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Patriots owner and the Parkland students: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Mar 2018 OP
Good job Soxfan58 Mar 2018 #1
I can't find any fault in that. JDC Mar 2018 #2
Trump not liking this one. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #3
What a nice thing to do. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #4
Good on ya dude irisblue Mar 2018 #5
That's how it's done. Iggo Mar 2018 #6
He actually has done a lot of charity behind the scenes. Blue_true Mar 2018 #49
This makes me smile Gothmog Mar 2018 #7
These kids are Patriots! msdogi Mar 2018 #8
Aw-RIGHT! Go Pats! trof Mar 2018 #9
I must say, I have gained a little more respect for Kraft and the Patriots. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #10
Robert Kraft is a huge Trump supporter oberliner Mar 2018 #11
this hay rick Mar 2018 #12
he also cheats at football gopiscrap Mar 2018 #14
" he also cheats at football" amuse bouche Mar 2018 #22
deflategate gopiscrap Mar 2018 #26
" deflategate" amuse bouche Mar 2018 #39
Read up on something called the Ideal Gas Law. Blue_true Mar 2018 #52
Don't bother. Patriots Derangement Syndrome runs deep. n/t Blaukraut Mar 2018 #70
I like to rib people that bring of ball deflation. Blue_true Mar 2018 #71
Need one of these?.....pssssssssssss.... paleotn Mar 2018 #36
That's for whiny loser male anatomy. amuse bouche Mar 2018 #41
no whining here... paleotn Mar 2018 #42
Ok..but it wasn't that snappy amuse bouche Mar 2018 #46
LOL workinclasszero Mar 2018 #48
Post #3. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #15
Boom Shak A Laka! ChubbyStar Mar 2018 #18
Yup.. pangaia Mar 2018 #16
Sure, but ya gotta give him this one. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2018 #17
LOL tenderfoot Mar 2018 #20
"Robert Kraft is a huge Trump supporter And a tax cheat, among other things." amuse bouche Mar 2018 #21
Even Hitler painted roses. nt Gore1FL Mar 2018 #32
He actually is a life longDemocrat and has donated more $$ to Democrats then any other NFL owner. CentralMass Mar 2018 #35
It is easier for people to hate him. Blue_true Mar 2018 #51
How sweet RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #59
Kraft, IMO, is a good man. He and his families foundations have done a tremendous amount of CentralMass Mar 2018 #68
Again, so touching. RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #69
to may people, when someone shows you kindness duirng and after the ilness and death of a loved CentralMass Mar 2018 #72
I don't know what that has to do with Bill Belicheat RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #73
I am pleasantly stunned Motley13 Mar 2018 #13
Just erased SayItLoud Mar 2018 #19
I am giving them points Skittles Mar 2018 #23
Kraft finally does the right thing... louis c Mar 2018 #24
He gets props. But xxqqqzme Mar 2018 #25
Good point. Its got to be round trip or no credits allowed. poboy2 Mar 2018 #37
Get there ANY way you can Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #27
Wow... I'm in the uncomfortable situation... Adrahil Mar 2018 #28
Me too! SallyHemmings Mar 2018 #29
Roger that! roscoeroscoe Mar 2018 #62
Whoa! Trump fans not likng this at all. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #30
Screw Trump fans. Blue_true Mar 2018 #53
This reminds me of the old sayings: FuzzyRabbit Mar 2018 #31
I sure don't follow this stuff closely, but I live in the Boston area.... LAS14 Mar 2018 #33
Kraft is close with Rupert Murdoch who has damaged america sharedvalues Mar 2018 #45
Kraft and Kerry are chummy too. Blue_true Mar 2018 #54
Kraft is on the billionaires side, not ours. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #56
Guys like Kraft cover their bases RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #60
Exactly. And that tax-cut-over-all mentality harms america sharedvalues Mar 2018 #63
So youre saying hes friends with Trump because he actually likes him? RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #61
Wow! Cha Mar 2018 #34
Does Kraft support a ban of assault-style weapons? hay rick Mar 2018 #38
I would say yes. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #40
Kraft supports destroying govt to cut taxes on the rich sharedvalues Mar 2018 #44
Patriot owner Kraft is tight with anti-American Murdoch sharedvalues Mar 2018 #43
Um NO .... LenaBaby61 Mar 2018 #55
Kraft and Murdoch are very tight - last Pats game I went to Murdoch was in the owners' box sharedvalues Mar 2018 #57
Putin likes super bowl rings Mosby Mar 2018 #58
Yes, that shows Putins autocratic personality sharedvalues Mar 2018 #64
Whoa his buddy Dump will not like this workinclasszero Mar 2018 #47
cool and all, but this changes nothing NatBurner Mar 2018 #50
Very fitting!! RightiswrongTn Mar 2018 #65
Awaiting the angry tweet storms. 47of74 Mar 2018 #66
I may not be a Pats fan, BlueMTexpat Mar 2018 #67

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
6. That's how it's done.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:54 PM
Mar 2018

I'm not a fan of his, and I know he's getting a little self-promotion in there, too.

