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I admit I like guns. I dont own any now. (Original Post) wasupaloopa Mar 2018 OP
I shake my head a lot about guns, I'm on one end this day and could be juxtaposed Mar 2018 #1
You did not give a reason why you 'like' guns? angstlessk Mar 2018 #2
People have lots of hobbies that make no sense to other. EX500rider Mar 2018 #3
Why are you answering a question to another..wasupaloopa angstlessk Mar 2018 #4
It's a message board, people can respond to posts as they see fit. EX500rider Mar 2018 #5
Off topic, but cats are murderers Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #9
I bet guns kill more people than cats do? angstlessk Mar 2018 #10
Nonsense. Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #12
I do not let my cats out angstlessk Mar 2018 #14
I have no sympathy for cats let out of the house Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #15
There are prey and there are predators...we cannot kill all predators angstlessk Mar 2018 #16
Cats are introduced species Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #17
So are dogs, and they kill more humans than cats.. angstlessk Mar 2018 #18
Wow Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #24
You do realize, that when faced with scientific fact Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #33
No good science says they should be captured and neutralized angstlessk Mar 2018 #21
Squirrels and mice are indeed wildlife Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #25
Do you feel the same way about people? Crunchy Frog Mar 2018 #23
Ridiculous statement. Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #26
lol eShirl Mar 2018 #28
I grew up around guns. I hunted with my dad. He loaded his own shells and for others. I like wasupaloopa Mar 2018 #11
I am not anti gun..like I would not be anti cat if they killed folk angstlessk Mar 2018 #13
My weapons TEB Mar 2018 #29
I like to use guns for target shooting, been doing it for 50 years and will never stop beachbum bob Mar 2018 #30
My contribution quickesst Mar 2018 #6
Win Egnever Mar 2018 #20
Heh quickesst Mar 2018 #22
I like guns too. I grew up on a ranch. Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #7
I enjoy shooting guns, collecting guns, and having them in case I need them for self-defense. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #8
I owned them and liked them. Decades ago, I got rid of them, and now I despise them... VOX Mar 2018 #19
Too many guns easy access to guns by people who are dangerous... Sancho Mar 2018 #27
Ban assault weapons. Period HopeAgain Mar 2018 #32
I have no problem with banning any particular type of gun... Sancho Mar 2018 #34
I have no problem with people owning guns. I have a problem with assholes owning Squinch Mar 2018 #31

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
2. You did not give a reason why you 'like' guns?
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 07:40 PM
Mar 2018

What a babysitter you liked introduced you to guns?

Why would anyone 'like' guns? Do you 'like' your screwdriver, or your front door key?

Both of them are tools and have specific functions...why choose to 'like' guns?

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
3. People have lots of hobbies that make no sense to other.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 07:45 PM
Mar 2018

Stamps
Cars
StarWars collectibles
Model (boats, cars, planes etc)
Motorcycles
Boats
Scuba
Bennie babies
Film (movies, posters, etc)
Cameras/projectors
etc

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
4. Why are you answering a question to another..wasupaloopa
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 07:59 PM
Mar 2018

I like domestic cats, and if domestic cats went on rampages using their claws to murder thousands of people each year, I would still love cats, but I would have them declawed (It's cruel to declaw cats cause they don't really kill thousands of people each year)

So collect guns, but you 'fix' them so they don't shoot! There ya go, problem solved!

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
5. It's a message board, people can respond to posts as they see fit.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 08:05 PM
Mar 2018

Most people who collect firearms also enjoy target shooting.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
9. Off topic, but cats are murderers
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:38 PM
Mar 2018

They are absolutely destroying wildlife. I trap them at my place and turn them in. I suspect most are euthanasized as they are pretty wild and were dumped and went feral.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
10. I bet guns kill more people than cats do?
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:44 PM
Mar 2018

Cats do kill birds, but ALL my cats are indoors cats.

Destroying wildlife is an exaggeration humans are killing wildlife faster than any cat could hope to!

