Hillary Clinton was right: The parts of America that support Trump are stuck in the past

[DonViejo]

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CHAUNCEY DEVEGA
03.15.2018•5:00 AM

Hillary Clinton has a problem. She tells impolitic truths at inopportune times. During the 2016 presidential campaign she described a large subset of Donald Trump's supporters as being "a basket of deplorables." She was correct. Donald Trump is an authoritarian petit-fascist who is also racist, ignorant, greedy and corrupt. He may be a traitor in cahoots with Russia, and is certainly a misogynist and serial liar who brags about sexually assaulting women. Anyone who would vote for such a person is in fact deplorable. Moreover, anyone who continues to support Donald Trump after witnessing his behavior as president is deplorable in the extreme.

Over the weekend while at a conference in India, Clinton let slip another truth about Trump's voters and the 2016 presidential election. Democrats, she said, "do not do well with white men, and we don’t do well with married white women. And part of that is an identification with the Republican Party, and a sort of ongoing pressure to vote the way that your husband, your boss, your son, whoever, believes you should."

Republicans attacked Clinton's latest comments, of course, as an example of how the Democrats are supposedly "isolated," "elitist" and "out of touch." Some of her fellow Democrats piled on with complaints that Clinton is being "unhelpful" by "re-litigating" the 2016 presidential election instead of looking to the future.

These voices of protest have provided little if any evidence to disprove Hillary Clinton's central thesis. Why? Because the facts are on her side.

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https://www.salon.com/2018/03/15/hillary-clinton-was-right-the-parts-of-america-that-support-trump-are-stuck-in-the-past/

[Ninga]

1. Of course. Without question. Truth to power. Nt

[MrsCoffee]

2. She has been right about the majority of things she has ever spoken about.

Too bad so many useful idiots haven't figured that out. We could have had great things.

[Eliot Rosewater]

30. Rolling Stone talked about the issues with Bill Clinton not being the liberal they thought

he would be, Hunter S. Thompson and Jann both were somewhat disappointed.

But compared to any repub he is a great president and very liberal.

Problem is Hillary is FAR more liberal than Bill, always has been or certainly since her late 20's. She would have been one of the 3 best presidents of ALL TIME.

But many people who claim to also be liberal constantly BASHED her to the point the other guy won.

[Caliman73]

54. Part of the problem with Bill Clinton is the he was too in love with .. Bill Clinton.

He seemed to like the power and attention and while he had some good policies and did decent things, his overarching goal was to be remembered as a good, powerful president.


Hillary on the other hand, seemed always to be thinking about what was right for the most people. Sometimes that isn't popular. I think a lot of people projected a lot of Bill's identity onto her. She was power hungry, she was not trustworthy. The fact is that she has been the same person since she came up through the ranks, after she ditched the "Goldwater Girl" phase, she has been a moderate to left leaning progressive with a special emphasis on the needs of women and children. That is not a bad thing, unless you are a wealthy person or someone who wants to keep women in a subservient role in society.

Those are the people who have really gone after Hillary. They are the ones who have smeared her with every bad thing that you could heap onto a politician. Hillary played the men's game of politics and succeeded and for that she was branded with so much hate.

[MrsCoffee]

64. If you want to see someone drunk on power and in love with himself look at Trump.

Trying to trash Bill or Hillary is not a good strategy for Democrats. No need to carry right wingers water for them.

[lunamagica]

67. +1

[LisaM]

68. Well, the only president my life got markedly better under was Bill Clinton.

My circumstances improved enormously and have plateaued ever since.

I find him to have a lot of empathy (even though he was mocked for it), and no more of a narcissist than any other president, and that includes Barack Obama (note: I am not calling either one of them narcissists, but if you think Bill Clinton is, than it stands to reason that you'd think Obama is, too).

[Demsrule86]

74. I agree...and I am sick of the attacks on him.

[Ohiogal]

76. You are so right, MrsCoffee.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

3. i'm still cheering Hillary

I don't like the piling on.

She won more voters in spite of 3 decades of hate propaganda.

She won more voters in spite of a measurable, later confessed, bias in the media.

She won more voters in spite of Charlie Rose's obsession with emails and Matt Lauer's rude interruptions and attacks.

She won more voters in spite of Comey's possible violation of the Hatch act.

