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RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:04 AM Mar 2018

Why the hell is Trump always called President Trump, and President Obama was just called Obama?

I hear this all the time on MSM, not often do I hear President Trump just called Trump. I used to think it was just me listening for what I wanted to hear ... but IMO it now seems to be a distinct pattern. I know, silly discussion, but it's one more bias IMO by MSM.

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Why the hell is Trump always called President Trump, and President Obama was just called Obama? (Original Post) RKP5637 Mar 2018 OP
In a word, racism! chuckstevens Mar 2018 #1
Yep, I think that's behind some of it. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #5
Thats a rhetorical question, right? Orangepeel Mar 2018 #2
Perhaps it's your perception PJMcK Mar 2018 #3
I am the same way Ohiogal Mar 2018 #4
Rant away, Ohiogal PJMcK Mar 2018 #8
... probably too illiterate to understand the use of adjectives. Isn't this what Gingrich started ... RKP5637 Mar 2018 #13
I never say "President Trump" PatSeg Mar 2018 #34
Yep, agree! I just call him tRump! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #9
Uh, excuse me, show some RESPECT please Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #29
Often I also use, "The Ass in the White House." n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #33
I do think this one is as much in what we hear as what is said. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2018 #23
In print media, the style is to use the title in the first reference, then Demit Mar 2018 #6
I just love Hanity, Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh! Always fair and truthful!!! RKP5637 Mar 2018 #11
I don't... GetRidOfThem Mar 2018 #7
"It" PJMcK Mar 2018 #10
Yes, definitely an "it!" n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #17
Because MSM talks to far more Republicans than they do Democrats? tanyev Mar 2018 #12
We were just discussing this this morning. Far more republicans often on MSM than RKP5637 Mar 2018 #16
Because they can't say "That Fucking Trump" on teevee? n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #14
Yep, just what many are thinking if not said! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #18
I've never called him President. Atman Mar 2018 #15
Here at home Ohiogal Mar 2018 #19
I always refer to him as the Dotard. comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #20
Prez Obama was the only one to have "President" in his initials. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #21
LOL! Trump is probably called more names than any other president. It's quite a distinction RKP5637 Mar 2018 #25
Repubs are closet Monarchists.They never stopped wanting a king. librechik Mar 2018 #22
Yep, it fits their authoritarian lust! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #26
Ive wondered that myself.....hate that....such disrespect for one of a kennedy Mar 2018 #24
I once worked with a manager that said he never wanted any president that was smarter than RKP5637 Mar 2018 #28
Yep - I notice that over and over malaise Mar 2018 #27
I never use that term of respect for doofus don Motley13 Mar 2018 #30
Because Trump is a single syllable name. Obama is three. FarCenter Mar 2018 #31
I think that someone wanted to control the narative mitch96 Mar 2018 #32

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
3. Perhaps it's your perception
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:10 AM
Mar 2018

Here's a headline from today's NY Times:
"Trump Heads South, Leaving Washington Reeling"

This is the title of a column in the NY Post:
"The Beltway establishment is wrong again: John Bolton is a great pick for Trump"

And this is a column from the National Review:
"Republicans Still Don’t Get Trump"

I agree with you that it can seem like the media are dissing President Obama and certainly Trump and other GOPers do this. As for myself, I will not use the title when referring to Trump. He doesn't even get a "Mr." because he's so despicable.

Ohiogal

(31,987 posts)
4. I am the same way
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:17 AM
Mar 2018

I don't think I have ever said "President Trump" out loud yet, and it pains me to type or or read it.

To me, he is nothing but a fake, a liar, an asshole. He does not deserve the title of POTUS.

One type of disrespect I always seem to notice is that when right wingers say "the Democrat party". It's DEMOCRATIC, assholes!

Sorry for the rant!

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
13. ... probably too illiterate to understand the use of adjectives. Isn't this what Gingrich started ...
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:25 AM
Mar 2018

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
34. I never say "President Trump"
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:00 PM
Mar 2018

or "The President". It is always just "Trump". After he was sworn in, whenever I heard someone on TV say "The President", I thought they were talking about President Obama. Then the ugly truth set in and I remembered.

I take note of the people who don't refer to Trump as "president". It just doesn't fit.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
29. Uh, excuse me, show some RESPECT please
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:26 AM
Mar 2018

he is

CHIEF TRAITOR

and dont ever forget it

I would put a smiley here but you know I am not laughing, but I am agreeing with you ...

In one AVERAGE day he commits more crimes, tells more lies than Obama and Hillary could do in a lifetime, yet they would have been impeached the first day of doing what he does.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
23. I do think this one is as much in what we hear as what is said.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:09 AM
Mar 2018

The name gets said both with and without the title--and sometimes just the title--regardless of who's in office.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
6. In print media, the style is to use the title in the first reference, then
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:19 AM
Mar 2018

just the last name after that. I don't know if that holds for television or radio media. But I doubt it's a matter of blatant bias. Unless you are listening to Fox and Friends or Rush Limbaugh, etc?

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
12. Because MSM talks to far more Republicans than they do Democrats?
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:25 AM
Mar 2018

And even most of the Democrats they talk to are polite enough to say "President Trump"?

Atman

(31,464 posts)
15. I've never called him President.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:28 AM
Mar 2018

I always make sure to refer to him as "So-called President Trump."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
21. Prez Obama was the only one to have "President" in his initials.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:29 AM
Mar 2018

Many DUers referred to him as "PBO", using a letter for the title "President". I think there was some aversion to acknowledging his middle name "Hussein", or he would have been called "BHO" (Like FDR, JFK, DDE, HRC, ETC).

Maybe "Hussein" made him sound too Muslim or something.

Trump, of course, doesn't rate reference by initials. Nobody says "DJT". There are other names in use.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
22. Repubs are closet Monarchists.They never stopped wanting a king.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:46 AM
Mar 2018

When one of theirs Becomes President he is entitled to all the pomp and circumstance the office confers, and more. If it's a Dem, not so much.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
24. Ive wondered that myself.....hate that....such disrespect for one of
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:16 AM
Mar 2018

the most sincere, classiest, intellectual, intelligent POTUS ever.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
28. I once worked with a manager that said he never wanted any president that was smarter than
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:19 AM
Mar 2018

himself, and he was damn stupid.

malaise

(268,956 posts)
27. Yep - I notice that over and over
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:19 AM
Mar 2018

Word is that he insists he is called President at all times. The deference is even more troubling.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
32. I think that someone wanted to control the narative
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:30 PM
Mar 2018

And it stuck. If MSM just started calling him trump OVER AND OVER AND OVER and never using the word president, that would stick.
Just using a last name is a bit of a putdown. Putting a title to a name is a bit of an elevation.
It's how "they" play the game... Like stating a disgraced republican politician is a democrat. The other is to use defamatory adjectives before the noun.
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