Hope you have a few traps for humans?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
12. Nonsense.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:15 PM
Mar 2018

You don't like what I said so you deflect. Cats are awful on songbirds. It's not an exaggeration, it's a well documented scientific fact.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
14. I do not let my cats out
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:20 PM
Mar 2018

Are you calling for the eradication of all cats?

We feed feral cats, I will try to put collars with bells on them, if we can catch the cats..even though we put food out they refuse to to allow us to get close.

I will never poison them.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
15. I have no sympathy for cats let out of the house
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:40 PM
Mar 2018

They are vermin and a nuisance to wildlife. Why would you feed them? Good science says they should be trapped and euthanized.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
16. There are prey and there are predators...we cannot kill all predators
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:03 PM
Mar 2018

just cause you like those they prey upon.

Lions and tigers and bears...

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
18. So are dogs, and they kill more humans than cats..
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:17 PM
Mar 2018

but dogs don't kill your precious birds?...just people?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
21. No good science says they should be captured and neutralized
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:39 PM
Mar 2018

Cats also kill rats, mice and squirrels....considered vermin...unless you consider rats, mice and squirrels wildlife?

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
11. I grew up around guns. I hunted with my dad. He loaded his own shells and for others. I like
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:57 PM
Mar 2018

target shooting. Growing up my friends got .22 rifles for Christmas.

Not that it was all a positive experience but I used many different weapons in Vietnam. I had a colt 1911 automatic pistol up a 50 cal machine gun which I had to clean every day. So during most of my formative years guns were a part of my life.


I like old antique guns like Colt single action revolvers and the Winchester 1873 rifle.

I also like model trains and model planes and boats and model cars and real Mustang automobiles.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
13. I am not anti gun..like I would not be anti cat if they killed folk
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:15 PM
Mar 2018

Just wondering why you would just post you like guns today, when a million and more are marching for gun control?

Homes that have guns are more likely to be used against a resident than some intruder.

I did notice you no longer have guns which is something to celebrate.

TEB

(12,840 posts)
29. My weapons
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 07:12 AM
Mar 2018

Are basically for home defense and at times we still target shoot. As for hunting not as much our thirteen year old not really into it. And the older I get I’m more of trout and bass fishing. Several years ago when I ran road we had a lot of worries here as we had a serial rapist. And I taught my wife and then daughters how to shoot. I took plug out of two 12 gauges. And said call 911 and then open up if you ever have to. And we live in rural area thank goodness the need never came. And they caught the rapist.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
30. I like to use guns for target shooting, been doing it for 50 years and will never stop
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 07:27 AM
Mar 2018

but ARs/AKs and all the other military grade weapons have ZERO place in civilian hands. PERIOD

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
7. I like guns too. I grew up on a ranch.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 08:57 PM
Mar 2018

I train hunting dogs. We need some damned sensible gun laws in this country.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
8. I enjoy shooting guns, collecting guns, and having them in case I need them for self-defense.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:06 PM
Mar 2018

The only reason I get rid of them is to sell them.



VOX

(22,976 posts)
19. I owned them and liked them. Decades ago, I got rid of them, and now I despise them...
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:20 PM
Mar 2018

Expensive paperweights. Useless but nevertheless dangerous. Never miss them at all, ever.

I grew up. Sorta, now I collect wristwatches.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
27. Too many guns easy access to guns by people who are dangerous...
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 06:58 AM
Mar 2018

...if there are a zillion guns it would not matter if access and possession were controlled:

People Control, Not Gun Control

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
31. I have no problem with people owning guns. I have a problem with assholes owning
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 07:34 AM
Mar 2018

guns. Too many of those who will swear they are responsible gun owners aren't, and we have ample proof of that every day.

Maybe just a mandatory jail sentence if your gun is used in the commission of a crime or if it accidentally hurts anyone including yourself...

Of course that would require registration and tracking of sales. Its ridiculous that we don't have these things already, but you know what the humpers will say to that. Which is why I eventually get to the, "screw them," attitude whenever this subject comes up.

In the end, their hobby isn't worth anyone's life or limb, and they need to grow the hell up and accept that.

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