But he done good.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. He actually has done a lot of charity behind the scenes.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:14 PM
Mar 2018

Has had some very significant things that he financed, things with big positive social impact.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. I must say, I have gained a little more respect for Kraft and the Patriots.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:59 PM
Mar 2018

That was a really good thing to do.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
52. Read up on something called the Ideal Gas Law.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:28 PM
Mar 2018

Nature is a wonderful thing, there is no bullshitting it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
71. I like to rib people that bring of ball deflation.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:57 PM
Mar 2018

You know, all people have to do to see the truth is inflate any ball that gets inflated, football, basketball, or volleyball, measure the pressure then put the ball into a non heated container in rainy, cold weather like existed at the Colts playoff game for two hours, then bring the ball back inside and immediately measure the pressure in the ball. The activity should be eye opening experience, if people are willing to see the data for what it is.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
42. no whining here...
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 08:50 PM
Mar 2018

I haven't watch more than a snippet of an NFL game since the late 80's, so I don't have a dog in that fight. I just found a snappy retort too hard to pass up.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. Yup..
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:42 PM
Mar 2018

So how do I feel about this?
Oh,I don't know...
Glad they will get a free ride, however..that's for certain...

Hope he doesn't ask them to do something in return. like.... ROOT for his team.





amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
21. "Robert Kraft is a huge Trump supporter And a tax cheat, among other things."
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:11 PM
Mar 2018

This must kill you ... Go Pats..Thank You Mr Kraft

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
35. He actually is a life longDemocrat and has donated more $$ to Democrats then any other NFL owner.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 08:35 PM
Mar 2018

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2016/03/01/boston-sports-owners-political-contributions/



http://people.com/sports/who-is-robert-kraft-everything-to-know-about-the-new-england-patriots-owner/amp/

"Though he is a lifelong Democrat and even donated to both of Barack Obama’s two presidential campaigns, Kraft has defended Donald Trump and remains close friends with the controversial POTUS. Kraft opened up about their friendship in a New York Daily News interview last year, recalling Trump’s kindness in the weeks after his wife passed.


“When Myra died, Melania and Donald came up to the funeral in our synagogue, then they came for memorial week to visit with me,” Kraft said. “Then he called me once a week for the whole year, the most depressing year of my life when I was down and out. He called me every week to see how I was doing, invited me to things, tried to lift my spirits. He was one of five or six people that were like that. I remember that.”

https://nesn.com/2016/02/nfl-owners-political-donations-largely-republican-robert-kraft-more-democratic/

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
51. It is easier for people to hate him.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:25 PM
Mar 2018

I have close friends living in New England. Kraft has done a lots for that area, really significant things. I remember watching a Dolphins game being played in New England and John Kerry was sitting in Kraft's box, next to Kraft, the announcer seemed to have known something about the relationship and said that he and Kerry were close friends, I can believe that given what people have told me about Kraft's charitable activities in New England.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
68. Kraft, IMO, is a good man. He and his families foundations have done a tremendous amount of
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:15 PM
Mar 2018

charitable work. He identifies as a life long Democrat.

He explained his friendship with Trump.

“When Myra died, Melania and Donald came up to the funeral in our synagogue, then they came for memorial week to visit with me,” Kraft said. “Then he called me once a week for the whole year, the most depressing year of my life when I was down and out. He called me every week to see how I was doing, invited me to things, tried to lift my spirits. He was one of five or six people that were like that. I remember that.”

It wasn't that long ago when Bill and Hillary were friends with him.

Shown here with Trump and Melanua at their wedding.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/magazine/when-hillary-and-donald-were-friends.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

Bill's close relation ship with Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/bill-clinton-donald-trump-photos/index.html

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
69. Again, so touching.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 07:46 PM
Mar 2018
"Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have dealt with an unbelievable slanted and negative media, and have come out beautifully – beautifully. You’ve proved to be the ultimate competitor and fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you, but the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election results will give the opportunity to make America great again. Best wishes for great results tomorrow.

Bill"


Again, it all speaks volumes.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
72. to may people, when someone shows you kindness duirng and after the ilness and death of a loved
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 07:13 PM
Mar 2018

one, you remember it.

Kraft and his late wife and family have done a lot of charitable things with their money.

lending the team jet to fly the families and students from Florida to DC for themarch was another genrous act.



 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
73. I don't know what that has to do with Bill Belicheat
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 09:16 PM
Mar 2018

Except for his hate of the "lying media" like his buddy.

Birds of a feather (and $$$$)

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
19. Just erased
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:02 PM
Mar 2018

All the hate I had for him. He's starting fresh in my book, actually with a few extra positive points!

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
24. Kraft finally does the right thing...
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:25 PM
Mar 2018

...and he deserves credit for it.

