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brush

(53,743 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:58 PM Mar 2018

I was just listening to the progressive channel on sattelite radio...

and there was a guy on defending facebook. His contention was that users of
the platform have the responsibility to set their privacy setting so their info can't be accessed, and that the users of facebook are its product—meaning that facebook can use that date to sell users info to advertisers etc. if privacy setting aren't tailored to stop that.

I don't buy that. I don't think facebook is entirely without liability in a case like the Cambridge Analytica data mining.

Facebook is who the users contracted with when signing up whether they adjusted privacy setting or not (presumably so their ex or unfriended people can't contact them, which most think the privacy settings are for), so it's facebook's responsibility to make sure their users info, unless explicity consented to, is kept from nefarious data miners like CA.

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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
2. There cannot be a safe that is secure enough to hold the world's largest diamond if....
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:08 PM
Mar 2018

...a thief decides to steal it. Criminals find ways around normal people.

brush

(53,743 posts)
3. But facebook made no effort even though they've known for two years of...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:11 PM
Mar 2018

fake news on their platform. And they even helped CA with staffers to do their dirty work.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
7. I agree.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:59 PM
Mar 2018

But, I'm not sure they were knowing accomplices to what CA was trying to do? Maybe?

I don't think Facebook was created for nefarious purposes but it was definitely used as such, it does appear.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
5. "The users of Facebook are its product." OMG. That is so insane.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:22 PM
Mar 2018

The users are not the commodity for the corporation. Facebook is the commodity.

I feel like I'm going nuts.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
6. A commodity implies a transaction has taken place........
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:45 PM
Mar 2018

And it has. You agree to give Facebook access to your data (the commodity) and they agree to pay you by giving you access to all the things Facebook provides. (The payment for the commodity)

So yes, Facebook users (specifically their data) are their commodity.

Dont beleive me? Just read their terms of service which everyone agrees to without reading.

brush

(53,743 posts)
8. Kinda sneaky if all they're doing is getting your info to sell to whoever comes...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 10:45 PM
Mar 2018

along with dollars—even those representing adversarial nations.

Seems face-effin-book should do due diligence on who it sells data to.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
9. And this why I dont do social media
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:47 AM
Mar 2018

You might as well post the details of your life on a billboard next to the highway.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
10. Watch Terms and Conditions May Apply (2013).
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:36 AM
Mar 2018

It's a documentary currently available on Amazon Prime.

Prepare to have your mind blown.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
11. I will, but this all is so disturbing I'm a little scared. And DU is as far as I go into
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:40 AM
Mar 2018

social media. I've never had FB or twitter accounts. And my mind is already blown.

Thanks for the recommendation

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