Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:48 PM Jul 2012

Romney: I will Put Netanyahu First and America Second - No Kidding

Romney: I will Put Netanyahu First and America Second - No Kidding

by TeamSarah4Choice

In December GOP Debate regarding how America should handle Iran:

ROMNEY: "I'd get on the phone to my friend Bibi Netanyahu and say, 'Would it help if I said this? What would you like me to do?'"

Sounds like Romney would put Bibi First and America Second and that is very disturbing to me.
Romney is letting the world know that he will take his orders from Netanyahu rather than from the people of the United States. That bothers me.

Romney accuses President Obama of having a "foreign" Foreign Policy as Romney admits he would actually take orders from a foreign leader, Bibi Netanyahu.

Not only is it chilling that a U.S. President would be a puppet for a foreign leader, it is absurd that Mitt picked Netanyahu to be his Puppet-Master as Netanyahu claims he barely knows Mitt Romney.

Bibi Netanyahu told Vanity Fair

“I remember him [Romney] for sure, but I don’t think we had any particular connections, I knew him and he knew me, I suppose.”

~Bibi Netanyahu, July 2012 in Vanity Fair Interview, (middle of Page 4)

So, Netanyahu "supposes" he knows Mitt Romney - yet Mitt Romney is telling the world that Netanyahu will be his Puppet-Master and he (Mitt) will put Netanyahu First and America Second.

Romney lacks good judgement and is inept at processing real information. You see, as Netanyahu is saying he barely knows Romney -- Romney 'thinks' his scant direct dealing with Netanyahu make them BFFs.

- more -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/29/1114731/-Romney-I-will-Put-Netanyahu-First-and-America-Second


Shambles: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021035644


He’s No Averell Harriman

Fred Kaplan has what I think is the best take so far on Romneyshambles:

The thing that Krauthammer doesn’t get is that Romney is not the sort of businessman—that his brand of capitalism is not the sort of enterprise—that requires even the most elementary understanding of diplomacy, courtesy, or sensitivity to other people’s values, lives, or perceptions.

The American capitalists-turned-statesmen of an earlier generation—Douglas Dillon, Averell Harriman, Robert Lovett, John McCloy, Dean Acheson, Paul Nitze—took risks, built institutions, helped rebuild postwar Europe, befriended their foreign counterparts: in short, they cultivated an internationalist sensibility at their core. Whatever you think of their politics or Cold War policies generally (and there is much to criticize), financiers formed an American political elite in that era because finance (through the Marshall Plan, the World Bank, the IMF, and so forth) was so often the vehicle of American expansionism.

By contrast, private-equity firms, such as Bain Capital, where Romney made his fortune, tend to view their client companies as cash cows, susceptible to cookie-cutter formulas from which the firms’ partners reap lavish fees, almost regardless of the outcome. Their ends and means breed an insularity, a sense of entitlement, a disposition to view all the world’s entities through a single prism and to appraise them along a single scale.

I would only add that the bankers of yore operated by building relationships; Bain made its investors money in large part by breaking relationships, e.g. by walking away from implicit promises to workers. It’s not a style that makes for good diplomacy.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/27/hes-no-averell-harriman/



37 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Romney: I will Put Netanyahu First and America Second - No Kidding (Original Post) ProSense Jul 2012 OP
If Romney becomes President, the United States will attack Iran. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #1
I agree. He wants to be a war president too. Skidmore Jul 2012 #37
"What would you like me to do?" is EXACTLY what I want the president to say to leaders of other Brickbat Jul 2012 #2
Talk about "leading from behind" Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #8
He's like a prostitute! Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #18
K&R BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #3
Yup, the ProSense Jul 2012 #6
You are so right. Very frightening for us all. dmr Jul 2012 #23
Holy Shit !! kentuck Jul 2012 #4
misspelled Mormon n/t oldhippydude Jul 2012 #7
corrected. kentuck Jul 2012 #10
! dmr Jul 2012 #21
Is that his official foreign policy? lunatica Jul 2012 #5
That Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #9
great post bigtree Jul 2012 #11
Not only that, he declared Jerusalem as the capital nichomachus Jul 2012 #12
+1 bigtree Jul 2012 #13
he heaven05 Jul 2012 #14
The Wailing Wall said Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #19
Well, can you blame him? Didn't Netanyahu sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #15
Could you *imagine* the outrage if President Obama said this? AzDar Jul 2012 #16
Bush & co had principles Mutiny In Heaven Jul 2012 #17
Mitt is the puppet -- Sheldon Adelson is the puppetmaster Jessy169 Jul 2012 #20
Rmoney's mormoron policies aside Plucketeer Jul 2012 #22
Romney has now had so many alien symbiants tapping in to his cerebral cortex that aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #24
He is scary Romney is so scary lovuian Jul 2012 #25
Regardless of Mitt's postion, Congress has already made putting Israel first truedelphi Jul 2012 #26
I didn't think Romney could fuck things up any worse than what he did in London LynneSin Jul 2012 #27
Netty Knows Mitty Betty Jo Jul 2012 #28
Kaplan really nails it re. pirate equity BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #29
Yup. n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #32
War - it's the American way. And Romney will bomb Iran at the first opportunity. nt TBF Jul 2012 #30
At least he's being consistent. Pab Sungenis Jul 2012 #31
Dog Whistling Past Armageddon ThoughtCriminal Jul 2012 #33
Now THAT'S pathetic. Mitt calls Bibi "my good friend Bibi," while tblue37 Jul 2012 #34
it's going to take a team of surgeons to extract his feet from his mouth. spanone Jul 2012 #35
Bibi gets first turn at the etch-a-sketch. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #36

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
2. "What would you like me to do?" is EXACTLY what I want the president to say to leaders of other
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jul 2012

countries. OMFG.

