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So they only fucked once, and she is THAT dangerous to him....I don't get it... (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Mar 2018 OP
Was it while Melania was pregnant? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #1
Does not matter dhol82 Mar 2018 #3
I looked at the timing ...the kid could be Trumps...she says it was with a boyfriend but unless she Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #16
That would be a story. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #20
It would explain why paternity was mentioned in the contract. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #23
IDK what "not impressed" means. If this was a democrat, they would be gone from govt by morning Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #28
This is Donald Trump we are talking about here. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #34
Nope I am wrong...I had the affair wrong..the affair was in 2006 not 2011 Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #43
The child was born in 2010 or 2011, if Trump and Daniels had sex once in 2006 Exotica Mar 2018 #31
I thought they had sex I 2011...my mistake that was when she first tried to tell her story. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #44
yes, 2011 was when she first tried to talk about it Exotica Mar 2018 #45
5 years is a pretty long pregnancy. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2018 #52
From what we've heard, she had already given birth. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #32
He could have told her, and then she could have told Anderson that he Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #35
Well, I'm sure it was a big ratings success for CBS, so there's that Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #41
No, she'd given birth the Barron 4 months before. fierywoman Mar 2018 #53
It wasnt really anything that we didnt already know. bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #2
Having infidelity proven opens him up more to other suits, I'm guessing -nt Freelancer Mar 2018 #4
I liked the part where she goes GusBob Mar 2018 #5
She said she was not attracted to him and didnt want sex with him SummerSnow Mar 2018 #30
I think the sex was transactional for her and not lust-based. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #51
I know, he's so dreamy eShirl Mar 2018 #61
I guess nothing shocks people about Trump anymore. LisaL Mar 2018 #6
You are missing that they pad 130k to keep her quiet Tumbulu Mar 2018 #7
I think they wasted their money leftstreet Mar 2018 #11
or does anyone know how old the daughter is? Could she be Trump's kid? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #12
Oh for crying out loud. LisaL Mar 2018 #14
Reading a lot of "nothing to see here" , i bet if this was about you know who Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #21
She is 7 and there was paternity mentioned in the agreement. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #22
Regardless of that, I get suspicious when I see anyone imply "nothing to see here" Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #25
Its probably just boilerplate language... Orange Free State Mar 2018 #47
You are implying she was forced or pressured. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #24
No she does not, but she was Tumbulu Mar 2018 #48
So you are saying that she couldn't have just decided, out of her volition, to have sex with him IluvPitties Mar 2018 #49
Maybe, but this is a woman who makes a living Tumbulu Mar 2018 #50
+1000 Pachamama Mar 2018 #58
She explained that DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #62
we already knew that Skittles Mar 2018 #60
He denied it happened. Tatiana Mar 2018 #8
She has a kid...paternity is mentioned in the agreement...I have to wonder if the kid is Donald's. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #9
I believe it was mentioned that that was standard language in all his NDAs. They covered all bases. KewlKat Mar 2018 #40
$$$$$ Va Lefty Mar 2018 #10
It's his M.O. of paying hush money that is the story. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #13
Exactly what it would be every second of Faux if this were a Dem ... "President Blackmailed ... mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #54
Yep. And they'd have a point, for once. nt SunSeeker Mar 2018 #64
This case is going to be a big problem for Don-o. So goes one NDA so can go the rest. Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #15
Thinking it's a violation of the pre-nup Arazi Mar 2018 #17
Im thinking theres more... PunksMom Mar 2018 #18
Youre right...now that I recall Clarity2 Mar 2018 #27
She isn't dangerous to him. However, she is one of many. Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #19
It's the payoff before the election, and that he isn't the stud he thinks he is nadine_mn Mar 2018 #26
He's a bully... renegade000 Mar 2018 #29
I still think we're missing a piece of the picture - about the timing and need for a payoff Siwsan Mar 2018 #33
Because she was about to go public right before the election sharedvalues Mar 2018 #37
Well, supposedly Bannon did say they had to take care of around 100 women. Ick Siwsan Mar 2018 #42
Check out the tweets here - this explains why dangerous sharedvalues Mar 2018 #36
I think it's an STD . stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #38
Right, I kept wondering why she emphasis UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #57
Say you're a guy with a lot of money, a third wife and a lot to lose. blogslut Mar 2018 #39
He is the President, world wide wally Mar 2018 #46
This was an interesting interview. underthematrix Mar 2018 #55
Something is missing UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #56
You mean blugbox Mar 2018 #67
Cooper said later there were many "tawdry details" edited out of the story. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #59
Brace for leak of tawdry details in 5..4..3..2..1.....n/t Orange Free State Mar 2018 #63
It has nothing to do with the illicit sex. Unless it is really out there like incest. AgadorSparticus Mar 2018 #65
He's very self-conscious and embarrassed by his micropenis... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #66

