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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:03 AM Jul 2012

Typical Mo Dowd---she simply can't help herself.

"But if we’re going to have someone who’s removed, always struggling to connect and emote, why not stick with the president we already have?

Better the android you know than the android you don’t know".


Mo Dowd in a nutshell: She writes a pretty good piece about Mitt, and then she fucks it up with this smack at Obama.

Sorry Mo--- Obama is anything but errrrr "removed".

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/dowd-mitts-olympic-meddle.html?_r=1&hp
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Typical Mo Dowd---she simply can't help herself. (Original Post) trumad Jul 2012 OP
we can beat mitt, but can we beat mitt AND the media....? don't know. spanone Jul 2012 #1
Did Rupert Murdoch help out Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #2
murdoch doesn't own the ny times as far as I know does he? The wall street journal yes, but I am still_one Jul 2012 #6
the Post Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #18
no problem, just wondering if something happened that I wasn't aware of /nt still_one Jul 2012 #29
She gone from cuttingly clever to viciously bitter lunatica Jul 2012 #3
here shtick is all about look how clever I am.... WCGreen Jul 2012 #45
After the ny times helped push us into Iraq based on a lie through judy miller, ny times is just still_one Jul 2012 #4
The NY Times will never get another penny from me as long as I live until and unless coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #23
Right Mo DemocracyInaction Jul 2012 #5
Beg to differ. She's one of the few at The Times for whom I still have any remaining respect. leveymg Jul 2012 #7
You sure didn'tad her during the Gore years. trumad Jul 2012 #9
That's just Dowd the political characterturist, at work. leveymg Jul 2012 #12
Just head to the Daily Howler--- type in Dowd in the search engine... trumad Jul 2012 #14
Went to the Archives - Google won't digest the search term, "Maureen Dowd" leveymg Jul 2012 #16
Here ya go. trumad Jul 2012 #17
Okay, DH is on Blogspot now. leveymg Jul 2012 #19
Somersby is one of the best writers I've ever read on the nets. And I mean ever. trumad Jul 2012 #22
He was Gore's roommate at Harvard. Never said loyalty to friends isn't a good thing leveymg Jul 2012 #27
Really? trumad Jul 2012 #37
If you're accusing Dowd of being a secret agent of the GOP, I doubt it. She just doesn't like leveymg Jul 2012 #39
Wrong--- trumad Jul 2012 #46
Somerby does have a hard time hfojvt Jul 2012 #24
yeah, better to have shrub, who presented himself as humble and ordinary. unblock Jul 2012 #30
You know, the One You'd Want To Have A Beer With . . . hatrack Jul 2012 #36
at the end of the day, the only thing they really have to sell is greed. unblock Jul 2012 #40
She doesn't seem to know how to LIKE a President. Greybnk48 Jul 2012 #8
That's one of her virtues. leveymg Jul 2012 #10
yeah, that's MoDo. Fighting for the little people hfojvt Jul 2012 #25
Mostly, she's just bored BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #32
I think she's trapped in a dying medium. leveymg Jul 2012 #35
If she actually stood for something, she'd be more relevant BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #41
Perhaps, Dorothy Parker isn't the one you want on a lifeboat when you're not sure of rescue. leveymg Jul 2012 #43
Well put nt BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #44
I find Dowd endlessly fascinated by herself. kwassa Jul 2012 #48
android.. sure..... lets go with that Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #11
thank you for this magical thyme Jul 2012 #31
We should start faxing these pics, one at a time, to Dowd's office. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #33
For me it's a love/hate relationship reading her articles. Like one minute she pats southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #13
Which in my MHO---makes her a bad writer.... trumad Jul 2012 #15
Bingo! I'm sick of the "Fair and Balanced" schtick. Greybnk48 Jul 2012 #20
The Repubs cans say the earth is flat... trumad Jul 2012 #21
Precisely. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #38
wait -- obama's an al green-singing, basketball-playing, joke-cracking android? unblock Jul 2012 #26
I recall the media claiming Obama was too charismatic, too empathetic ... now he's an Andriod. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #28
Man-hater, pure and simple. Nt PCIntern Jul 2012 #34
That too, IMO n/t Greybnk48 Jul 2012 #42
Yeah, I thought it was a great piece until I got to the smack on Obama. WTF? mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #47
She has the maturity of an inmature high school girl One of the 99 Jul 2012 #49

still_one

(92,114 posts)
6. murdoch doesn't own the ny times as far as I know does he? The wall street journal yes, but I am
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:09 AM
Jul 2012

unaware that he bought the times

still_one

(92,114 posts)
4. After the ny times helped push us into Iraq based on a lie through judy miller, ny times is just
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jul 2012

another rag that try to portray themselves as better than the rest, they aren't



 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
23. The NY Times will never get another penny from me as long as I live until and unless
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jul 2012

they do the following in the Sunday edition:

Publish a front-page two-column above-the-fold apology to the people of Iraq and of the world for their role in propagandizing for the war

and (of equal importance)

Publish a front-page two-column above-the fold manifesto for an indictment of the Bush Junta for war crimes.

