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John Dean: "Stormy is not going to pay a cent" (Original Post) triron Mar 2018 OP
Vile human bile filth like Cohen bluff people, successfully, and win that way all the time Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #1
Yup, just look at the Kobach trial to see SonofDonald Mar 2018 #5
I believe she found PunksMom Mar 2018 #26
An asshole bully representing another asshole bully YessirAtsaFact Mar 2018 #27
Don't trust them, they buried the truth about GW, could easily get spooked by drumpf and fold.. lark Mar 2018 #2
Please do not show the entire pic if they do have them. The mind is a fragile entity. BSdetect Mar 2018 #3
Yes, this is one time I actually *WANT* pixelation. NBachers Mar 2018 #18
I think the Bush family murielm99 Mar 2018 #9
Depending on the coin toss. Bush Power is the Deep State. 😳 OhNo-Really Mar 2018 #17
if Stormy gets her fatter payoff, she will fold Skittles Mar 2018 #20
No kidding here. lark Mar 2018 #24
and Melania being upset about it? Skittles Mar 2018 #29
Ok. Surprised he chose to weigh in on this, Hortensis Mar 2018 #4
Yeah PatSeg Mar 2018 #8
Lol. Trump and his legal thugs are drowning, Hortensis Mar 2018 #10
"licenses to practice law just useful paper" - applicable to many people, especially those that erronis Mar 2018 #12
Not to insult all attorneys, but I've read that Hortensis Mar 2018 #14
I'm not sure if it is causation, but many I've know have been rather anal. (IANAL) erronis Mar 2018 #16
the problem lies in advocacy. the *process* is meant to be ethical, not the individuals. unblock Mar 2018 #28
he has gotten away with this kind of crap for years dembotoz Mar 2018 #15
Trump's lawyers remind me of something PatSeg Mar 2018 #19
Avenatti and Cohen's GallopingGhost Mar 2018 #6
"When your lawyer has a lawyer, you know you are losing." . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #7
Good phrase but I hope it doesn't apply to the whole chain of legal experts in the SCO/FBI. erronis Mar 2018 #13
I hope he's right. Love that Dean has Twitter and speaks out. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #11
I'll tell you what'll REALLY tick off Dear Leader... Buns_of_Fire Mar 2018 #21
LOL.. isn't that a Cha Mar 2018 #23
Cohen it just a two bit lawyer. That's why he was hired by Trump oasis Mar 2018 #22
Must TV EricMaundry Mar 2018 #25

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. Vile human bile filth like Cohen bluff people, successfully, and win that way all the time
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 12:56 PM
Mar 2018

He is a shit lawyer and if he goes up against anyone who knows what they are doing, will lose.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
5. Yup, just look at the Kobach trial to see
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:48 PM
Mar 2018

The caliber of "The Best People" the dumpf hires, when confronted by real lawyers and that thing called "The Truth" or "Logic" they'll either fold or participate willingly in their own humiliation.

Makes me smile.

lark

(23,078 posts)
2. Don't trust them, they buried the truth about GW, could easily get spooked by drumpf and fold..
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:02 PM
Mar 2018

I will be absolutely astounded if the interview actually airs. Now, I'd love love to see it and still have a shred of hope that the nation will hear her interview and even hopefully see ugly pix too.

murielm99

(30,724 posts)
9. I think the Bush family
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:47 PM
Mar 2018

has a great deal more power than 45 and his crew. Even those who still support 45 are getting tired of all the mess he creates. They are almost certainly working against him behind the scenes, even if they are hypocritical and greedy enough to get all they can while he is in office.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
20. if Stormy gets her fatter payoff, she will fold
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:21 PM
Mar 2018

don'd kid yourself that it is about anything other than $$$$$$$$$$$$$

lark

(23,078 posts)
24. No kidding here.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 08:44 AM
Mar 2018

No one but a gold digger would voluntarily have sex with him, never. I just love that the grifting profiteering money monger could get exposed by a woman with similar characteristics. Karma. Plus his base needs to see ugly pictures of him, they are too stupid to get the actual horror of his words, but think they'd get it to see his naked corpulent self weakly having sex. He doesn't want to look weak and that's why he's fighting so hard. He doesn't care about the rest, just her divulging how awfully weak he is in bed and the pix.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
29. and Melania being upset about it?
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 04:17 PM
Mar 2018

LOL, SHE is with him for the same reason Stormy was

I absolutely DETEST gold diggers

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Ok. Surprised he chose to weigh in on this,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:08 PM
Mar 2018

but he is an attorney. Interesting that the NDA (a new acronym for our vocabularies) is sloppily written (it was apparently a standard document presented to all designated females). And this crew is going up against Mueller's!