If we can blast him for being an asshole Trump supporter, we should praise him when he goes out of his way to make a favorable social statement by putting his money (in this case, plane) where his mouth is.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
31. This reminds me of the old sayings:
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 08:08 PM
Mar 2018

"Don't look a gift horse in the mouth"

and

"A broken clock is right two times a day".

I'm a Hawks fan, but I'll give Kraft a pass on this, as long as the ball is properly inflated.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
33. I sure don't follow this stuff closely, but I live in the Boston area....
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 08:20 PM
Mar 2018

... and I remember seeing an article at some point that said that either Kraft or Belichik was a registered Democrat and was positive re Trump because Trump was nice to him when his wife was sick/died.... Does this ring bells with anyone???

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
54. Kraft and Kerry are chummy too.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:45 PM
Mar 2018

Maybe his friendships have nothing to do with politics. Ever considered that?

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
56. Kraft is on the billionaires side, not ours.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:08 AM
Mar 2018

I did consider what you suggest, in detail, in this post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210188437

There I point out that I was and am a big Pats fan. But Kraft doesn't care about me and you. Sure, he's chummy with Kerry. But when push comes to shove, Kraft's loyalty is to billionaires. Not us.

And this pic is a little unfair, as Kraft only met Putin once or twice. But it does indicate that there is a class of worldwide billionaires that sees themselves as friends regardless of their origin country. And they're all out to screw the little guy - in the US, the UK (Australia) or Russia.
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
60. Guys like Kraft cover their bases
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 02:57 AM
Mar 2018

They have no politics other than keeping their tax shelters and you do that by gladhanding anyone in power.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
63. Exactly. And that tax-cut-over-all mentality harms america
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 08:52 AM
Mar 2018

That mentality is the KEY problem with America, as billionaires fund propaganda - hate and racism and identity politics - to get votes for their tax cuts.

Kraft is part of that, otherwise he would cut ties with Murdoch.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
61. So youre saying hes friends with Trump because he actually likes him?
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 02:59 AM
Mar 2018

That’s not really better, dude.....

hay rick

(7,607 posts)
38. Does Kraft support a ban of assault-style weapons?
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 08:39 PM
Mar 2018

In Florida, Rick Scott had a couple Parkland family members at the signing of the "Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Act." Their presence lent credibility to a bill which banned bump stocks, raised the minimum age to purchase guns from 18 to 21, added waiting periods, added some mental health regulations, and strengthened school security. The school security component was deliberately underfunded to provide an incentive for school districts to adopt another program created in the legislation- arming teachers and other school employees. The bill did nothing to limit sales of assault-style weapons or high-capacity magazines and nothing to strengthen background checks or address the gun show loophole.

The families that participated in the Florida photo op settled for less than half a loaf- far less. My concern is that Kraft, and others like him, will offer to help as a means of peeling off more Parkland families from the fight for truly meaningful reform.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
44. Kraft supports destroying govt to cut taxes on the rich
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 09:27 PM
Mar 2018

And like most GOP-allied billionaires he is willing to support identity politics and hate to get votes for tax cuts. That’s why Kraft is partially responsible. His support for gun hatemongering helps the NRA.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
43. Patriot owner Kraft is tight with anti-American Murdoch
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 09:25 PM
Mar 2018



Kraft is a billionaire whose interests align with the most corrosive anti-American force in existence today- the right wing propaganda machine of Rupert Murdoch.

Kraft is right with Murdoch. His donations go to the GOP and support the NRA. Kraft is not a friend of average Americans.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
57. Kraft and Murdoch are very tight - last Pats game I went to Murdoch was in the owners' box
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:09 AM
Mar 2018

Any person who is tight with Murdoch is not on the side of America or middle-class Americans. Murdoch is the single most corrosive anti-American force of the past 4 decades.

Mosby

(16,305 posts)
58. Putin likes super bowl rings
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 02:40 AM
Mar 2018

Back in 2005 Patriots owner Robert Kraft was in Russia when a funny thing happened: Russian president Vladimir Putin stole his $25,000 Super Bowl XXXIX ring. Actually for the past eight years, Kraft had let everyone believe he gave the ring to Putin as a gift, but the truth came out this week: Putin stole it -- or took it without asking if 'stole' is too strong of a word for you.

"I took out the ring and showed it to [Putin], and he put it on and he goes, 'I can kill someone with this ring,'" Kraft said at an event this week, via the New York Post. "I put my hand out and he put it in his pocket, and three KGB guys got around him and walked out."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-robert-kraft-vladimir-putin-stole-my-super-bowl-ring/

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
64. Yes, that shows Putins autocratic personality
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 08:55 AM
Mar 2018

For autocrats, everything is about power and dominance.

Putin took the ring to show he could. To show that he is more powerful than Kraft. And Kraft had to lie down and take it. That’s the way autocrats like Putin and Trump and the Koches and Mercer and the other GOP donor billionaires (who spend their billions on propaganda to increase their wealth, screwing us) think.

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