Killer Mike --- Turn In Your Berner (Bernie Supporter) Card ASAP!! YOU SELL OUT....

[LovingA2andMI]

This MF'er had the NERVES to try and play the Strong #BlackPanther #WakandaForever Support with his Sick ass "Love For Guns" on NRA TV.

Link to tweet

If You Are On Twitter, DEMAND $$ellout For The NRA $$ "Killer Mike" Turn In His #BernerCard. He Sells His Soul For The Highest Dollar and don't give a S**t about How Many #BlackLives Have Been Killed In America Due To #GunViolence.

[ucrdem]

1. He was very popular here for a time.

Of course most of us didn't know he was a member of the NRA.

https://news.avclub.com/killer-mike-defends-gun-ownership-in-interview-to-nra-t-1824052480

[LovingA2andMI]

2. Obviously...

Bernie did not either. Now that its known, Bernie should DISTANCE HIMSELF 4Ever from "Killer Mike".

[ucrdem]

3. Maybe but what about the hand gesture?

[LovingA2andMI]

4. Umm...

That's not a Gun Hand Gesture. That A "That's My Man" Hand Gesture. #CulturalKnowledgeIsGood4U And hopefully, now, that has changed for Bernie.

[ucrdem]

8. Could be.

Then again it could be both couldn't it? In any case this appears to be something they discussed two years ago.

[Control-Z]

9. I was just about to write that.

Wanted to be sure that I remembered it correctly before posting. I guess I do.

[LovingA2andMI]

40. Umm...

No. Next...

[GaryCnf]

81. I have no defense for KM's NRA bullshit

But just as a matter of bringing back enthusiasm among this party's most loyal by far demographic, you might want to drop the privilegedspeak attitude toward other cultures. We don't need to lose another election by repeating the same mistakes.

[ucrdem]

94. Nov. 16, 2016: 'Killer Mike tells black voters to "stay the fuck home"'

https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/11/killer-mike-tells-black-voters-to-stay-the-fuck-home-if-political-promises-arent-made/

That doesn't sound like bring back enthusiasm.

[GaryCnf]

96. It's not about KM

It's about mainstream Dems who have zero knowledge about black culture giving their spin on hand gestures AT ALL because when you get it wrong it looks like you don't give a **** about us.

[ucrdem]

97. Somebody got it way wrong.

Or maybe he didn't, which is even more disturbing.

[GaryCnf]

98. See my post below

KM has to be f'ing oblivious to sign onto the NRA line. The NRA is as much a white supremacist group as the Aryan Nation. Attack the shit out of him for that. I agree with that.

What I am talking about is a bunch of predominantly white folks talking about gestures they don't know the first thing about to support what is ultimately a bullshit argument that Sanders is weak on gun control. It's not just the argument that is bullshit, though. It's hearing white folks who supposedly want us to enthusiastically support the party talking that same "Look at those g*********s flashing gun signs" crap that we have to listen to from the Jeff Sessions of the world.

[ucrdem]

99. You misread the conversation. No, it's not about KM. nt

[GaryCnf]

103. Oh

I forgot, it's about trying to make the D- NRA rated Sanders look like is "worse" than the A NRA rated Joe Manchin . . . cause "It's all Bernie's fault" and not the fault of Democrats who think black folks don't care when they sit around talking shit about "gang" symbols like they were on the other side and/or forget black issues as soon as the GE campaign begins.

[Jakes Progress]

109. Reference your interpretation.

The group, Run the Jewels, refers to the hand gesture as a fist and gun.

Since that is the performer in the picture, and the gestures come from their album, there is little but wishful thinking or purposeful misdirection in your chastising the poster for his reference to a gun gesture.

Are you unaware of the term "run the jewels" and the context for the album cover that is being copied in the photo op.

I don't care if Bernie wants to try to up his street cred by mimicking the album cover. I care about his voting and financial supporters. But to say that he was just saying "that's my man" is to be oblivious (on purpose or not) to the album and the artist involved.

