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Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:46 AM

Thank you Emma thread. Powerful silence.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/24/us/emma-gonzalez-march-for-our-lives.html?action=click&contentCollection=OpinionŽion=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&moduleDetail=undefined&pgtype=Multimedia

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Reply Thank you Emma thread. Powerful silence. (Original post)
Botany Mar 2018 OP
MineralMan Mar 2018 #1
femmocrat Mar 2018 #2
dameatball Mar 2018 #3
luvtheGWN Mar 2018 #8
KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #13
PatrickforO Mar 2018 #17
joanbarnes Mar 2018 #20
gopiscrap Mar 2018 #4
Gothmog Mar 2018 #5
HipChick Mar 2018 #6
oasis Mar 2018 #7
mainstreetonce Mar 2018 #9
zentrum Mar 2018 #10
onecent Mar 2018 #11
KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #12
yuiyoshida Mar 2018 #14
Upthevibe Mar 2018 #16
Botany Mar 2018 #22
BobTheSubgenius Mar 2018 #15
certainot Mar 2018 #18
backtoblue Mar 2018 #19
tblue37 Mar 2018 #21

Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:50 AM

1. Great photo

Wish I could give her a hug. Really!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:55 AM

2. I love this young woman!

But at the same time I worry about her. So much recognition and responsibility thrust on her at such a tragic time. I hope the work she is doing gives her the strength she needs. And I hope she and the other students take care of themselves and each other when all the attention inevitably dies down.

Prayers for Emma and the MSD students.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:10 AM

3. I had the same thoughts yesterday when watching.

I hope as time goes by they can continue to be supportive of each other. Fame is a heavy mantle.....although I am not speaking from experience...

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 10:37 AM

8. But it's critically important

to not ALLOW the attention to die down. Keep these fabulous teenagers and supporters in the news at least until November! They deserve nothing less.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:15 AM

13. K&R. Yes.

Hopefully, if they can stay active in this movement, it will help stave off the depression and PTSD long-term. It will be a long road for them, their teachers and family, and for that community.

To the MSD family....... ......
.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:42 AM

17. As long as they continue to act in humility, and to feel humble, they should be

OK. I know I saw one on Maher who said, in effect, "I forgive you Baby Boomers for fucking up the world" and now we are going to fix it. Admirable sentiment, but so close to what we boomers used to say about the older generation.

But, you know, fixing the world is a REALLY heavy lift, and we boomers fell prey to the old 'divide and conquer' strategy levied against us from the parasitical capitalist interests. Consider the civil rights movement - it was a time of great heroes - those Freedom Riders. And they were black and white, Christian and Jewish. They put their lives on the line and damned if we didn't see change. The nation rapidly approached the tipping point.

Monied interests were quaking in their boots, but they weren't done by a long shot. Beginning with the groundwork laid out by Powell's 1971 memo to the US Chamber of Commerce, they began issuing divisive literature, developing racial dog whistles and undermining academic freedom on campuses.

Then, in 1981 Reagan showed how unions could be undermined and busted. You had the birth of the crazy Christian movement that allied itself with the Republicans over abortion while ignoring the systematic weakening of social safety nets.

In 1987, the Fairness Doctrine died, killed by Reagan as one of his last despicable acts.

And look what we have now: the culture of right-wing white victimhood. Conservative-driven angry white men. Backlash against feminists. Backlash against blacks. Backlash against Hispanics. Backlash against poor. The idea, pounded into white heads through thousands of media outlets, that everyone is out to get us, and only the strongest survive (Social Darwinism).

Social Darwinism is great for the capitalists, though, because it plays us right into the hands of the billionaire parasites. Because it is all about money. It is about perverting our view of government from 'of, by and for' us, the people, to being the enemy of the people. It is about making us all hate and mistrust each other. Making us scream with frustration whenever we see anyone less fortunate getting a 'benefit' we are led to feel they did not earn.

This 'everyone for him/herself' meme allows us to be manipulated into allowing the Republican shills for the big capitalists to systematically strip our treasury of tax money that SHOULD be used to make our lives better, and instead give it to the billionaire parasites - defense and other government contracts, tax cuts increasing profits, and social programs suffering cut, cut, cut after cut.