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
8. Yeah
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:23 PM
Mar 2018

And Cohen probably thought she was an airhead and wouldn't notice that the NDA was "sloppily written". Intimidating women seems to be Cohen's specialty. I think they greatly underestimated this woman.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Lol. Trump and his legal thugs are drowning,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:54 PM
Mar 2018

in completely over their heads. Trump hired thugs, with licenses to practice law just useful paper, to intimidate women, threaten creditors into accepting 30 cents on the dollar, negotiate contracts with mobsters, and figure out tax dodges. They're hopelessly incompetent up against the real thing but haven't told him.

As for Stormy, she's good, but she has the fourth estate on her side, as well as a competent attorney.

Btw, did you hear Trump just tried to hire a real attorney, the kind who represents presidents? He was turned down -- again. Four such firms in DC, and none will touch him.


erronis

(15,216 posts)
12. "licenses to practice law just useful paper" - applicable to many people, especially those that
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:10 PM
Mar 2018

Want to make bucks rather than help humanity and the world.

Some reputable institutions are just paper mills, open the the highest bidders. Demeans everyone including their own "graduates."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Not to insult all attorneys, but I've read that
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:23 PM
Mar 2018

they tend to do lower than expected on tests measuring moral/ethical IQ (or however it was actually stated). Seems that they're trained to examine words for how they can be turned into tools to achieve their goals, their intended meaning often irrelevant or a problem to be gotten around, and over time this tools mentality can move beyond examining contracts into other spheres of life.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
16. I'm not sure if it is causation, but many I've know have been rather anal. (IANAL)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:26 PM
Mar 2018

Of course, if I had to read all that f'in fine print and understand it, I might become rather limited in my capacity for real human emotions.

unblock

(52,163 posts)
28. the problem lies in advocacy. the *process* is meant to be ethical, not the individuals.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 10:47 AM
Mar 2018

each party is meant to have vigorous advocacy, and a judge/jury/arbitrator are meant to see the appropriate facts and arguments and determine an appropriate and ethical outcome.

the *process* is designed to be ethical and have an ethical outcome.

individually, the lawyers are supposed to advocate vigorously for their own client's perspective. they are not really supposed to advocate for a fair outcome. that's not their role in the process. they can negotiate for that with the other lawyer, but they're supposed to advocate for their client.

in fact, a lawyer's ethical duty is to the client and they can be disciplined and even disbarred for failing in that, in an effort to do something that's more fair to the other side.


I think some ceo's do unethical things for similar reasons -- they're taught to believe their ethical duty is solely in making profit for shareholders. so they end up screwing customers or innocent bystanders in order to maximize profit. it's ethical by the approach to ethics they've been taught.

dembotoz

(16,796 posts)
15. he has gotten away with this kind of crap for years
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:23 PM
Mar 2018

how much did he sue bill mahrer for?
who has the kind of resources to fight if trumps thugs go after you?

i sure as hell don't

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
19. Trump's lawyers remind me of something
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:17 PM
Mar 2018

out of a gangster flick. I can't even imagine how they got through law school or passed the bar. They don't really know the law, they know how the threaten and intimidate. I think Cohen has watched too many episodes of The Sopranos. Apparently in a rare moment of clarity, Trump realized it as well when he reached out to a "real" lawyer, who was smart enough to turn him down. Or someone in his inner circle advised him that he was not well served with his current bunch of clowns.

Looking forward to Sunday night.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
6. Avenatti and Cohen's
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:53 PM
Mar 2018

lawyer Schwartz got into it pretty good on Anderson yesterday. Avenatti was calm and collected and Schwartz did come across like a frantic.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
13. Good phrase but I hope it doesn't apply to the whole chain of legal experts in the SCO/FBI.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:13 PM
Mar 2018

I have a feeling that with research such as the Paradise/Panama papers and the ICIJ/ProPublica/etc. that we'll see a lot more connecting of the dots between various shysters.

Wisht I was still a candidate for a nice PhD - great studies with some fantastic resources and tools.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,172 posts)
21. I'll tell you what'll REALLY tick off Dear Leader...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:59 PM
Mar 2018

If the 60 Minutes interview gets higher ratings than his pathetic inauguration ceremony. SAD! FAKE INTERVIEW!

oasis

(49,365 posts)
22. Cohen it just a two bit lawyer. That's why he was hired by Trump
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:03 PM
Mar 2018

in the first place. He got him on the cheap.

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