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Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:57 PM Mar 2018

One more seat, ONE. One more representative with a D instead of an R, ONE, just ONE!

Do people understand how our government works?

Who runs committes in the House and Senate?

Who decides whether or not a bill is even VOTED on AT ALL, let alone how it is voted on?

Let's say there is a bill for, oh I dont know, VOTING RIGHTS or CIVIL RIGHTS, might even change this country in a major way for the better for minorities; guess what though, if the R's are in charge, you wont have to worry about how many Democrats voted or didnt for the bill, because there will be NO VOTE, it WONT happen.

The party controlling the House decides practically everything our government does, period. The same goes for the Senate.

Either you want the NAZIS out of power and the Democrats in power, or you dont.

What happened in 1964 has nothing to do with today, hopefully people understand there is no longer a republican party capable of doing the right thing. Sure, back then the R party were not the racists, per se.

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One more seat, ONE. One more representative with a D instead of an R, ONE, just ONE! (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 OP
Back then they were Republicans, today they are fascist Russian/Repugs. lark Mar 2018 #1
Politics is more about math than philosophy. louis c Mar 2018 #2
Bingo. paleotn Mar 2018 #3
Unfortunately the GOP figured that out 20 years ago FakeNoose Mar 2018 #5
reductio ad absurdum Nitram Mar 2018 #7
Is this some form of criticism of my reply? louis c Mar 2018 #11
Thanks for that quote, perfect Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #9
K&R! mcar Mar 2018 #4
Ditto. iluvtennis Mar 2018 #6
K&R from Florida... BlueJac Mar 2018 #8
Excellent OP Eliot and I look forward to Novembers blue wave; but, dae Mar 2018 #10

lark

(23,065 posts)
1. Back then they were Republicans, today they are fascist Russian/Repugs.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:22 PM
Mar 2018

Too many, including the ass at the top of that party, would be very comfortable in Nazi Germany and want to recreate that here.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
2. Politics is more about math than philosophy.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:23 PM
Mar 2018

If the math is not on your side, the philosophy doesn't matter.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
5. Unfortunately the GOP figured that out 20 years ago
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:45 PM
Mar 2018

... while the Dems have yet to learn it.

Just sayin'

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
11. Is this some form of criticism of my reply?
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 08:38 AM
Mar 2018

Because, my statement is critical thinking logic, in my opinion.

If you have a party philosophy, as the Democrats and Republicans do. And if we have a system which is based in a "winner take all" Democracy, as opposed to a parliamentary system, which gives minority parties a stronger voice, provided there is no party with an absolute majority. Then, I believe that if our party is a minority of the House, the Senate and the Presidency (not to mention the minority on the Supreme Court), our philosophy is reduced to no more than shouting in the wilderness. We can't even get a vote on the floor to start up debate. First, we need the math to be on our side in order to move our philosophy (agenda).

And, the argument that we have to convince people, well, we have, and we still lose the math. We won the popular vote for President, the Senate and came damn close in the House, yet we control no levers of power. So, not only do we have to win the math, we have to win it overwhelmingly.

There is no greater example of my logic than the Electoral College. We won the philosophy be getting a substantially greater vote than our opponents, yet lost the math.

Hence, my conclusion, that math is more important than philosophy.

dae

(3,396 posts)
10. Excellent OP Eliot and I look forward to Novembers blue wave; but,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:08 PM
Mar 2018

I long for the the Democrats of the 60’s. Not a return of the Dixiecrats or Boll Weevils of their ilk but FDR, JFK, LBJ Democratic leaders.

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