Oherwise, I hope the NYTimes goes fucking bankrupt.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
7. Beg to differ. She's one of the few at The Times for whom I still have any remaining respect.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:10 AM
Jul 2012

Sorry she isn't devout enough.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
9. You sure didn'tad her during the Gore years.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:12 AM
Jul 2012

She parroted the Ring Wing meme on Gore more than anyone.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
12. That's just Dowd the political characterturist, at work.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:20 AM
Jul 2012

Dowd wrote that Democratic candidate "Al Gore is so feminized and diversified and ecologically correct that he's practically lactating", while referring to the Democratic party as the "mommy party". Frank Zappa made similar comments about Tipper.

Years later, she said, "I was just teasing him a little bit because he was so earnest and he could be a little righteous and self important. That’s not always the most effective way to communicate your ideas, even if the ideas themselves are right. I mean, certainly his ideas were right but he himself was – sometimes – a pompous messenger for them." Who can argue with that?

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
14. Just head to the Daily Howler--- type in Dowd in the search engine...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:28 AM
Jul 2012

and you'll never think of Dowd the same way again.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
16. Went to the Archives - Google won't digest the search term, "Maureen Dowd"
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jul 2012
Google
Sorry...
We're sorry...

... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
See Google Help for more information.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
19. Okay, DH is on Blogspot now.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jul 2012

To tell you the truth, I didn't notice the changeover. But, I looked, and what I found was snide, unrelentingly intolerant of difference, and not a trace of a sense of humor.

And, I'm talking about DailyHowler.

For instance, take this little tid-bit:

Truth to tell, Dowd never let up with the earth tones. In 2006, to cite one example, she fell off her meds once again:

DOWD (5/24/06): Enter Ozone Woman

Al Gore must want to punch Hillary Clinton right through the hole in the ozone layer.

At the National Press Club here yesterday, the New York senator finally took a passionate stand. After giving a courteous nod to her old rival Al as ''a committed visionary on global warming,'' she purloined his issue and his revolution, going his Earth Tones in the Balance one better by wearing a blinding yellow pantsuit that looked as if it could provide solar power to all of Tennessee.

Clinton had spoken about climate change. Inside Dowd’s degenerating brain, it was time to talk earth tones again!


That really only points out the futility of an inferior talent criticizing its betters. We'll have to disagree on this subject.
 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
22. Somersby is one of the best writers I've ever read on the nets. And I mean ever.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jul 2012

He ripped the shit out of Dowd during the Gore years and for very good reasons.

Many many times she took right wing talking points and used them in her pieces on Gore.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. He was Gore's roommate at Harvard. Never said loyalty to friends isn't a good thing
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jul 2012

or that Somersby's a bad writer. Just that Dowd is a better writer - but, that doesn't mean that I can't disagree with both on some things, while still respecting their obvious talents and intelligence.

As for Gore, I voted for him on multiple occasions-- by the standards of most American politicians, he's a visionary thinker -- but rarely connected with him emotionally, which tells me he lacks something as a politician, which is not a good thing for him, given his chosen line of work.

Clinton, both of them (c. 1992), and Obama (c.2008), I adored. Supremely gifted, all of them. But, over time my feelings for them have faded, while my political views haven't changed much, merely becoming more disillusioned with the promise of change and hope for the power of gifted leadership. That may tell you more about me than them.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
37. Really?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jul 2012

He lays out the facts over and over about Mo and you push that off because he was a roommate of Gore?

Facts--Facts---Facts.... all archived from Mo's own words.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
39. If you're accusing Dowd of being a secret agent of the GOP, I doubt it. She just doesn't like
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jul 2012

American politicians of either party, very much. Did she find Gore pompous and oozing self-importance, making him an easy target for drubbing? Of course. Did she savage the Boy King and War President? Constantly. Does she find Obama a bit robotic in his delivery, sometimes. She isn't the first to take notice of that. Is any of that unfair? Perhaps.

Maureen Dowd is an opinion columnist of a particular and disappearing kind. She makes picking on political figures an art form, and she's polymorphously perverse about it.

But, she is entertaining, even if she is bound to offend someone. It's what she does.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
46. Wrong---
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jul 2012

Mo Dowd is takes what she hears at cocktails parties and translates them into her errr opinion pieces.