She won more voters in spite of 28 months of "insvestigation" right up through election day.

She won more voters in spite of rallies of demented mob hysteria highlighted by screams of, "Lock her up!".

She won more voters in spite of election "irregularities".

She won more voters in spite of a sophisticated, extensive, covert Russian 'psyops' operation.

She's a hero.

[northoftheborder]

42. thank you for these golden kernels of TRUTH

[lunamagica]

70. What a great post! Thank you, Hermit

[dalton99a]

71. +1

[Wwcd]

79. K & R & +a million

I'm bookmarking your honest & admirable post.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

86. you folks make me feel less alone

Sometimes it seems the Hillary correctors and bashers get most of the press. We need to remind them from time to time what she withstood and still got the most votes.

Oh, yeah, and she remained civil through the whole ordeal.

[Wwcd]

87. Hey Hermit, I must say that I look for your posts because of how & what you write.

Always interesting, to the point & wise, true & fair.

Thanks for your contribution my friend 🍃🕊✌🌎

[Hermit-The-Prog]

88. wow. thanks!

[Mike Nelson]

4. She's correct...

...I am happy she's still saying this... the "media" wants to hide the fact that we have what she called the deplorables. They are a minority, but they are there and should be called out.

[onetexan]

13. agree, the truth hurts but it is the truth

Hillary had the gumption to call it what it is, whether the deplorables like it or not. Just goes to show the need for an educated masses.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

19. Yup, we are just a bunch of unedumacated baboons out here in Wisconsin

Slack-jawed yokels galor.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

5. As someone who lives in Wisconsin

telling Wisconsin that they are backwards is not going to help the Dems to win the state in 2020. But, sure, rah rah Clinton.

[question everything]

16. Well said.

The question for the rest of the year, and until 2020 is do we do everything to take over Congress, including appealing to Trump voters, or do stick by "principles?"

But I am getting hoarse just trying to keep telling this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210358115

[ismnotwasm]

32. So we want to tell bigots its ok to be bigots?

Chase them in the off-chance they will vote dem?

[question everything]

55. Yes, 500 in PA met the "off chance" and voted Dem

Every vote counts, at least until we remove that enemy - really he is an enemy - from the White House. Or, at least, clip his wings.

I suspect that many who voted for Lamb would be viewed by us as bigots. We don't need to tell them it is OK, but we do not need to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This is politics, not a court of law.

[ismnotwasm]

65. Are you fucking kidding me?

Pandering to bigots is not a winning strategy and it’s not what Lamb did. You “suspecting” these bigots implies they need to be code talked that racism is ok. How will that play in areas with say, large numbers of Black voters? You can’t have it both ways, and I can’t believe we are having this conversation

[BoneyardDem]

84. Correct...and any switch votes occurred because of Trump's toxic Presidency

We Dems do not have to woo bigots...they are un-woo-able. Those Reps that are not lying, bigoted, misogynistic assholes will separate themselves from that crowd. But that cannot be counted on.

I'd say take the time and make the effort not to woo Republicans, but woo those that need a little push to understand politics, the huge role it plays in our lives, to educate those that don't live on BB's or watch MNSBC.

[NCTraveler]

35. No one wants you to get "hoarse".

You can simply back of of the hyperbole being employed attacking Clinton.

[LanternWaste]

49. I think it's simply adorable you believe had she not said what she did,

I think it's simply adorable you believe had she not said what she did, we'd have more Trump voters.

But I'm getting hoarse asking why objective evidence is never presented supporting the claim.

[NCTraveler]

33. Can you point to the quote where she told Wisconsin they are backwards?

Not that it matter. A lot about Wisconsin's voters is backwards.

Who is the governor that forward thinking state?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

75. Sure

"If you look at the map of the United States, there is all that red in the middle, places where Trump won," she said. "What that map doesn’t show you is that I won the places that own two thirds of America’s Gross Domestic product. I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole campaign, Make America Great Again, was looking backwards. You don’t like black people getting rights, you don’t like women getting jobs, you don’t want to see that Indian American succeeding more than you are, whatever that problem is, I am going to solve it."

Wisconsin went to Trump. We are a place that is "moving backward." We "don't like black people getting rights" or "don't like women getting jobs" or seeing "Indian Americans succeeding."

That's the way to win hearts in Wisconsin.

