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Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

Q: What do we do after the BLUE WAVE?

A: WE FLIP THE ECONOMIC PYRAMID

Q: How do we flip the economic pyramid?

A: We return to the New Deal, which worked amazingly well. We get serious about a progressive tax which means tax the upper brackets a lot more and the lower brackets less. THEN we (smartly) allocate funds for physical and intellectual infrastructure roads, schools, and environmental protections. We create the conditions for a robust PEOPLE's ECONOMY. Cultivate a healthy emergent system. It's really a traditional and highly effective idea with new biological theories to support it. See E.O. Wilson on emergent systems.

Q: What's a people's economy?

A: It's not one where corporations get all the concessions and tax breaks and everyone else gets crumbs and have to compete against those propped up behemoths. In a people's economy small business has leverage again and "small" includes both a small family restaurant or plumbing outfit all the way down to an individual getting a state-funded nursing degree or electrician's license.

Return America to the Americans! Thank ALL progressive Democrats for reminding us that we abandoned what was once working in this country: the New Deal.

Same old? Hell yeah! It worked! Let's get ready to do it again but better, with many lessons learned since the 1930s about INCLUDING women, the LGBTQ community, and all ethnicities and religious (and non-religious) persuasions.

I'm sick of doing three jobs. The pyramid must, and WILL be flipped.

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Reply Q: What do we do after the BLUE WAVE? (Original post)
DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 OP
applegrove Mar 2018 #1
ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #3
Blue_true Mar 2018 #2
DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #5
thbobby Mar 2018 #11
Beartracks Mar 2018 #4
Liberal In Texas Mar 2018 #6
Skittles Mar 2018 #7
Hekate Mar 2018 #8
DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #18
betsuni Mar 2018 #20
Hekate Mar 2018 #24
Matthew28 Mar 2018 #9
PatrickforO Mar 2018 #15
RainCaster Mar 2018 #10
C Moon Mar 2018 #12
LBM20 Mar 2018 #17
Steven Maurer Mar 2018 #13
PatrickforO Mar 2018 #14
DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #21
LBM20 Mar 2018 #16
oberliner Mar 2018 #19
DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #22
oberliner Mar 2018 #23
DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #27
MyNameGoesHere Mar 2018 #25
Loki Liesmith Mar 2018 #26

Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:38 AM

1. The Orange Crush?

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:40 AM

3. Oh my! I love it! nt

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:40 AM

2. Fix Dams too.

Dams are vitally important for locales all across the country. Most of them are in seriously poor repair.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:49 AM

5. Dams, and also bridges, and also new voting systems with a paper trail!

Flip the pyramid and rebuild the people's infrastructure to support BOTH a robust people's economy and a robust democracy.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 02:24 AM

11. Make election days holidays

Automatic voter registration. Eliminate gerrymandering and electoral college. Enforce equal access to voting stations.

Restoring faith in the value of the vote is a necessity. I live in Texas. Why should my vote for a Democrat President mean nothing? I vote, but it often seems like a lost cause. Until we can motivate all to vote, democracy is a sham.

Prosecute criminal politicians. I also completely agree with your suggestions, a paper trail is badly needed.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:48 AM

4. That's easy: keep voting. Every. Time.

One blue wave is good. Another after that? Great. And again, 2 years later? Awesome.

Keep those blue waves coming ashore.

Surf's up.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:58 AM

6. Undo....Rebuild.

Pick up the pieces. This is what Democrats always do. The repubs screw things up and we have to clean up after the mess.

This time it's going to be pretty bad, worst in history.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:09 AM

7. repukes will still have Russia, CA clone, gerrymandering and voter suppression

nothing is for sure

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:36 AM

8. GOTV now, and don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

Thank you.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:07 AM

18. Somehow you must realize that a party with ideas gets the votes?

Yes, GOTV. ...And THIS is how it's done. When you're going door to door this summer you can answer the question "who are these Democrats and why should I vote for them?"

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:13 AM

20. Are you saying Democrats don't have ideas, nobody knows who Democrats are and why they

should vote for them?

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Response to betsuni (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:14 PM

24. Some days you really wonder

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:43 AM

9. Some ideas

1. Enforce anti-trust on giant corporations. This would allow for more competition in industry.
2. Rebuild the unions and roll back "right-to-work laws". Stronger unions = fairer pay for the workers.
3. Think out a way to get the wealth down from the one percent to the masses.
4. Invest in education. Free college for starters.
5. Invest in science. Fusion, green energy and space exploration!
6. Single payer healthcare. Healthcare shouldn't ruin anyones life.

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Response to Matthew28 (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:26 AM

15. Force corporate charters to expand fiduciary responsibility to the workers, the consumers,

the community and the globe. That would help reduce corporate excesses.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 02:15 AM

10. Repair the damage the GOP has done

Habeas Corpus
War on Drugs
Veterans
Healthcare for all
Women's health care
Elder care
Trade policy
Guantonamo
Environment
Dreamers
DACA
Infrastructure
College tuition
Guns and the NRA
Individual privacy
TSA
Labor unions

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 03:17 AM

12. Don't hold your breath. NOTHING has been done to protect our voting.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:34 AM

17. Let's not be paranoid. Conor Lamb won in deep red PA.

 

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 03:24 AM

13. Bleah...

I worked on trying to raise taxes on the top half of one percent of richest, mostly international conglomerates, in Oregon -- and it failed.

Don't imagine for a second that just because people vote out Trump sycophants, they're actually for what you're advocating for.


Let me suggest that we start instead with working for a national adoption of Oregon's vote by mail system, which will make it much easier for busy poor people to vote. Even then they may be fooled by oligarchs, but it will be harder to do it consistently.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:25 AM

14. That's my kind of talk!

Flip the pyramid.

A new New Deal.

YES.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:15 AM

21. THANK YOU!!! That's movement energy!

And some of the ideas in circulation (here and elsewhere), gives substance and endurance.

We must keep BOTH the ideas and the energy moving forward. One reinforces the other.

BTW, the fact that fair wealth distribution is being tried at all is a STEP in the right direction. Discouragement is for losers. Only dreamers win at all.

GOTV loves GOTI (get out the ideas)!

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:33 AM

16. Slow down folks. At the national level Trump will still be there, and we won't be veto proof. But...

 

With Trump as president and no veto proof supermajority, there won't be a ton that can be done legislatively.

However, what can be done is to keep Trump in check, and he will be forced to get sane or he will get NOTHING done.

More change can happen at state and local levels. The wave must be a Tsunami at every level everywhere.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:08 AM

19. No thank you

 

It's not 1933.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:20 AM

22. Sounds like you're doin' fine and can't conceptualize what the majority are enduring.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #22)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:46 AM

23. Sorry - my response was snarky

 

I don't mean to belittle the idea of addressing incoming inequality. I guess I was just thinking more strategically in terms of electoral strategy. I do agree with you that something must be done to help address the systemic problems you outline.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 03:53 AM

27. People vote for Democrats when they feel in their bones that they are on the people's side

That means NOT being for big money, monopolies, big foundation fundraisers, the old guard, etc. It's been proven we can raise money and raise hell without our hands tied by Wall Street. People are HUNGRY for grass roots politicians of a Democratic persuasion.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:23 PM

25. My first thought is to round em up

and toss them in re-education camps. But that's just my mean vindictive side talking. Maybe I will just go for banning membership in the treasonous republican party. Although the camps would be nice..

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:26 PM

26. PARTY DOWN

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