[GaryCnf]

113. Let me guess, you got out your "urban dictionary"

Tell me, when you see a hammer and a sickle, do you say, "That's the symbol for the intersection between agricultural and industrial labor" (which it technically is) or do you say "That's the symbol for Communism?"

But you want folks to believe that someone who claims that a gesture (which is known to us to say "RtJ" ) is about "guns" OR "fists" isn't saying "Well that what it means in the 'burbs" at the same time and about a hundred times louder?

You can run that spin cycle over and over again, but when you open up the lid it's still going to be the hot wash, hot rinse, chlorine bleach load.

[Jakes Progress]

114. Don't be so snotty. I asked a civil question.

I asked for you to reference your interpretation of the sign. You replied in a thread that (post #4) said the sign Bernie was using was not a gun sign but as a sign for "that's my man". Discussion followed. Then you began accusing those participating as being insensitive and talking about white folks not understanding what the "in" things mean. So I researched. I did not use any urban dictionary site. I mostly referenced several articles and interviews with El-P where he indicated that the cover to that album displayed a sign for a gun and a fist. In other articles about the creation of the album art, the artist, Nick Gazin, concurred.

So I asked you to reference a different interpretation. Perhaps you misread the thread. Perhaps you are just looking for justification for perceived bias where it does not exist. You do not help with the problem by assigning blame where it does not belong. There are obvious and serious problems with relations and the issues of privilege and oppression. Getting testy and tacky on a web site that seeks, with varying levels of success, to address those problems is counterproductive.

The issue was not "white people" saying that things about what other people mean or don't mean. The thread referenced the gesture that Bernie was doing. One said it was the sign for "that's my man". Others indicated that it was the sign for a gun. Yes. They were imitating the cover art that has come to signify "Run the Jewels". But my research indicated that the group and the artist said those signs were for a gun and a fist. Then I asked you if you had a reference to any other interpretation. You took that as a chance to run a rant that has nothing to do with the posts in this thread.

[GaryCnf]

115. Your indignity is duly noted.

[Jakes Progress]

116. As is your avoidance.

[Jakes Progress]

107. I cannot find any reference that supports your statement.

Most, even the links to the group itself, refer to the gesture as a gun and a fist. Most reference it, like the name of the group, as someone being robbed.

If you search for hand gesture for "that's my man", you get a dozen different poses, usually with a thumb pointing or with a straight index finger pointing away (famous meme with Obama.)

Where did you find your "that's my man" interpretation?

[continentalop2]

112. LOL no

It's the logo of Run the Jewels. Literally robbing somebody for their jewelry at gunpoint.

[Kentonio]

13. That hand gesture from both is associated with Run the Jewels

Killer Mikes group.

[R B Garr]

39. Whoa! That hand gesture and posing with an NRA

member are on the wrong side of “issues”. Very interesting, and unfortunate.

[lunamagica]

7. I think Sanders had a responsibility to check the credentials of those who were campaigning for him.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Love that standard... let's apply it to ALL politicians!! (riiighht!!)

[Blue_true]

43. Many attacked Hillary for not divorcing Bill.

So, that standard WAS being applied to some politicians.

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. Hillary and Barack have had more standards applied to them by MANY sides as trump would say

than any and all others in history.

[Blue_true]

42. He was popular with some because he bashed Hillary.

Same with Sarandon and West, if the people are willing to show themselves, I am reasonably confident that some here still support the three.

[ucrdem]

44. Yes that's about the size of it.

The more we find out the more the righteous opposition turns out to be what most of us suspected it was all along.

[Eliot Rosewater]

53. Yes, bashing Hillary is all you needed as credentials for some folks.

[NurseJackie]

100. To this very day it continues. Private citizen Hillary Clinton makes a speech at Rutgers...

... and there are STILL people who organize protests in association with Bernie and Nina's group, "Our Revolution". They're protesting that she's earning money for speaking. Yes, I know... it's shocking: a private citizen earning money. HORRORS!! (These are likely the same people who objected to her book as well. Some even suggested that she should have waited EIGHT or TWELVE years before writing her book "What Happened".) Supposedly, it was cancelled... or just "converted" into a private event or non-affiliated protest. Anyway... idiots. Too emotional. Acting without thinking. It was a stupid idea and the pushback it got was well-deserved.