BumRushDaShow

(128,443 posts)
3. K&R
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:57 PM
Jul 2012

This is a dangerous man because his real puppet-masters will be Norquist, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Perle. And if he actually won, expect John Yoo to be nominated AG.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Yup, the
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jul 2012

"This is a dangerous man because his real puppet-masters will be Norquist, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Perle. And if he actually won, expect John Yoo to be nominated AG."

...real puppet-master speaks:

Dick Cheney: Picking Palin Was A ‘Mistake’

Former Vice President Dick Cheney said in a Sunday-aired interview that John McCain made a “mistake” by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate in 2008.

Speaking to ABC in an interview that was excerpted on “This Week,” Cheney called Palin an “attractive” candidate but said, “I don’t think she passed that test – of being ready to take over. And so I think that was a mistake.”

To date, McCain stands by his decision to pick Palin.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/dick-cheney-picking-palin-was-mistake



O'Malley: McCain Saw Romney's Tax Returns And He Chose Palin
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002944180

dmr

(28,344 posts)
23. You are so right. Very frightening for us all.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jul 2012

You know I hadn't thought about the possibility of Yoo nominated AG.

Or, I wonder if they'd try to add him to the SCOTUS.

Either one is frightening.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. Is that his official foreign policy?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jul 2012

It sounds like it.

Right after he gets that 3 am call he's dialing Netanyahu's number.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Well, can you blame him? Didn't Netanyahu
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jul 2012

claim to be able to control the US Congress, and it sure looks like he does when visits the Capital Bldg and gets a standing ovation from both parties.

I guess Romney is taking his cues from Congress.

Time to find leaders who put people like Netanyahu is his proper place, but I don't see too many of them in DC on either side.

Romney seems to be vying for the approval of a man who should be shunned by Congress for his war-mongering and far right wing dangerous policies. I guess of Netanyahu wants another war, Romney is letting him know that he can use the US Military if he should be elected.



 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
16. Could you *imagine* the outrage if President Obama said this?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:35 PM
Jul 2012

I think I fear this moron in the Oval Office more than I feared Bush.

Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
17. Bush & co had principles
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:39 PM
Jul 2012

They were pretty fucked up ones, but there was a leash of sorts. Romney belongs to the highest bidder. I fear that it's not just your country that will be in trouble if he gets to take the oath of office in January.

Jessy169

(602 posts)
20. Mitt is the puppet -- Sheldon Adelson is the puppetmaster
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jul 2012

Romney is accomplishing three goals with his trip to Israel:

1) He is covertly promising the Republican Base more WAR, which is sure to get them all very excited
2) He is sucking up to the extreme right in Israel, lips firmly sealed to anal sphincters, while he holds his hands out for more money
3) He is fullfilling his obligation to Sheldon Adelson, the multi-billionaire donor who is on record stating that his primary allegience is to Israel

Mitt is just saying what Sheldon Adelson has paid him to say, and as president, Mitt will do what Sheldon Adelson and the other big donors (investors in Romney's presidency) tell him to do. Mitt's loyalties are to the almighty buck, and to whoever gives him the most of those, period.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
22. Rmoney's mormoron policies aside
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jul 2012

What the FUCK do we owe Israel??? I mean - besides them being another outlet for our military hardware makers - which purchases actually COME from our own coffers!

It's not like we don't already POUR funds on that obstinate outpost that could be used for SO MANY things here at home. I don't understand - I really don't.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
24. Romney has now had so many alien symbiants tapping in to his cerebral cortex that
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:27 PM
Jul 2012

it's like the United Nations of outer space on the back of his neck. Everyone he meets becomes his puppet master, from Karl Rove to Sheldon Adelson. Romney just tells them 'do whatever you have to, as long as I win'.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
26. Regardless of Mitt's postion, Congress has already made putting Israel first
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jul 2012

a legal position, in legislation passed about sixty days ago.

Oh and the legislation was signed by the President.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
27. I didn't think Romney could fuck things up any worse than what he did in London
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jul 2012
"I'd get on the phone to my friend Bibi Netanyahu and say, 'Would it help if I said this? What would you like me to do?'"


Really?

How about what the people in the United States would like for you to do since that's who you would be representing - not Israel.

I don't have anything against the country of Israel but to me America comes first!
 

Betty Jo

(66 posts)
28. Netty Knows Mitty
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

The April 12{?} New York Times has a story about how well they know each other.I will try to find it.There is another article in the same manner I just read a little while ago.Netty seems to lie just like Mitty.Does any one else wonder if Mitty is going into Altzheimers?

BeyondGeography

(39,346 posts)
29. Kaplan really nails it re. pirate equity
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

There couldn't be a worse training ground for relationship building.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
31. At least he's being consistent.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:59 PM
Jul 2012

He made his billions off of outsourcing, so why shouldn't we expect him to outsource the State Department to Israel?

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
33. Dog Whistling Past Armageddon
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:48 PM
Jul 2012

This is all about pandering to America's Pro-Apocalypse Rapture Doomsday Cult.


tblue37

(65,227 posts)
34. Now THAT'S pathetic. Mitt calls Bibi "my good friend Bibi," while
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:19 PM
Jul 2012

Bibi says, "Huh? I hardly know the man!"

Doesn't Mitt sound like the kid in school who followed along after the kids he thought were supposed to be the "cool kids," sucking up, offering to run their little errands for them, and claiming to everyone else that they were besties?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Romney: I will Put Netany...