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
16. I looked at the timing ...the kid could be Trumps...she says it was with a boyfriend but unless she
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:30 PM
Mar 2018

had a DNA test, how would she know. She had unprotected sex. This may be why paternity was mentioned...dollar to donuts this could be Trump's kid or he is afraid the kid could be his kid.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
34. This is Donald Trump we are talking about here.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:43 PM
Mar 2018

A tabloid president. This type of thing won't bring him down...

Mueller will.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
43. Nope I am wrong...I had the affair wrong..the affair was in 2006 not 2011
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:06 PM
Mar 2018

That is when she told her story but it was not published. Someone said paternity was standard in these contracts.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
31. The child was born in 2010 or 2011, if Trump and Daniels had sex once in 2006
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:41 PM
Mar 2018

(per her own words) how could it be Trump's?

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
45. yes, 2011 was when she first tried to talk about it
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:11 PM
Mar 2018

The entire thing is sickening, and I hope it, in some small way, helps bring down Trump.

Rhiannon12866

(204,713 posts)
32. From what we've heard, she had already given birth.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:43 PM
Mar 2018

And during the interview, she said she brought that up and he just dismissed it. What a guy!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
35. He could have told her, and then she could have told Anderson that he
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:45 PM
Mar 2018

paid to have people killed who sued him.

It would not matter to his base, so the argument that this interview doesnt matter, makes no sense.

Rhiannon12866

(204,713 posts)
41. Well, I'm sure it was a big ratings success for CBS, so there's that
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:54 PM
Mar 2018

And she did come off as credible. What I meant that he just dismissed that he had a wife and new baby at home. And who would have ever imagined that this would become mainstream news about an American president?? Jimmy Carter was vilified for having "lust in his heart" and Obama wore that tan suit!

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. I liked the part where she goes
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:21 PM
Mar 2018

' oh god here we go '

But no, not attracted to him at all

Then she cock-blocked him the next time he touched her. Grabbed her purse and left

Sums up his presidency don't it

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
7. You are missing that they pad 130k to keep her quiet
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:23 PM
Mar 2018

And that he used his position of power to get that unprotected sex with her.

And that he did this right after Melanie gave birth.

What are you missing?

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
11. I think they wasted their money
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:25 PM
Mar 2018

Unless there's something she's not telling, it seems stupid

His core supporters of 'conservative' white males will only admire him more after this, as they would have if they'd heard it pre-election

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
25. Regardless of that, I get suspicious when I see anyone imply "nothing to see here"
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:35 PM
Mar 2018

but yes, i wasnt even thinking of this child, I was thinking of why Melania would be so pissed and that he would be afraid she would turn on him and tell the truth about his many crimes and treason

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
24. You are implying she was forced or pressured.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:34 PM
Mar 2018

However, she had no issue turning him down after the first time, and she, a 40 yr old woman, does not see herself as a victim of anything.

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
48. No she does not, but she was
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:45 PM
Mar 2018

and if you don't see that there was a power imbalance that in subsequent meetings she was able to extricate herself from, you are missing a lot.

You don't have to see it. I sure do, and I bet a lot of other people saw as well.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
49. So you are saying that she couldn't have just decided, out of her volition, to have sex with him
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:58 PM
Mar 2018

to see if she could get something out of it?