[Eliot Rosewater]

101. They might get what they THINK they want, and it will of course be a nightmare and

they will be screaming, begging us to fix it.

[WestwardWind]

5. This has been known all along about Killer Mike

I don't know why people are acting like it's new. Not everybody is going to agree on every single issue.

From 2.5 years ago.

[Cha]

10. Obviously killer mike doesn't know what he's talking about..

Link to tweet

[WestwardWind]

23. He seems to know what he's talking about

and said as much 2.5 years ago so I don't get the sudden outrage about this or shock. /shrug

[Cha]

24. No, Killer Mike is an idiot.. saying trump and Hillary

are the same.. that's some serious stupid right there.

More idiocy from killer..

[WestwardWind]

25. ok on these comments yes he is way the hell off

[Cha]

26. Thank you!

[sheshe2]

28. Dear Goddess.

He said he would kick his children out if they protested against his wishes? What a disgusting man, now doing ads for the NRA.

[Cha]

29. From LipstickAlley, she.. Killer Mike Tap Dancing for the NRA

Killer Mikes Thoughts on Bullying on the Anti-Bullying campaign:

"I refused to do an anti-bullying PSA because kids need to fight out their own problems"

He just as stupid as all the rest of the gun nuts. How the f*ck does asking for background checks, age restrictions, and waiting periods for gun purchases suddenly mean that the government is coming to take all your guns away and if you are law abiding citizens and only concerned about safety, why are you scared of having checks and balances in the system?

MOre..
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/killer-mike-tap-dancing-for-the-nra.1502895/

[Me.]

56. Not Solve Their Problems

but fight out their problems. You have described him quite correctly Miss Cha.

[Cha]

64. Hi Me!

What an irresponsible parent..

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

58. What an ass.

"I refused to do an anti-bullying PSA because kids need to fight out their own problems"

Aaah, kids need to fight out their own problems, find THEIR own way to fight yet when his children find a way to protest he threatens to toss them out of HIS house. Fugger.

[Cha]

65. Excellent point, she!

Link to tweet

[Eliot Rosewater]

55. Now isnt Killer Mike only relevant politically because of who latched on to him?

[workinclasszero]

32. What a joke

If that's "progressive" he can shove it!

Hillary hater and values AR-15's over the life of children!

I bet this asshole voted for Trump too!

[Cha]

35. From LipstickAlley, working..

Killer Mikes Thoughts on Bullying on the Anti-Bullying campaign:

"I refused to do an anti-bullying PSA because kids need to fight out their own problems"

He just as stupid as all the rest of the gun nuts. How the f*ck does asking for background checks, age restrictions, and waiting periods for gun purchases suddenly mean that the government is coming to take all your guns away and if you are law abiding citizens and only concerned about safety, why are you scared of having checks and balances in the system?

MOre..
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/killer-mike-tap-dancing-for-the-nra.1502895/

[workinclasszero]

37. How much is the NRA paying this puppet anyway?

I pity his poor kids having a creep like this as a father.

[Cha]

38. that's what everyone wants

to know!

[obamanut2012]

46. He denounced the marches yesterday and denounced the Parkland kids

He mocked the walkouts. He says he has the right ti own ANY weapon manufactured.

I'm a gun owner. My niece thinks I shouldn't be able to have a shotgun that holds more than one shell. We disagree on this. We agree on other gun control issues. That is disagreeing about a gun issue.

Killer Mike is being scummy and disgusting on this issue, literally WORE than what Santorum said. Quit handwaving his statements and beliefs.

Your non-concern is noted.

