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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums".. I am guilty of having been obedient, having subordinated myself to my official duties..."
Adolf EichmannI did try to leave my position, to leave for the front, for honest battle. But I was held fast in those dark duties. Once again I would stress that I am guilty of having been obedient,having subordinated myself to my official duties and the obligations of war service and my oath of allegiance and my oath of office, and in addition, once the war started, there was also martial law.
This obedience was not easy. And again, anyone who has to give orders and has to obey orders knows what one can demand of people. I did not persecute Jews with avidity and passion. That is what the government did. Nor could the persecution be carried out other tha nby a government. But I never I accuse the leaders of abusing my obedience. At that time obedience was demanded, just as in the future it will also be demanded of the subordinate. Obedience is commended as a virtue.
May I therefore ask that consideration be given to the fact that I obeyed, and not whom I obeyed.
One declassified cable, among scores obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union in a lawsuit against the architects of the enhanced interrogation techniques, says that chief of base and another senior counterterrorism official on scene had the sole authority power to halt the questioning.
She never did so, records show, watching as Zubaydah vomited, passed out and urinated on himself while shackled. During one waterboarding session, Zubaydah lost consciousness and bubbles began gurgling from his mouth. Medical personnel on the scene had to revive him. Haspel allowed the most brutal interrogations by the CIA to continue for nearly three weeks even though, as the cables sent from Thailand to the agencys headquarters repeatedly stated, subject has not provided any new threat information or elaborated on any old threat information.
At one point, Haspel spoke directly with Zubaydah, accusing him of faking symptoms of physical distress and psychological breakdown. In a scene described in a book written by one of the interrogators, the chief of base came to his cell and congratulated him on the fine quality of his acting. According to the book, the chief of base, who was identified only by title, said: Good job! I like the way youre drooling; it adds realism. Im almost buying it. You wouldnt think a grown man would do that.
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/03/fred-hiatts-favorite-torture-apologist-supports-sadistic-torturer-head-cia
http://remember.org/eichmann/ownwords
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".. I am guilty of having been obedient, having subordinated myself to my official duties..." (Original Post)
kpete
Mar 2018
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shraby
(21,946 posts)1. Kicked for more exposure!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)2. So, Ms. Haspel, regarding the waterboarding of Mr. Zubaydah
What did you think you would get from waterboarding him the 83rd time that you hadn't gotten from him the previous 82 waterboardings?
Yeah, just what we need in our government, more war criminals.
onethatcares
(16,165 posts)3. another one that can't visit Europe
due to war crime charges.
We never do read about how well Rumsfeld, Rice, or any of the others are being welcomed there either.
Gee, it's like they don't go there at all.
dlk
(11,540 posts)4. Haspel is a War Criminal -- Lock Her Up!