he has to swin by it on the way to his own parties. Now, why would no one notice that Gatsby is an Orca (yes, I know they are technically dolphins) is still beyond me, but that is my theory of the deep hidden meaning and I'm sticking to it.


As to the side scan sonar image, I can't make anything out of it other than I see a monster with a big black cape. Perhaps it is an image of Gatsby.

[Vidar]

9. LOL

[Countdown_3_2_1]

7. Don't open any wooden boxes found onboard!

If you do...face melting will ensue forthwith.

[MADem]

24. Heavens to Murgatroyd!!

[Historic NY]

8. U-550 was just found off Nantucket

BOSTON — Divers have discovered a World War II-era German submarine nearly 70 years after it sank under withering U.S. attack in deep waters off Nantucket.

The U-550 was found on Monday by a seven-man group, some of whom have been searching for the lost U-boat for several years.

It was the second trip in two years to the site by the team of divers, who were led by New Jersey lawyer Joe Mazraani. He said the group used sonar to locate the wreck in deep water about 70 miles south of Nantucket. The divers photographed the U-550 and Mazraani said a return trip is planned.

In April 1944, the U-550 torpedoed an Allied gasoline tanker, but was fatally damaged by depth charges from an escort vessel. Forty-four Germans were killed and 25 aboard the tanker died.

http://www.wbur.org/2012/07/27/u-boat-found-nantucket

[Hubert Flottz]

17. Don't mess with the man in Nantucket!

No wonder Hister lost the war!

[Berlum]

30. Hister lost because ReBUBlican GrandPoppy Prescott Bush did a FAIL job as banker to the Nazis

Demonstrating irrefutably that Republican 1% Wankers can't do anything right...
Even their EEEEEVILLL shit FAILS. Eventually. Always.

[Historic NY]

26. This could even be one one the captured or surrenders U-boats..sunk later.

http://uboat.net/fates/after-dl.htm

[slackmaster]

10. Somebody needs to tell those guys the war is over

[Hubert Flottz]

16. I'll bet it's got Bush and Dick Cheney's gold in it!

The dough that was missing from Wall Street and the Pentagon. Prolly headed for Poppy's place in South America and ran hard aground.

[Kaleva]

18. Interesting! Thanks for posting.

[SidDithers]

20. CBC report here...

with more detail

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2012/07/25/nl-u-boat-labrador-discovery-725.html

Sid

[MADem]

25. Thanks--great video piece, there, too!! nt

[yourout]

27. Maybe it is the Red October.

[mnhtnbb]

28. We have one off the coast of NC that is quite popular as a dive site (SCUBA)

http://www.nc-wreckdiving.com/WRECKS/U352/U352.HTML

http://www.graveyardoftheatlantic.com/USS_Background.htm

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/07/noaa-goes-diving-uboats-north-carolina