[uponit7771]

95. Yep, in the end the gumpers want unfettered access to all weapons so they can shoot at who they want

[jberryhill]

6. Well, who would want to be demoted to Serious Wounder Mike?

[Squinch]

15. Or "Gave him quite a bump but he's ok now" Mike?

[pnwmom]

11. I think his role all along was to diminish support for Hillary, first in the primary

and then in the general.

He just made a pretense of supporting Bernie.

[cwydro]

12. Bernie sure has some great fans.

Susan Sarandon, Killer Mike....

Yup.

[workinclasszero]

33. Yeah...

How about that?

[Cha]

14. More from Killer..

[yardwork]

18. He told his kids that he would kick them out if they participate in a walk out?

How progressive. Threaten to disown your kids because they disagree with you about gun policy. Breathtakingly excellent parenting.

[Cha]

19. That's what he's saying.. thinks he's

a big shot.. defending dana loesch. They're Desperate.

Twitter is all over it.

ETA..

He just as stupid as all the rest of the gun nuts. How the f*ck does asking for background checks, age restrictions, and waiting periods for gun purchases suddenly mean that the government is coming to take all your guns away and if you are law abiding citizens and only concerned about safety, why are you scared of having checks and balances in the system?

MOre..
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/killer-mike-tap-dancing-for-the-nra.1502895/

[NurseJackie]

41. "Twitter is all over it." As they should be!

Twitter is all over it.

As they should be!

[Cha]

62. Yes.. good ol twitter isn't letting Killer

get away with his stupidity unchecked.

Jackie!

[workinclasszero]

34. Yeah buddy

What a progressive he is!

[obamanut2012]

47. Damn, that is horrible parenting, that is sociopathic

I wonder if he would do the same if one of his kids come out? Bet you yes.

[Squinch]

16. Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

[EffieBlack]

17. They embraced Killer Mike and trashed John Lewis

[workinclasszero]

36. That tells a person of goodwill all they need to know!

John Lewis is a hero and an American icon!

[obamanut2012]

48. John Lewis marched yesterday

He also met with the Parkland kids and parents.

[GoCubsGo]

20. Who the hell is this "Killer Mike" guy?

And, why should I give a rat's ass what he says? It's just like that Tammy Lahren clown. I'm told I should care what these people think, but nobody can ever give me a good reason as to why. Sorry. Attaching yourself to Bernie Sanders isn't enough. In fact, at this point, it's reason enough to ignore you.

[BannonsLiver]

21. Also hes a proud Obama hater

I don’t think Bernie likes or thinks much of President obama either.

[aikoaiko]

22. Im ok with much of what KM said.

He wants to be able to defend himself and. His family with guns if necessary.

[obamanut2012]

49. what a shocker -- mocking the Parkland kids and their marches is really low

REALLY low. Disowning children and kicking them out of your house if they disagree with you. THIS is what he said, so don't try to move your goalposts. This is shameful, all of it.

I'm glad most gun owners are like myself, and not you and Killer Mike.

The NRA has literally turned into a hate organization.

[aikoaiko]

54. The NRA isn't the only one with hate to give.

People don't like it when Mike doesn't follow the party line.

[uponit7771]

92. He doesn't have the right to every firearm in every setting, the NRA enforces that themselves

[aikoaiko]

105. I agree with you.

People use extreme language when talking about gun rights and gun violence. We lose the when trying trying to make a point.

For example, “never again” is hyperbole. We are really talking about harm reduction, but phrases like “reduce some more” isn’t very interesting.

[vi5]

30. Ah.....DU....the only place in the universe...

...where Killer Mike and Susan Sarandon are the most powerful people in the country.

And I'm sure the next time it comes up that some red state Democrat who has actual power and influence and is against gun control of some kind that many of these same folks "outraged" about this are going to tell those of us who have an issue with it to shut the hell up and get in line because "it's the best we can do!!!" or whatever the excuse du jour is.

For the record I find his opinion on this idiotic, as I do Sarandon's on most anything. But the level of scapegoating and overinflated sense of influence this place gives folks like them is just absurd on it's face, especially with the excuses made for people with actual power, influence, and....you know....actual votes on legislation.