Gore's oozing self importance? Tell us how you really feel.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
24. Somerby does have a hard time
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:25 AM
Jul 2012

finding anything funny about 8 years of President George W. Bush. Nor how Dowd helped to make that happen with her "humor".

I'm not sure how you think that snip proves the massive talent of Dowd. That she uses her forum to turn a discussion about a serious issue into jokes about clothing. Global warming? Haw, haw, haw, a yellow pantsuit, and earth tones. You know, a bullshit meme that the M$M used to help put George W. Bush in the White House. What could be funnier?

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
36. You know, the One You'd Want To Have A Beer With . . .
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:11 PM
Jul 2012

Except you couldn't, because he was an angry dry-drunk.

Now we're confronted with the spectacle of someone you couldn't have a beer with - or a cup of coffee, or glass of ice tea, or even a Coke.

That's in addition to not wanting to have a beer with him.

Wonder how they'll spin that into his all-American ordinariness?

unblock

(52,166 posts)
40. at the end of the day, the only thing they really have to sell is greed.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jul 2012

sadly, history (and the republican party in particular) has proven that greed only needs a thin disguise.
most people will buy it every time.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
8. She doesn't seem to know how to LIKE a President.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:10 AM
Jul 2012

I quit reading her years ago. She's always off balance/not quite right.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
25. yeah, that's MoDo. Fighting for the little people
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jul 2012

I did find it to be odd, how she worked so hard to elect Bush, and then had nothing nice to say about the "Boy King".

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
32. Mostly, she's just bored
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

You're kidding yourself if you think she's acting out of any principle.

If anyone struggles to connect with the common man, it's MoDo. She fancies herself as some sort of latter day Dorothy Parker. Except the jokes aren't really funny and fewer people are listening all the time.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
35. I think she's trapped in a dying medium.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jul 2012

There's probably not much of an audience left in a polarized country for a humorist in a glass tower who sees it all as absurd.

The paper she writes for has lost its luster and pretense of being above the fray. Nobody buys the "of record" and "objectivity" and "bipartisanship" bullshit anymore. It may have worked once, until most of America below the 44th Floor ceased to work.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
41. If she actually stood for something, she'd be more relevant
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jul 2012

She got lost in the gender-related embroidery of politics a long time ago. Style over substance...there's an argument for it, but not much of one and only when times are good. The shitstorm has hit and she's still talking about the sitcom. I agree that her platform is diminished, but she has kind of pissed away her talent.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
43. Perhaps, Dorothy Parker isn't the one you want on a lifeboat when you're not sure of rescue.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jul 2012

The mood of America today is more the wreck of the Titanic than an afternoon at the bar of the Algonquin Hotel. Maybe another time, another place for such a free-range acerbic wit.





kwassa

(23,340 posts)
48. I find Dowd endlessly fascinated by herself.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:35 PM
Jul 2012

Nothing else seems important to her.

I also stopped reading her years ago. That kind of narcissism is just uninteresting. It is a mystery why she has a column at all.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
31. thank you for this
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jul 2012

First thing I thought of were his pix with kids.

Do the world a favor...send those pix to Maureen. Even send a couple showing Mitt with kids. The contrast is so stunning. Maybe that will help her understand the difference between an android and a real, live human who's comfortable in his own skin.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
13. For me it's a love/hate relationship reading her articles. Like one minute she pats
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:21 AM
Jul 2012

a person on the back and the next she is sticking a knife in the back. With her it's a no win situation. Yet I think thats how she wants to come off. She is a good writer.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
15. Which in my MHO---makes her a bad writer....
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jul 2012

A gratuitous last minute smack like that makes her no better than these new fangled MSM'ers who think they have to be fair and balanced.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
20. Bingo! I'm sick of the "Fair and Balanced" schtick.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jul 2012

That's just a tactic to confuse people. Gotta hate em all or love them all! Bullshit!! Someone is right, someone is wrong. Obama is warm and personable by anyone's standards, and Romney is not. That's a fact, it's not biased. We've seen it over and over.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
21. The Repubs cans say the earth is flat...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jul 2012

The MSM will say--- Democrats disagree that the earth is flat, Who is right, who is wrong? Details at 6.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
28. I recall the media claiming Obama was too charismatic, too empathetic ... now he's an Andriod.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

What a nitwit.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
47. Yeah, I thought it was a great piece until I got to the smack on Obama. WTF?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:57 PM
Jul 2012

Yes, he's not Bill Clinton, but he's real...and funny...and empathic.

I wonder whether her editors made her change the piece?

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