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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:44 AM Mar 2018

Mike Allen: Mueller 'Much More Interested in What Happened After The Election Than Before'


by Aidan McLaughlin | 6:40 am, March 19th, 2018




Mike Allen appeared on MSNBC Monday to talk about the latest Axios report that gives an indication of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s end game.

MSNBC debuted a spanking new segment with Axios on Monday, set to air just before Morning Joe daily, based on Allen’s “1 Big Thing” — the scoop that leads his flagship newsletter Axios AM.

Allen said his reporting gives “a big indication of what Mueller’s end game may be, a little sneak peak at where he’s headed.”

“We’re told that in conversation with the Trump lawyers, that Mueller is much more interested in what happened after the election than before,” Allen said. “So he’s very interested in the firing of James Comey, he’s very interesting in the firing of national security adviser Michael Flynn.”

“That suggests he’s looking more at obstruction of justice, things that might have happened in office, than he is at collusion, maybe something that happened during the campaign.”

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Mike Allen: Mueller 'Much More Interested in What Happened After The Election Than Before' (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
He's got "goods" on both! Iliyah Mar 2018 #1
i suspect obstruction (particularly in this case) is much easier to prove, but unblock Mar 2018 #2
Money laundering and tax evasion, however... dawg day Mar 2018 #5
i thought "laundering" pretty much requires paying taxes unblock Mar 2018 #6
Mueller's got 16-17 prosecutors working for him... Eyeball_Kid Mar 2018 #3
I suspect it is similar to Nixon marylandblue Mar 2018 #4
Or he is simply confirming that Trump WhiteTara Mar 2018 #7
What he asks now is based on what he does not know now. tableturner Mar 2018 #8
Makes me think this guy may not have a clue what he is talking about Egnever Mar 2018 #9
exactly steve2470 Mar 2018 #10

unblock

(52,115 posts)
2. i suspect obstruction (particularly in this case) is much easier to prove, but
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:49 AM
Mar 2018

i also suspect that "mere" obstruction won't be nearly enough to bring donnie down.

even if mueller lays out dead-to-rights evidence, republicans will dismiss it all.

even if he's indicted, donnie's lawyers can surely tie it up in court until after the election even if the supreme court decides to let the case proceed.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. Money laundering and tax evasion, however...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:14 AM
Mar 2018

Trump didn't go to all this trouble for nothing. He wants more money. He's probably been laundering money for years, and probably most of that didn't get taxed.

This past couple weeks, his buddy Putin has apparently ordered the murders of those Russians in the UK. This never was just "two tough guys patting each other's butt", but it's never been clearer that Trump has been complicit with a murderer, and has helped to enrich that murderer.

Trump's minions won't ever believe that, and the GOP in Congress are complicit enough and craven enough themselves to continue to ignore this. But there's a drumbeat, and it's getting louder. Only a small percentage of the populace are in thrall to Trump. The rest despise him, and even those who are neutral are getting tired of all the sht and turmoil. The GOP is going to lose elections now, and that might make them a little more interested in getting rid of him.

unblock

(52,115 posts)
6. i thought "laundering" pretty much requires paying taxes
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:25 AM
Mar 2018

maybe it's a good thing that i'm hardly an expert on laundering money, but my limited understanding is that laundering money involves making illegally acquired money appear to be legally earned income, for which you would then have to pay taxes.

the idea is not to evade taxes but to conceal the underlying illegal activity.

consider "breaking bad", where a restaurant or a car wash is used to appear to earn money that actually is from meth.


to your main point, i agree. i sense that donnie is feeling the pressure and will soon feel he has to go all-or-nothing for full control. if he sits back, he and his supporters in congress will get whacked in november. look for him to put his little fingers on the scale to try to keep his support in place.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
3. Mueller's got 16-17 prosecutors working for him...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:57 AM
Mar 2018

I seriously doubt that he's focusing on after-election crimes. He's got reams of evidence of crimes well before the election. Focusing on after-election crimes would be a serious misuse of his resources.

Let's be clear: this is the biggest criminal investigation in the nation's history. It reaches back in time, works to the present, and goes well beyond the borders of the US. Mueller knows what's at stake, and if his reputation and behavior are any indication, he's not going to hold back. When the indictments are unsealed, Trumpy's lawyers will have a good sit-down with the Trumpy and tell him that he's a goner. But Mueller's release of questions this past weekend for Trumpy and his lawyers to mull over may have done the trick. The questions are reported to be devastating, mostly because Mueller already knows the answers, and Trumpy has no way out.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. I suspect it is similar to Nixon
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:05 AM
Mar 2018

Little evidence he actually ordered the crimes, lots of evidence he ordered the coverup.

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
7. Or he is simply confirming that Trump
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:57 AM
Mar 2018

was deeply involved and is part of the conspiracy to sell the US to the lowest bidder in Russia or China.

editing to actually say, sell to the highest bidder, skim off the top and then give the rest to the 1%.

tableturner

(1,679 posts)
8. What he asks now is based on what he does not know now.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:55 AM
Mar 2018

Let's face it.....the obstruction obviously has mostly come after the original underlying crimes happened, so the inquiries about obstruction have necessarily come later. That is all this report really reflects. It's likely that Mueller already has investigated, and knows a lot about, the underlying crimes.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
9. Makes me think this guy may not have a clue what he is talking about
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:02 PM
Mar 2018

I would be surprised in Mueller hired a bunch of money laundering experts just to go after what happened after the election.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
10. exactly
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:04 PM
Mar 2018

To get the complete facts, he has to pursue the truth of what transpired before and after the election.

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