In 2007, when the Wall Street capitalists gave Congress a typed one-page demand for $750 BILLION in taxpayer dollars to bail them out, and Congress GAVE it to them, we had the birth of the Tea Party, which was quickly co-opted by the Koch brothers.

The capitalist Koch brothers also fund organizations like ALEC, that introduce legislation that systematically undermines workers, social programs and institutions we trust - all designed to funnel more public money to billionaires and big corporations.

Lately, when Bernie ran in the 2016 primary, we saw divide and conquer in heavy action when nameless voices who actually represented the billionaire parasites began casting doubt - Bernie is a racist. Economic justice is separate than social justice, and we need social justice first. And so on.

Then when Clinton became our candidate, we all tried very hard to get her elected, but the right wing propaganda machine had decades to sow hatred of her, over and over and over and over.

Now we have Putin, whose hackers are sowing division amongst us, and who is quietly encouraging and helping white nationalist groups come out of the woodwork and gain power.

This is the capitalist utopia that these kids have awakened into. We are in the midst of a coup, make no mistake. The right wing is no longer even trying to hide the avarice of its corporate overlords. It is stripping the treasury and at the same time giving all of us the finger.

So, kids, good luck to you, and you can count on us to help, but WE MUST LEARN TO RECOGNIZE AND RESIST DIVIDE AND CONQUER STRATEGIES. Did you notice the post in the thread about how the Stoneman Douglas kids are owning their privilege that talks about how blacks are being recognized at the expense of Hispanics? THAT is the divide and conquer strategy in action.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:12 PM

20. I Love this woman!

...as if she was my Own Child!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:33 AM

4. ..................................................

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:51 AM

5. K&R

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:55 AM

6. I cannot express the admiration for this young woman..

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 10:01 AM

7. She's truly one of America's heroes. nt

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 10:45 AM

9. Woman of the year

Just beautiful ,and powerful.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 10:55 AM

10. 3 words for her

Nobel Peace Prize

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:07 AM

11. I think she should be able to vote for the Presidency when she's older.

I hope she was born here in Florida???? Anyone know?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:09 AM

12. Emma has the best crickets!

Very brave and inspirational bunch of young people.

... .......

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:21 AM

14. for THOSE of you on twitter, you can thank her...

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:33 AM

16. Thank you, Emma...

I just tweeted her...........

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:26 PM

22. Can you post a link to this thread on her twitter page?

thanx

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:28 AM

15. ...

(Imagine that for 6:20)

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:46 AM

18. there are 1500 or so radio stations with middle aged white men who's job it is to trash her and

the other activists for the NRA

a few hundred of them on those stations, ignored by decent americans and getting a free speech free ride, all working for the NRA and the GOP and their corporate allies, blasting away and making excuses for trump and the NRA are a big reason why nothing happened after columbine and sandy hook.

adults need to make it easier for them - by going on the offensive. it just got a lot easier and cheaper by an order of magnitude ($5/hr at sonix.ai) to get their hate and lies in print and associate it with the advertisers - make the advertisers actually endorse what they're sponsoring and most of them will desert RW/NRA/trump radio.

if the NRA paid $1000/hr for AR 15 defense 15 hrs/day x 1200 radio stations would be worth $18mil/DAY or $5BIL/yr

they and the GOP would lose everything without it

the adults have been ignoring that for 30 years and now we want the kids to fix things.....

just turn on any rw radio station and they'll be trashing those kids and keeping the gop in line.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:47 AM

19. Kick and rec!


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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:23 PM

21. She is amazing. Maybe she will go into politics, become a congresswoman, senator, and ultimately

a woman president, though I hope not our first one.

How cool would that be, though?--a bisexual, Latinx woman as president? Breaking through all sorts of obstacles all at the same time.

Even if we have had a woman president, an openly LGTBT president, or a Latinx by then, those barriers will undoubtedly still be in place and hard to surmount.

Even after Pres. Obama--and to a large degree because of the racist backlash against him--it still will be hard for a POC to become president, even one as accomplished and charismatic as Cory Booker. A female POC would have even a harder time, even one as accomplished and charismatic as Kamala Harris.

I think electing an LGQBT president will be hard, too--harder even than electing a woman or a POC--of a woman POC. We will need someone with Emma's power and presence to accomplish that feat.

What I, an agnostic, would really like to see before I die, too, is an openly atheist president.

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