[NCTraveler]

80. Truth and education is the way to win minds.

Those who voted for Walker and Trump fit the bill.

Deplorables. Racist bigoted deplorables. I seem to know something about Wisconsin. We are much better off going for non-voters than bringing racists and bigots into the fold.

[alarimer]

62. That's the whole problem right there.

And many of the locations we are talking about are truly suffering. They've shed jobs due in part to policies enacted by both parties, but mostly to endless corporate greed.

Actually denigrating these places and people is not something politicians should ever do. It's good that she isn't running for anything and I hope she never does again, but I would say the same thing about anyone.

[MoonRiver]

6. She is totally correct.

But because she speaks the truth, some can't cope.

[stonecutter357]

7. K&R

[Freethinker65]

8. Hillary's problem was/is the noise machine that dramatically overanalyzed her every comment

Overanalyzed her every comment to twist what she said into disparaging crucial portions of the electorate. Worse comments made by her opponents about equally crucial voters seldom made the news cycle for more than a few days, then were forgotten about.

Romney's inopportune caught on tape "47%" comment comes close, as does Obama's "clinging to guns and bibles" comment.

The media has been demonizing Clinton's words since her "at home baking cookies" days, if not before. It was pretty obvious she was not against those women that chose to not have professional careers, but instead was tired of defending her choice to have a career. We know how that twisting of words and overanalyzing turned out.

Unfortunately, the alternative to all of this is to silence her, and all women who speak up. That is NOT going to happen, nor should it.

[erpowers]

9. Her Actual Quote

Her actual quote does not seem as bad as what was discussed in the media. I watched a little bit of Egberto Willie yesterday and he gave the main quote. It seemed like she was talking about the economic direction of the states and not the people of the state. She may have mentioned something about the way people thought, but it seemed like the main point was that Trump supporters want to take the country backwards economically. His supporters wanted to stick with oil and gas; her supporters wanted to move forward to renewable energy.

[Demsrule86]

10. Obama said much the same thing with the guns and religion comment...and it is true.

"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," Obama said.

[dalton99a]

20. It is patently and abundantly true.

[Demsrule86]

73. It is true.

[Eliot Rosewater]

34. I thought of that too when I saw this.

I wish I had a different rule, by the way, some Clinton hating democratic party hating posters on this board, in this thread, boy would I like to give them a piece of my mind

The one who says Hillary "ranted and railed", boy would I like to say something there, but I wont betray my rule.

[Demsrule86]

72. I don't think some get how much trouble we are in... I hope we can hang on until we take the house

and hopefully Senate which shuts down judges...we are in real danger right now from Trump and the GOP enablers.

[Initech]

11. Lying gets us nowhere. We need to call out their lies.

Trump lies so much that his lies have their own unique layers to them. If we start telling the truth we will win. It's worked so far in 43 elections, it can work for more!

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. There's a poll up now on DU that last time I checked showed

100% of us happy that Lamb just won the special election in PA. Right now it appears he won by less than 700 votes, less than a third of one percent of votes cast. Statistics also reveal that a much lower percentage of registered Republicans bothered to vote in the special election than did Democrats. A lot of Democrats were motivated by anger at Trump, Republicans it seems had much less motivating them. So a Democrat won the district.

Hillary made her comments in India over the weekend and it took a little while for reporting on them to spread. They did not seem to make the list of closing arguments made by the candidates in that race. They weren't known when Trump showed up to hold his rally in that district.

The question is, had Hillary made those comments a week earlier, would the Republicans have been able to weaponize them against Lamb directly? The outcome of his race was razor thin. Less than 700 votes, but actually it only would have taken 350 people switching their votes to make the results dead even. And while most Lamb voters were solidly in his camp, some who had voted for Trump before were conflicted until the end.

There are choices beyond saying the truth about something that is highly charged unprompted and having to lie about it. Winning an election is a lot more significant than winning a football game. In sports sometimes it is better to forfeit a game than not kneel down on principle. Lives, however, literally rest in the valence during elections. Skilled politicians are usually very careful about what they say in public for good reasons. Hillary is a skilled politician but no one plays politics perfectly. In this case I believe she didn't.

[Nasruddin]

56. Her comments

I agree with your argument here, but I can't help but note the ironical situation we are in.
The president is about as impolitic as anyone can get, but he was quite successful with it, and continues to be so with his base (one can certainly see changes at the margin).

