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poboy2

(2,078 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:36 PM Mar 2018

Facebook is facing an existential crisis

Facebook is facing an existential crisis
by Dylan Byers @CNNMoney
March 19, 2018: 10:40 AM ET

The Cambridge Analytica scandal has done immense damage to the brand, sources across the company believe. It will now take a Herculean effort to restore public trust in Facebook's commitment to privacy and data protection, they said. Outside observers think regulation has suddenly become more likely, and yet CEO Mark Zuckerberg appears missing in action.

The scandal also highlights a problem that is built into the company's DNA: Its business is data exploitation. Facebook makes money by, among other things, harvesting your data and selling it to app developers and advertisers. Preventing those buyers from passing that data to third parties with ulterior motives may ultimately be impossible.
Indeed, the most alarming aspect of Cambridge Analytica's "breach" is that it wasn't a breach at all. It happened almost entirely above board and in line with Facebook policy.
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In a statement, Facebook deputy general counsel Paul Grewal said "protecting people's information is at the heart of everything we do." That may be a hard argument for the public to accept given that Facebook's business is providing people's information to outside parties whose ultimate goals are unknowable.
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Meanwhile, Zuckerberg and the rest of the Facebook leadership seem conspicuously absent. Neither the Facebook CEO nor his top deputy, Sheryl Sandberg, have commented publicly on the matter. They have left that task to Grewal, a lawyer. No one has provided an adequate explanation for why Facebook did not disclose Kogan's violation to the more than 50 million users who were affected when the company first learned about it in 2015.
"We are conducting a comprehensive internal and external review and are working to determine the accuracy of the claims that the Facebook data in question still exists. That is where our focus lies as we remain committed to vigorously enforcing our policies to protect people's information," Grewal said in a statement Sunday.
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http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/19/technology/business/facebook-data-privacy-crisis/index.html
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Facebook is facing an existential crisis (Original Post) poboy2 Mar 2018 OP
- Yes indeed. I'm deactivating my account underthematrix Mar 2018 #1
i deleted mine yesterday CelticWinter Mar 2018 #6
I only check my account every couple awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #2
Facebook, Inc. common stock is down 7% Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #3
Facebook Common Stock... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #4
Check the mystery spike early today - looks like the Fat Cats tried to prop it up then gave up Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #18
Not Surprised... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #20
Facebook is evil Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #5
A surveillance program disguised as social media. shanny Mar 2018 #7
Snowden said it. Truth is truth. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #10
I know that, and I am a fan. shanny Mar 2018 #12
I am not a fan. But again, truth is truth. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #13
It's the most annoying, intrusive, pervasive personal information gathering tool ever invented dalton99a Mar 2018 #11
I have a facebook page, which I never post anything on shanny Mar 2018 #14
FB is sneaky and predatory dalton99a Mar 2018 #16
"The most alarming aspect of Cambridge Analytica's 'breach' is that it wasn't a breach at all. dalton99a Mar 2018 #8
EXACTLY THIS!!! LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #21
Never joined, never wanted to join. Butterflylady Mar 2018 #9
It shouldn't just be Facebook mythology Mar 2018 #15
So Many Folks... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #23
When it's free, you KNOW you're going to regret it. Somehow. No such thing as a free lunch. lindysalsagal Mar 2018 #25
And let's not let it get lost here that FB has known about what CA was doing since 2015. Squinch Mar 2018 #17
Article: poboy2 Mar 2018 #19
+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #22
. poboy2 Mar 2018 #24

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
2. I only check my account every couple
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:40 PM
Mar 2018

of weeks to reply to anyone who may have messaged me.

They've been almost dead to me since before the elections in 2016.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
4. Facebook Common Stock...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:44 PM
Mar 2018

Needs to fall until a total devaluation of the company takes place and it becomes a penny stock.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
20. Not Surprised...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:18 PM
Mar 2018

More likely than not Zuckerberg's Homies Tried and Fail To Add Onto Its Valuation Because They Knew This Story Was Going To Kill The Stock Today, In An Effort To Not Make What Is Horrible, Look Bad In The Eyes Of Wall Street Day Traders.

It Did Not Work. #ShortAndSellFacebookStock

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
7. A surveillance program disguised as social media.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018

I won't say who said that, because many will discount it because they don't like the source, but it is quite true imo.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
12. I know that, and I am a fan.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:52 PM
Mar 2018

But many here are not and I'm not interested in pissing contests or deflecting from Facebook's BS.

dalton99a

(81,391 posts)
11. It's the most annoying, intrusive, pervasive personal information gathering tool ever invented
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:50 PM
Mar 2018

Everything you ever wanted to know about a person, and a person's friends' friends' friends....

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
14. I have a facebook page, which I never post anything on
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:56 PM
Mar 2018

and I visit the site maybe once every several months, just to check in on distant friends. But I have at least one friend, who is on daily, several times a day, posting every thing she does--I don't get it. She won't use Craigslist, because of privacy issues but she does that? And claims that she never posts anything that could be used against her.

dalton99a

(81,391 posts)
16. FB is sneaky and predatory
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:09 PM
Mar 2018

I suspect they target the ignorant/weak-minded/socially isolated - and anyone who doesn't pay close attention to privacy settings - along with the fine print and changes related to them, which basically says "One false move, and we get all your data and sell it" - which they've been doing all along anyway...



dalton99a

(81,391 posts)
8. "The most alarming aspect of Cambridge Analytica's 'breach' is that it wasn't a breach at all.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018
It happened almost entirely above board and in line with Facebook policy."

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
21. EXACTLY THIS!!!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:20 PM
Mar 2018

Facebook was A-Okay With Selling Your Data and Privacy Information To The Highest Bidder. In Other Words, Facebook is Pure Evil.

Butterflylady

(3,537 posts)
9. Never joined, never wanted to join.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:49 PM
Mar 2018

I don't want everyone seeing my private life and I certainly don't want to see anyone else's. But that's just me.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. It shouldn't just be Facebook
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:06 PM
Mar 2018

Social media in general, anybody trying to sell ads, have the same incentives to not think past the question of "can we make money off of this?" to the question of morally should we do this. Online ads can track you far more accurately than other ads. Facebook, Google, Twitter etc have enormous amounts of data.

I don't buy the claim that it would be impossible to not share infinite data. Go with a need to know policy. Make companies that want access to the data have limited access and be open about what is shared. How many people knew Facebook quizzes gave access to not just your data but your connections data? Permissions need to become more granular and more plain language. The default should be that people are opted out of sharing most data.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
23. So Many Folks...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:38 PM
Mar 2018

Took those STUPID Facebook Quizzes. Some MANY FOLKS right now use that plus the STUPID 'Check In' Feature on FB or the latest one "Tell Me About" where they tell everyone about anything in their life.

Folks really need to re-evaluate their use of Social Media, ASAP!

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
25. When it's free, you KNOW you're going to regret it. Somehow. No such thing as a free lunch.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:00 PM
Mar 2018

When I want something computer-related, I'd rather pay for a good product, so I don't pay in other ways.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
19. Article:
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:17 PM
Mar 2018

sentence in clip in OP:

"No one has provided an adequate explanation for why Facebook did not disclose Kogan's violation to the more than 50 million users who were affected when the company first learned about it in 2015. "

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