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Wed Mar 21, 2018, 04:31 PM

Federal judge rips Kobach at contempt hearing (ACLU trial - Kansas Motor Voter)

For anyone who hasn't been following this trial closely, you're missing out . . . . a constant comedy of errors by Kobach, and just today, a hearing on whether the court should find Kobach in contempt:

"Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach could be facing a contempt order from a federal court after a judge on Tuesday tore into the Kansas Republican about repeatedly skirting her orders.

U.S. District Judge Julie Robinson chastised Kobach, a candidate for governor, at a contempt hearing for suggesting that her previous orders have left any room for ambiguity.

"I've had to police this over and over and over again,” Robinson said with frustration during the hearing in Kansas City, Kan."

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"Robinson will rule in the near future whether to hold Kobach in contempt of court and will separately rule on the overall case, which will determine whether thousands can cast ballots this November when Kansas elects a new governor."

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article206025749.html#storylink=cpy

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Reply Federal judge rips Kobach at contempt hearing (ACLU trial - Kansas Motor Voter) (Original post)
stranger81 Mar 2018 OP
diva77 Mar 2018 #1
stranger81 Mar 2018 #6
diva77 Mar 2018 #12
SonofDonald Mar 2018 #2
stranger81 Mar 2018 #3
procon Mar 2018 #4
stranger81 Mar 2018 #5
Gothmog Mar 2018 #7
stranger81 Mar 2018 #9
Gothmog Mar 2018 #13
stranger81 Mar 2018 #14
Bantamfancier Mar 2018 #8
Dread Pirate Roberts Mar 2018 #10
stranger81 Mar 2018 #11

Response to stranger81 (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 04:40 PM

1. would be interesting to hear a statement from the NASS.org on Kobach's antics

from the OP:

Kobach's office removed the election manual, which serves as a guide for election officials, from its website after the ACLU raised concerns because it stated that voters needed to provide proof of citizenship, in direct contradiction of the Robinson's order.

"Instead of making that correction, Secretary Kobach simply took the manual down. He took his ball and went home," said Ho, the director of the ACLU's Voting Rights Project.

The judge told Kobach that she never instructed him to take down the manual, and she rejected his suggestion that changing the manual would be too complicated to accomplish quickly.

"That's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous process. ... An online publication can't be updated except for every seven years?" she said.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article206025749.html#storylink=cpy

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Response to diva77 (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:59 PM

6. I would love to see that, too.

Though I don't know how much the NASS is in the pocket of any particular secretaries who may be its constituents at any given time.

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Response to stranger81 (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:55 PM

12. no matter how they respond, it's going to be awkward for them -- but no worries for them cuz no one

ever asks for a statement from them

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Response to stranger81 (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 04:44 PM

2. I would hope that kobachs competition

For the position of governor of Kansas uses the judges final verdict and transcripts of the trial to inform any voters how ill suited kobach is for any job that is paid for with their taxes.

I think kobach needs to re-enter the private sector for employment, fast food establishments are always hiring........

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Response to stranger81 (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 04:44 PM

3. Here's another good piece summarizing the background of the trial

and Kobach's utter inability to competently try the case himself, for those who might be interested:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/kris-kobach-is-a-loser.html

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Response to stranger81 (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:30 PM

4. Probably that first time anyone ever held him accountable.

Kobach has been wrapped securely within the GOP bubble where he gets to write all the rules and do whatever he wants without fear of so much as a question let alone judge demanding his total submission.

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Response to procon (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:58 PM

5. I think you're right.

Just the way he interacts with the court makes that pretty clear. You NEVER, EVER, EVER, interrupt a federal judge when they're speaking from the bench, and Kobach's been doing that consistently throughout the trial. He doesn't seem to get that he's not in charge of this particular game.

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Response to stranger81 (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:25 PM

7. This has been my favorite soap opera

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:37 PM

9. I will confess to a large dose of schadenfreude

while reading the trial recaps. The live coverage on Twitter has been a hoot. And a reminder that, if you're not really a trial lawyer, it's not in your client's best interest to try to impersonate one.

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Response to stranger81 (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 22, 2018, 12:34 PM

13. Kobach is clearly not a trial lawyer

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 22, 2018, 01:42 PM

14. That was a great Mother Jones piece.

Thanks for posting it.

God to have been a fly on the wall in that courtroom. I sure wish this trial had been live streamed.

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Response to stranger81 (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:27 PM

8. Two people you never want to piss off.

Your building inspector and the presiding judge.

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Response to stranger81 (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:37 PM

10. He probably should have hired Frito the lawyer from Idiocracy

He would have done a better job than Kobach did.


Kobach Exposed at Trial

At trial, Kobach was only able to identify 18 noncitizens — out of 1.8 million voters —who have successfully registered to vote over a nearly 20-year period. Only five of them actually cast a ballot. Kobach was not able to show that these 18 instances constituted intentional cases of fraud, rather than mistakes stemming from clerical errors.

Regardless, Kobach claims that these numbers represent “just the tip of the iceberg.” In his crusade to find the rest of the non-existent mass, he seems willing to accept the more than 35,000 people who were actually blocked from registering to vote under his law as collateral damage.


https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/kobach-exposed-trial

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:47 PM

11. I love the ACLU's response to that argument.

"Kobach has often said that the evidence of fraud he’s uncovered in Kansas is only “the tip of the iceberg.” In his closing argument, [ACLU Attorney Dale] Ho said, 'The iceberg, on close inspection, Your Honor, it’s more of an ice cube.'"

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/kris-kobach-just-got-humiliated-in-federal-court/

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