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struggle4progress

(118,041 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:31 PM Mar 2018

Nightmare scenario facing Trump's lawyers

BY CHRIS SMITH
MARCH 21, 2018 6:22 PM

... sending the special counsel a written summary of the White House version of key events ... is intended to get Mueller to narrow the range of a possible Trump interview ...

“I think it’s the nuttiest thing I’ve ever heard,” says Solomon Wisenberg ... “I’ve never heard of defense attorneys doing that. If you’re Mueller, it’s highly unlikely you accept what somebody’s lawyer said, when that somebody is a subject, at the least, of your investigation. It’s just so weird. It’s one thing to limit the amount of time, or the location. But when people are interviewed in a criminal investigation, they don’t get to narrow the topic.”

... “Mueller is learning a lot by letting this little passion play over Trump and the interview proceed,” says Joyce Vance, a former U.S. attorney for Alabama. “Because there’s a lot that’s being said publicly, there’s a lot that’s leaking out from the lawyers. Mueller’s team is learning a lot through this process about how the Trump team views the world. I’m sure Mueller is not drawing out the conversation just for that insight, but nonetheless it’s a highly informative process. You learn what the defense lawyers think is important, how they might react to certain questions, what they’re worried about.”

... “I think Trump will chicken out, and his lawyers will dissuade him from talking because he’s not capable of doing the homework and staying on track,” says Peter Zeidenberg, who was part of the prosecution team in the Scooter Libby leak case and is now a defense attorney in Washington. “And I think his side has all kinds of issues. They don’t know what Michael Flynn has told the government. They don’t know exactly what James Comey and Andrew McCabe have said, what Rick Gates has overheard. Normally you tell your client, ‘Just tell the truth.’ But the truth could be really bad for Trump” ...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/the-nightmare-legal-scenario-facing-trumps-lawyers

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. Yes he can be,but
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 12:19 AM
Mar 2018

Interesting point on the article that I was not aware of. You can't subpoena a target of the investigation. So if Mueller gives up without a subpoena, it may mean he plans to indict him.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. Mueller and so many others have the goods on trump
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 12:11 AM
Mar 2018

And a whole prison full of other republicans, either they will get some or all of them, or trump, putin and their fellow gangsters will pull something--- blow up the Empire State Building, start assassinating people, bomb DPRK, commit mass suicide,(now there's a thought) , declare martial law, invade France and Finland, ....who knows, but they will do sonething, to avoid going down.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,481 posts)
8. "his lawyers will dissuade him from ..."
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 12:24 AM
Mar 2018

Pundits and newspeople keep talking about Cheetolini as if he's some kind of normal human being with normal human mental processing. His lawyers are never going to dissuade him from anything that involves moving his lips.

Similarly, every time pundits profess lack of understanding of why Dotardbird does things like refuse to implement sanctions that Congress ordered him to, I just think, "There's no mystery at all, you dodobirds. He's consciously, deliberately, actively a Russian agent. That explains every stupid traitorous thing that he does and that you profess to be mystified by."

No doubt whatever subjects or questions the Trumpzi lawyers resist immediately rise to priority level one for Mueller.

NBachers

(17,007 posts)
9. Informative article. I was initially against this back 'n' forth between Muller & trump's team.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 12:40 AM
Mar 2018

I have memories of Bush sitting on Cheney's lap and doing his talking dummy testimony. But I think Muller's got something better up his sleeve. The more trump's team dickers and submits, the more they reveal.

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
11. They say if he does he's done for.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 02:47 AM
Mar 2018

But I don't believe it.

I expect him to take the fifth and Republicans do nothing.
He'll be just fine.

ProfessorGAC

(64,425 posts)
14. Another Option?
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 02:48 PM
Mar 2018

He goes in, lies of course, and throws EVERYBODY under the bus. Somehow in his tiny brain, he will exonerate himself by making it EVERYBODY else, not realizing at all, that since he actually is "in charge" it still makes it his fault.

TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
15. Here Donald, a nice bedtime song to help you catch some zzzzz.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 03:18 PM
Mar 2018

.




Here's a Todd Rundgren version of Gilbert & Sullivan's Iolanthe Nightmare song.



.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. No way Trump talks to Mueller or his team
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 03:46 PM
Mar 2018

This isn't like twitter or the State of the Union speech where Trump can take one position, get negative feedback, hedge, then completely walk it all back in the span of a news cycle or two. Trump is also not going to remember from one question to the next what lie he settled on just 30 seconds before, and how that doesn't comport with his previous public statements. A loose cannon can fire off just one cannonball. Granted, that can cause a lot of damage, but it's only the one cannonball. Trump is more of a loose Uzi with a high capacity magazine.* He'll squirt lead in every direction for a long time.

*And nobody gives a fuck if it's really a clip, Poindexter.

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