[BoneyardDem]

85. Such a simple concept missed on almost everyone on this thread

Hillary won more votes. Is NOT Pres and is overly analyzed with every word, even while NOT running for a new office.
MEANWHILE
Trump; liar, racist, misogynistic womanizer, illiterate, juvenile name calling, crass and insulting gets to be POTUS with less votes.

Facts to be considered, Trump's base is dwindling...as evidenced by the PA18 election. Evangelicals are starting to realize the duplicity of Trump. The world consistently rolls their eyes at the failing world status of the USA. Trump has horrid PR issues. Why Dems can't seem to focus on this rather than bash Hillary making any 1st A statement is rather odd.

[question everything]

58. Excellent analysis!

And it looks as the seekers of the truth on these pages respect you for this.

But not elsewhere, here and there

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210358115

[eppur_se_muova]

14. It's worse than that -- "Things ain't what they used to be, and probably never was."

The redhat utopia is from an imagined past. The reality wasn't good for most people.

[ollie10]

15. Could anyone answer me how we are going to win in 2020....

....without getting some votes from voters who voted for Trump in 2016? without winning some states that voted for Trump in 2016?

You don't get someone to vote for you by calling them a deplorable. You don't get someone to vote for you if you call them a racist, a misogynist, an idiot.

The voters that we CAN reach are those who are scared....they were scared about the economy and their future in 2016. The true Trumpers are unreachable....but there were some who didn't like Hillary for some reason and wanted to give Trump a chance. Now these folks may be wavering......

If we hammer home on the issues of the economy, the tax cut that helped the rich and only gave them a few crumbs and health care...we can pull some of them to vote for us. If we call them an idiot, or a deplorable, or a racist....they will recoil and they won't be as likely to join us. Why would anyone expect them to?

We already have a lot of enthusiasm on our side. But it is not enough to just have the same folks vote in 2020 as in 2016....or we get the same result. We need to peel off people who didn't vote for us last time. The positively WORST way to do this is by attacking Trump and calling them deplorables.

But if it makes you feel good, and are willing to risk four more years of Trump to make you feel good, then join Hillary and rant and rave about the deplorables. It just won't win elections, that's all. Your choice.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. HRC lost the EC in some states by only a few thousand votes

and the vote was split in four ways between her and Trump and Johnson and Stein. It's doable. Trump's popularity has been in the toilet pretty much since he started. I'm sure that he's lost a few voters and I find it hard to believe that a decent Democratic Presidential candidate with a decent agenda and lack of serious Democratic Party infighting wouldn't be enough to topple Trump in 2020 (assuming he's still in office). Hopefully, people will have learned their lessons from 2016. Maybe?


Oh, and Hillary won't be running in 2020, so why does it matter so much what she said (and people will likely have forgotten these comments by 2020, if not in a few days)?

[ollie10]

25. It's not horse shoes....close doesn't count

Which solidifies my contention that we have to be running on all of our cylinders going into 2020.

You don't get someone to vote for you by insulting them.

If we haven't learned from that mistake, heaven help us

[JI7]

26. The problem was russian hack and Comey.

[ollie10]

31. There were many problems

And we would be wise to correct as many as we can instead of trying to sweep them under the rug or pretend they do not exist.

Lamb won Tuesday. He didn't win by attacking Trump. That would have been counter-productive and/or a waste of time. He did it by showing voters why they should vote for him, stressing core D values of the economy, attacking the tax cuts and the attacks on health care.

I guarantee if he had ranted and railed and said just what Hillary just said, he would have lost in a landslide, just like Hillary did in that district in 2016

[JI7]

41. Obama didn't rant and rave either and lost there

Not every district is like that one.

Lamb did what he had to in that type of district.

Lamb also didn't support as much gun control as most democrats want.

What hurt Hillary wad russia and Comey. Not failing to run like lamb which nationally would not work because of a more diverse and liberal constituency than that one district.

[ollie10]

45. her deplorables comment hurt her

that's why she backed off it. but it was too late.

and here she is saying similar stuff, no lesson learned.

The only people that liked what hillary said were people who were going to vote D anyway.

[JI7]

50. Obama lost that district before deplorable comment.

These people hate seeing black people protest unfair targeting by cops also so maybe poc should just accept bigotry against them.

