Trump has reiterated his line item veto request on twitter

[oberliner]

Link to tweet

I bet we see some proposed legislation soon.

Paul Ryan has expressed interest in the idea in the recent past.

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/02/line-item-veto-considered-by-congress-072605

[Kingofalldems]

1. Oops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_v._City_of_New_York

[ProfessorGAC]

3. More Idiocy From An Idiot

And nobody there knew this?

[oberliner]

10. Legislation was proposed (in a bipartisan fashion) in 2009 and 2012 for line-item veto

In spite of this SC ruling.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Sorry. Not a good try there.

[oberliner]

15. Here's Paul Ryan himself proposing it in 2011

Line-item veto would help slash wasteful spending
By Paul Ryan

In Wisconsin, congressional leaders have a long tradition of putting partisanship aside to solve problems. In recent years, I’ve upheld this tradition by teaming with Janesville native and former Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold to advance legislation providing the president with a line-item veto to cut wasteful spending from the federal government’s bloated budget.

It’s a straightforward concept that has received bipartisan support, and I was encouraged to introduce it again earlier this week with Maryland Rep. Chris Van Hollen, the ranking Democratic member on the House Budget Committee.

https://budget.house.gov/op-ed/270830/

If he could propose it then, why couldn't he propose it now? Especially with Trump asking him to?

[Kingofalldems]

20. You seem to be arguing for the line item veto.

Maybe I am wrong.

[oberliner]

22. No, I'm saying Congress may propose it since he is pushing for it and Ryan has supported it before

But maybe not.

Personally, I'm not a fan - but it could work out for us once we get a Democrat back in the White House (if it does actually ending up passing and being constitutionally valid).

Some Democrats I respect like Russ Feingold have supported the idea while others have not. To be honest, I'd need to do more research on the subject.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. And It Passed?

No. People with bad ideas propose legislation that is DOA all the time.

[oberliner]

23. It passed the House

House Passes Line-Item Veto Bill

On February 8, the House approved legislation to allow the President to eliminate specific items from appropriations bill ― otherwise known as line-item veto authority. The authority is one that Presidents of both parties have long sought but ultimately failed to obtain. (See the September 1998 issue of Supreme Court Debates titled “The Line Item Veto ― The President, the Congress, and the Constitution.”)

H.R. 3521, the Expedited Legislative Line-Item Veto and Rescissions Act, introduced by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul D. Ryan (WI-R) and the panel’s top Democrat, Representative Chris Van Hollen (MD-D), passed the House by a bipartisan vote of 254 to 173.

The Obama Administration, which had requested the authority, endorsed the bill in a February 6 Statement of Administration Policy, saying that it would eliminate unnecessary spending and discourage waste.

http://congressionaldigest.com/house-passes-line-item-veto-bill/#gsc.tab=0

[SergeStorms]

26. Trump has never really cared much.....

for the Constitution, and I don't see him changing his stripes now. Do you think Putin has to follow any stinking Constitutional laws? Dictators don't abide by Constitutions. They make their own rules, and that's Trump in a nutshell (or so he likes to think).

Hopefully, by the time another budget comes around Trump will have a new job: pushing a broom around a prison, wearing a nice, orange jumpsuit.

[ProfessorGAC]

27. Fingers Crossed! (nt)

[oberliner]

4. That's why the 2009 and 2012 proposals were tweaked a bit

McCain/Feingold proposed legislation in 2009 and then Ryan and company proposed legislation in 2012 that they said would hold up constitutionally. They were different in a few significant ways than the Clinton v New York legislation.

[Arazi]

2. It's been ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS in 98 iirc

It's a Bolton/Ryan dream tho to figure out a way around that

[oberliner]

7. From 2012: "Supporters say the bill has been written to meet constitutional standards."

Supporters say the bill has been written to meet constitutional standards. They say that while the president can propose items for rescission, or elimination, Congress must then vote on the revised spending package and then the president must sign what is in effect a new bill.

Under the proposal, the president has 45 days within the enactment of a spending bill to send a special message to Congress proposing cuts to any amount of discretionary, or non-entitlement, spending. Legislation to consider the proposed cuts would move quickly to the House and Senate floors for automatic up-or-down votes with no amendments.

The White House, in a statement, said it "strongly supports" passage of the bill, praising it for "helping to eliminate unnecessary spending and discouraging waste." It said the bill was similar to a line-item veto proposal that Obama sent to Congress in May, 2010.

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/02/line-item-veto-considered-by-congress-072605

[Wounded Bear]

28. They don't like it when a Dem has the pen...

[atreides1]

5. They would have to amend the US Constitution, first!!!

https://www.thoughtco.com/presidents-cannot-have-line-item-veto-3322132


The Constitution's Presentment Clause cited by the Supreme Court spells out the basic legislative process by declaring that any bill, before being presented to the president for his or her signature, must have been passed by both the Senate and the House.

In using the line-item veto to delete individual measures, the president is actually amending bills, a legislative power granted exclusively to Congress by the Constitution.

In the court's majority opinion, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote: "there is no provision in the Constitution that authorizes the president to enact, to amend or to repeal statutes."

The court also held that the line-item veto violated the principles of the "separation of powers" between the legislative, executive and judicial branches of the federal government.

[oberliner]

8. No, they wouldn't

They would just need to tweak the proposal so that it would meet constitutional standards - which they supposedly did in 2009 and 2012 - just couldn't get 60 votes in the Senate (it passed the House overwhelmingly).

[Tatiana]

6. Thank your Republican friends for clarifying that the LIV is unconstitutional.

Is he really isolated and winging it?

Has no one told him?

Is there anyone in the West Wing that knows the basics about American government?

[oberliner]

9. Only that version

There have been other versions proposed since that have garnered support from Congress - though not quite enough to become law.

[Tatiana]

13. I guess he is encouraging them to keep tweaking it until they can get a version that passes?

I can't decide if this is more Trump Theater or if he really wants a LIV to do something specific for Putin.

[oberliner]

16. Well I think Trump wants it so that he would have more power

But it is something that past presidents have supported as well, including Obama.

President Obama seeks new version of line-item veto

As part of what the White House called a campaign to crack down on wasteful government spending, President Obama on Monday asked Congress to grant him new powers to slice lawmakers' pet projects from congressionally approved spending bills.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/24/AR2010052403836.html

[poboy2]

12. I think half of his brain farts are ideas he gets from his twitter feed.

Does anyone have a comprehensive list that we know he 'follows'?
Someone should monitor his intake.
I really think the conspiracy nuts and alt right people he must 'follow' are spitballing their vomit ideas.

[oberliner]

17. Fox and Friends

That is his primary source of ideas. And whoever is on Hannity.

[poboy2]

19. Yes, I'd say thats about 80% of it. But his intake includes

higher octane nuttery at times. Alex jones, Jerome Corsi type intake. He throws out some one liners on things on twitter that I can tell come from a pure alt-right place.

[oberliner]

25. True

He does like those memes of CNN getting run over by trains and whatnot.

[Angry Dragon]

14. Trump is an egotistical low self-esteem racist bully

[oberliner]

18. Agreed on all counts

But a line item veto could be a good thing once we get a Democrat back in the White House.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

24. He's fat, bald, ugly, and smells funny, too.

[Mc Mike]

29. He has issues.