[JI7]

77. red state democrats are needed for democrats to control congress and controlling congress means

democrats decide what comes up for a vote and what doesn't.

killer mike and susan sarandon are trolls who want republican to win and do anything to turn off people from supporting democrats .

[vi5]

86. The point is..

...1 of those groups (the red state Dems) have actual power and vote on things that affect our lives. They actively vote against things that are in the best interest of the Democratic party.

The other group (Killer Mike and Susan Sarandon) are citizens expressing their opinions.

My point stands. Only on DU is one of those things worthy of defending and the other viewed as some sort of all powerful entity.

[JI7]

102. The point is killer mike is trolling to hurt democrats

And help republucans.

Red state democrats vote how they need to keep their seat from going to republicans.

[vi5]

104. "Trolling"

That implies he doesn't actually believe what he's saying and is saying or doing something just to get a rise out of someone.

There's no reason to believe that.

And again, he's one individual with one vote and the same right to speak his mind as any other citizen.

If you honestly believe that a red state Democrat in a position of power, voting against gun control is less responsible for the damage wrought on this issue than a mid tier rap artist then we're going to be in this mess for a long time.

By your logic, this guy:

Is less responsible and open for criticism for the scourge of guns in this country than Killer Mike is.

[JI7]

111. Red state democrats are needed to get gun control

Even if they themselves vote againsr it.

There were many who were promoting killer mike. And even using him to attack john lewis and other black democrats.

And he used the name of a black kid killed to attack the marchers . That kids own mother was a part of that march.

[NCTraveler]

84. I havent seen an op or comment about him in a long time.

Nice fallacy.



Amazing how one op elevates someone to “one of the most powerful people in the country” to some. I imagine it’s pretty amazing to go through life with such an imagination.

[vi5]

87. It was sarcasm

He's not powerful. Neither is Susan sarandon. And the fact that DU thinks either of those people are worthy of ANY posts in general discussion threads shows how absurd many people's thinking can be on here. And the fact that anyone thinks their words had more impact on the 2016 election than many people with D's after their names making bad decisions and bad calls and having bad judgement, only further exemplifies this line of thinking.

[NCTraveler]

88. It doesn't work as sarcasm.

Irony must be present for proper sarcasm. The only irony on display is yours. Therefore it is clearly not sarcasm. Just a fallacious argument.

"their words had more impact on the 2016 election than many people with D's after their names making bad decisions and bad calls and having bad judgement, only further exemplifies this line of thinking."

Another fallacy.

As of this post, the name Sarandon has been used seven times and is not in the op. Four of those uses are in your posts.

[vi5]

90. O.K. good so it sounds like you agree...

...that we should be focusing on what people who ARE Democrats have done wrong and could possibly do better, and pay less or no attention to people who aren't Democrats and will never be, and who have zero power over anything Democrats do with power or their effort to gain power.

I apologize if I was mistaken about what the priorities of many on this page were based off of my reading of the many posts on here on a variety of subjects. You've set me straight and from the sound of it if you are telling me I am wrong, then I'm assuming you agree with me.

[Gothmog]

31. Salon has a good article on this

Link to tweet

[Tarc]

45. "Killer Mike" was a moron mouthing off during the primaries, he's a moron today

I really hope Bernie addresses this.

[Me.]

57. Don't Hold Your Breath On That

[rockfordfile]

50. Blood money from the NRA.

[LexVegas]

52. Isnt he being consistent with the leader of the movement?

[left-of-center2012]

59. Another day - another Bernie attack

Maybe not attacked in the O.P.,
but definitely in the response posts.

Ho hum Ho hum

[LexVegas]

61. ...

[Adrahil]

63. Another Day - another Bernie apologist

Get over him. He lost. He's done.

[left-of-center2012]

66. Yet people attack him here daily

Sad

[Adrahil]

67. "sad"

I'm rolling my eyes at you.

He still has a cult of personality around him, that's for sure.