[ollie10]

52. didn't say that

what I said was hillary said the deplorable comment during the campaign, she realized it was a mistake and had to stop....but now she is up to similar comments which are not going to help Ds and probably will hurt us.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

28. But HRC isn't running in 2020

And if Democrats (for some reason) need to disavow her comments, then so be it. I just don't think most people are going to remember these comments by 2020 (they may not even remember them by the end of the day given Trump's constant shenanigans) and/or hold Democrats accountable for them. The people likely to be upset about them and/or not understand the context of them aren't likely to vote for Democrats anyway.

[ollie10]

39. Hillary is a great fund raiser

She should continue doing that. Send her to California and the coasts. And someone tell her that you don't see Obama saying stupid stuff like she did last week.

Just keep her out of districts that voted for Trump last time. The Ds running in those districts don't need that kind of help.

[JI7]

44. And yet Obama still lost that district. And there is a reason Biden and not Obama

Was asked to campaign there.

[ollie10]

47. But Lamb won. Seems to me Lamb did something right

If hillary had come to Pittsburgh and said that deplorable stuff last week, Lamb would have lost going away.

[JI7]

51. Yes, lamb did what he had to in that district which is not reprrsentative of the country as a whol

[hueymahl]

29. Very True and Very Pragmatic

Hopefully it will start to sink in some that we need to actually practice politics instead of saying just what makes us feel good.

[BeyondGeography]

36. Good question

Much better than the answers you have received so far.

My two cents: Forget the popular vote; HRC won by three million and her margin was 4.5 million in California, which is how we profoundly got our asses kicked in the electoral college. An estimated 8.4 million people who voted for Obama over Romney in 2012 switched to Trump. This strikes me as a major problem. We need to understand who the persuadables are among them and win them back. Questioning their humanity and the quality of their worldview probably isn't the best place to start.

[Caliman73]

59. I can.

We do our best to minimize the interference from Russian trolls

We do our best to counteract or overcome the voter suppression tactics that Republicans used to disenfranchise Democratic voters

We focus on local policies that will help the most people (typically, any policy that will help poor working Black women, will benefit everyone in society)

We do NOT stop calling out racism, bigotry, and misogyny for political expedience.

As others have said, Hillary lost within a margin of error and cheating in the last election. Lanny Davis puts together a very compelling case about how Comey's interference and the fake email scandal were the margin of victory for Trump in the last few weeks of the election.

This whole idea that "We need Trump voters" is bullshit. We DO need to bring some of the 46% of the population who are eligible to vote, out from their stupor, but that is not who Hillary Clinton is talking about. She is talking about the people who supported and continue to hold out hope for Trump.

[Nasruddin]

63. Knowing

"You don't get someone to vote for you by calling them a deplorable."
You are absolutely right about this - that was a "deplorable" mistake to be sure.
As I said elsewhere, though, her opponent buried the whole country in a barrage of stuff like that and worse - and won. I guess it's a matter of charisma, and picking the right enemies. HRC was 0-2 in that instance.

To get back to your argument, it is perfectly possible to do both - we can make alliances with people with whom we have deep disagreements on important subjects, in order to accomplish a goal. HRC at some point last year mentioned Spielberg's Lincoln as a "master class" in how this was done in our past.

We allied ourselves and worked with Stalin in WWII to win that war.

But we can also be 100% clear about what and whom we are working with, what our limits are, and theirs. We didn't do that with Stalin and the Soviet Union, at least not coherently, and it cost us - the whole world - later. How do we separate stating this and discussing it, from name-calling? Is that what Hillary did, or was it made to look that way?

[dalton99a]

17. Meanwhile their precious Shithole is spewing lies and insults 24/7

[Eliot Rosewater]

37. Criticizing Hillary is a popular thing around here.

It is popular to do it in other places as well.

Assuming she isnt running again, these SAME attacks will start against whoever does.

[wiggs]

18. George Lakoff said as much, before the election. Patriarchy is deeply, subtly embedded. nt

[dalton99a]

21. I say it's time to get Hillary out of the White House

[dhol82]

60. Yeah, Fox keeps putting her in

Amazing how they keep forgetting what happened during the election.

[Funtatlaguy]

40. Dems should listen to Lakoff.

He is our version of Frank Luntz...the Repub strategist and pollster who does a lot of focus groups.