I never understood his popularity, I admit. He didn't (and isn't) expressing new ideas. I don't think he's a particularly good speaker, and frankly I think he comes of as kind of a judgemental hypocrite (where are those tax returns, Bernie? WHat are you hiding?).

I just think we'll be better off when he returns to being the gadfly from Vermont. He will not ever be the Democratic party nominee.

[left-of-center2012]

68. Yet people attack him here daily

Sad

[Adrahil]

69. "sad"

Are you Trump now? LOL.

I personally wouldn't have anything to say about him if we weren't constantly told breathlessly what "Bernie" did today, and who he deigns to endorse.

Don't care.

[Cha]

79. Touche! nm

[catbyte]

73. Give me a break. It was NOT "an attack", it's the complicated truth.

And before you go off on me, calling me "Anti-Bernie", I voted for him in my state primary He's not a God.

Bernie Sanders’ Gun Control Affair: It’s Complicated

By Anhvinh Doanvo

Senator Bernie Sanders, while being a political darling of liberal Democrats, has found himself in a political quagmire on gun control. The Washington Post has featured a story on his cataclysmic rise to Congress with the NRA’s support. He’s taken vitriol from leftist commentators calling him a “gun nut” and praise from conservatives who have received the same label with glee. His votes against the Brady Bill with its waiting periods — legislation that would have mandated background checks on firearm purchases — and other bills flood the headlines of both liberal and conservative publications.

Bernie Sanders’ position on gun control is far more complex than these headlines suggest, however, even if his nuances lack a reasonable basis. Both Sanders’ supporters and detractors need to be aware of these nuances before blindly praising or criticizing his politics. His positions are such that seemingly minor elements in public policy — especially concerning his opposition to nationally legislated waiting periods for firearm purchases — will thwart the politics of both the right and left.

...snip

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/lets-talk-about-bernie-sa_b_8023768.html

[GaryCnf]

82. Thus snippet is from the same tool

Who attacked Ferguson Black Lives Matters for being too anti-government. Said they and Oath Keepers were just the same.

[TheBlackAdder]

60. This means that Bill Maher will be inviting him back on to clarify his position in the coming weeks.

[Blue_Tires]

70. Didn't take long for him to turn traitor...

Bernie sure can pick 'em...

[dbackjon]

71. He was a traitor when he said there was no difference between Trump and Clinton

[uponit7771]

93. +1

[Blue_true]

106. Actually.

IMO, Killer Mike typifies what Bernie Sanders is about, show with little substance. Hillary Clinton was crushing Bernie among Black voters, so out pops Killer Mike as a way to peel off young Blacks. But Bernie never tried to address the very detailed reasons why Blacks preferred Hillary, he just stayed with his standard Banks and Oligarchs speeches.

[ehrnst]

72. Interesting. (nt)

[Cha]

75. Something more of interest, ehrnst..

Link to tweet

[Blue_Tires]

74. LOL... Okay, this guy is too dumb to breathe

Link to tweet

[NurseJackie]

85. I've thought that exact same thing... right from the very beginning.

He never impressed me at all.

[Blue_true]

108. Exactly. What progressive would trust the NRA for one second? nt

[riversedge]

76. Killer Mike defends gun ownership in interview to NRA TV

He has several tweets included also....................



Killer Mike defends gun ownership in interview to NRA TV

https://news.avclub.com/killer-mike-defends-gun-ownership-in-interview-to-nra-t-1824052480



William Hughes
Saturday 8:10pmFiled to: Music

Photo: MICHAEL CAMPANELLA (Getty Images)

Run The Jewels rapper Killer Mike, who’s spoken before about his membership in the NRA and his general pro-firearm views, gave an assertively pro-gun interview to the organization’s media wing, NRA TV, this week. Presumably designed as counter-programming to the March For Our Lives events happening around the world today, the interview sees Killer Mike—who was a vocal supporter of Bernie Sanders in the 2016 election—express his discontent with the way white progressives can treat allyship as a one-way street, while pushing the narrative that guns are the only way to keep Americans, and specifically black Americans, safe.