[SHRED]

23. What good politically does this accomplish?

Are the "backwards" residents of tRump States going to hear this and think, "yeah, I'm stuck in the past and need to change".
Are Democrats somehow educated by this that we already know?

[LanternWaste]

27. Would Trump voters somehow vote for Democrats if she simply did not say it?

"What good politically does this accomplish?"
Accuracy is always good, regardless of party.

"Are Democrats somehow educated by this that we already know?"
Would Trump voters somehow vote for Democrats if she simply did not say it?

But I get it... acting beholden to simplistic commercial branding and thirty-second attention spans lacking context or nuance is a very high concern. L

[Cuthbert Allgood]

77. There were Obama to Trump voters

So we can certainly try to get them back. Do you think this is going to help?

[PaulX2]

24. Deplorables Are Deplorables For A Reason

They still don't like being called names, even though they are pathetic scum.

Here's the plan.

Some of us reach out to them. Make them respond to facts.

The rest of us Call them lying racist cult scum to their faces.

Good cop, bad cop.

Won't help.

We will simply outnumber them.

Love, justice, and reality shall triumph over hate.

[NastyRiffraff]

38. She was right about a LOT of things

She warned the country, again and again, about how dangerous Donald Trump was. She was widely criticized for using the word "dangerous," but she was right.

Now that she's a private citizen not running for anything, she can say what she wants. Of course she'll be criticized; she always was and always will be. But she's been right most of the time and likely will continue to be. The people who are JUST OUTRAGED that she implies that some white married Republican women are pressured to vote like men want them to won't look at the facts. I don't like those facts either, but I'm a member of the Reality Based Community. (remember us)?

[dalton99a]

43. +1. "She's a private citizen not running for anything, she can say what she wants"

[pandr32]

46. She knows what she is talking about

It is time we trusted her and listened. If we don't understand why Republican women do what they do how can we begin to approach them? The women's movement will not end until it reaches its goals.

[Awsi Dooger]

48. Tough balancing act

Decades from now Hillary will soar in popularity and be seen as a truth telling visionary, while Trump will be isolated as the laughingstock president from our history.

But right now that Silent Generation and other fearful groups plus right wing media are still boosting Trump and his party to sufficient level to win elections. Trump is going to own severe benefit of a doubt in 2020. That's what posters here and on other Democratic sites are preferring to deny. I warned about in with Bush in 2004. Incumbents are hellish to remove. We need an ideal candidate and can't afford to bleed any more support via unfortunate comments that will linger. Only in that regard do I wish Hillary would self edit for a while.

Mostly we require independents to remain slanted our way. GOTV means nothing compared to independent preference. That's the unfortunate reality. If independents are sampled on Hillary's remarks and approve of them, then let her keep talking.

[malthaussen]

53. What past?

You mean the one that never existed?

The excerpt makes no reference to "living in the past."

-- Mal

[Gothmog]

57. Good article

[zaj]

61. Republicans are right... and so is Hillary

We need a way to embrace change without alienating those who are reluctant to embrace it.

We need to find the right words, that comes from listening.

What made Obama amazing was his ability to do exactly this.

[lunamagica]

66. She is honest, and tells the truth. I admire her for that. Too bad that those

qualities are seen by some in such negative light.

[dlk]

69. Hillary's Comments Tend to Get to the Heart of the Matter - Thus the Endless Criticism

It's part of the hazard of being an extremely intelligent and competent woman who isn't afraid to tell the truth.

[Wwcd]

78. Thank you

People keep trying to prove Hillary wrong.
They can't.
Thus attack her with name calling like the immature bullys they are.

The facts are on her side, indeed

[MichMary]

81. Telling the truth

When I was two or three, I told the lady next door that she was fat. It was true, but I still got punished for it.

When telling the truth isn't going to change things, sometimes we're better off not telling it.

[Egnever]

83. This

Thanks.

[BoneyardDem]

82. She was correct, and the Republicans got what they had been yapping about all through Obama's Admin

"I want my country back"

Of course, the rest of us would like to progress and move forward...but that's a whole other story.

[patricia92243]

89. Never have understood why the term "elitist" is supposed to be an insult. I suppose those

people don't like well-educated, smart, or progressive. I guess they think "redneck" is a compliment.

[Gothmog]

90. Some fact checking

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