Speaking to NRA TV’s Colion Noir, Killer Mike says, “You can’t continue to be the lackey. You’re a lackey of the progressive movement, because you’ve never disagreed with the people who tell you what to do.” He also expresses his view that, in a world that has only recently come out of the shadow of apartheid and where “the cops don’t come on time,” guns are necessary to keep black families safe..................

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[oberliner]

78. There are Democrats and liberals who are members of the NRA

Hard to believe, perhaps, but true.

[riversedge]

80. Joy Reid has a few tweets to Mike here....

Killer Mike
?Verified account @KillerMike
Mar 25

Killer Mike Retweeted Joy Reid

Joy I did an interview. That’s no more a “co sign” than me doing your show. That org used my words to Black America to inflame organizers of this worthy march but i ain’t their rep. I’m just a black guy who is pro 2A & told others to be. Also it was a week Old. Love & Respect

Killer Mike added,
Joy Reid
Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Killer Mike cosigning an organization that traffics in threats against the media (including black women), that ignored Philando Castile, and that pushes gun sales through “brown/black scare” videos is his choice. It’s also proof the NRA knows that the teenagers are beating them.
Show this thread
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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Replying to @KillerMike

Link to tweet

Respectfully, Mike, NRA TV is not the equivalent of MSNBC, or CNN, or CBS, etc. It's not a news network. It's a video outlet for the NRA, designed to push their propaganda, and it's propaganda that is demonstrably hostile to people who look like you and me.
9:06 PM - 25 Mar 2018


Joy Reid ?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Mar 25

Replying to @JoyAnnReid @KillerMike

You're a known quantity to those of us who are political media people, due to your work on the campaign. If you wanted to air your views there are plenty of news outlets including mine who would gladly have you on. The NRA wanted you on tape to use it exactly the way they did.
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BLVCK

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? @realblackjesus
Mar 26
Replying to @JoyAnnReid @KillerMike

Respectfully Joy, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, etc. Aren't news networks either. They are video outlets for propaganda as well. No one is being objective. You guys are all for gun control and you purposefully suppress all news that doesn't support this narrative. It's painfully transparent.

[uponit7771]

91. Wow, wonder what he thinks of FAUX News since he left them out of the mix and most Americans

... are for gun safety

[GaryCnf]

89. Why KM's embrace of the NRA

shows he doesn't know shit about black gun ownership and why the response of white liberals show they don't either.

The central premise of the NRA self-protection meme is pure racism. It is that white folks need guns to kill black folks. Trying to spin that meme by saying, "No, no, we want black folks to kill black folks too," doesn't make it any less of a call to kill blacks folks. KM is an idiot for buying that.

On the other hand, acting like black folks have no more need for guns than white folks is the epitome of white privilege. Unlike white folks, when we talk about being under armed assault by the government, we are talking about 400 years of historical reality. We are targeted and gunned down by the government and NO ONE is ever punished for it. The only opportunity most kids growing up where I did to have what white kids can get just by putting out a half ass effort has been intentionally relegated to a criminal sphere where not only is self protection a real concern, even the limited ethic accompanying legitimate business is absent and success is measured in overt displays of control. I'm not saying any of this is good, mind you, but it's something we live with and you don't.

I support banning the ownership and manufacture of all weapons capable of accepting a detachable magazine OR with an internal magazine with a capacity of more than three rounds, however, I am more than a little tired of listening to some folks imposing their suburban sensibilities on people who don't have their privileges.

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110. Good points.

I am not opposed to guns at all. I just want to see people using guns that are practical for the situation and the owners should not have a history of mental illness or domestic abuse (domestic abuse means regularly beating someone up who don't want that, not getting upset once with your girlfriend in public, losing your shit and grabbing one of her arms, but never doing it again). As far as magazine capacity, IMO, anyone who can't neutralize a threat with no more that six shots should not own a gun at all.