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
50. Maybe, but this is a woman who makes a living
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 01:08 AM
Mar 2018

using her body as currency. In this case she chose to just go along ( although she made sure not to get stuck again going forward). So there is this sense that she went along ...and with unprotected sex, not really a good idea.

Sorry, I call it coerced because it is her default position. And she does not think it was coerced because it is normal to her. But looking at it from the outside, it is quite the opposite.

His assuming that they would have sex because she went to the bathroom is imposing to say the least.

I am reading this reaction from plenty of women. Plenty of women have gotten stuck in sucky sex situations where it is easier to just go along and get out asap. That does not actually make it truly consensual.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
62. She explained that
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 07:17 AM
Mar 2018

she ended up being intimate with Trump because she allowed herself to get into a situation where he expected it. But she was very clear that she was not a victim and sex was consensual.

I found it interesting that she didn't want to pegged as part of the metoo movement because she felt that takes away the focus from real victims of harrassment and assault.

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
60. we already knew that
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 06:24 AM
Mar 2018

so what is the point of interviewing Ms. Daniels besides giving her the attention she craves?

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
8. He denied it happened.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:24 PM
Mar 2018

So I think it *should* (but probably won't) call into question his credibility with the Trumpers.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
9. She has a kid...paternity is mentioned in the agreement...I have to wonder if the kid is Donald's.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:24 PM
Mar 2018

He didn't use protection.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
40. I believe it was mentioned that that was standard language in all his NDAs. They covered all bases.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:54 PM
Mar 2018

SOP.

I also recall that she planned on that child and selected the father. It's not the orange spankies.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
13. It's his M.O. of paying hush money that is the story.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:27 PM
Mar 2018

Not only is it a blatant campaign finance violation, but it shows he will do anything to cover up dirt from his past. You know, like agree to drop sanctions against an enemy of the US. This is quite a piece of corroborating evidence in the Russia probe.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
54. Exactly what it would be every second of Faux if this were a Dem ... "President Blackmailed ...
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 02:41 AM
Mar 2018

By Porn Star (Sex happened while Wife was nursing their 4mo. old!!!)."

They be beside themselves over how this proves the POTUS ... can be blackmailed and how dangerous that is.

Wall-to-wall, all day for the next week. Endless pearl clutching, the whole 9.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
15. This case is going to be a big problem for Don-o. So goes one NDA so can go the rest.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:28 PM
Mar 2018

Plus she was pressured to sign it under duress. Tsk Tsk Tsk. Paying hush money right before a campaign is also very bad indeed. Avenetti knows this must be a good case or else he wouldn't be pursing it. Cooper called him a Dem operative. I knew I liked that guy.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
27. Youre right...now that I recall
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:39 PM
Mar 2018

I could have sworn there were more meetings. With the family, jr., at same hotels as the other woman. But I cant keep track of anything anymore.

Freethinker65

(9,999 posts)
19. She isn't dangerous to him. However, she is one of many.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:31 PM
Mar 2018

There is a pattern of him fucking around, or attempting to, and then once successful, paying the women off to keep their silence.

The payoffs for silence is actually more disturbing than the fucking around. He's bragged about fucking around for years. He fucked around on all of his wives. He is free to consensually fuck whoever he wants (if of legal age).

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
26. It's the payoff before the election, and that he isn't the stud he thinks he is
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:38 PM
Mar 2018

The legal problem is the $$ paid right after the access hollywood tape and the before the election

what hurts Trump's ego is just how lame he is... that she wasn't that into him, that he isn't the stud muffin he thinks he is, where he was always trying to get with her and she was like - eww no

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
29. He's a bully...
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:40 PM
Mar 2018

He just likes to throw his weight around and shut people up.

You should watch "You've Been Trumped," about him bullying the locals of a small Scottish town by one of his golf courses. The man is scum.

Siwsan

(26,249 posts)
33. I still think we're missing a piece of the picture - about the timing and need for a payoff
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:43 PM
Mar 2018

She had the most casual of 'relationships' with him. Nothing more than a one nighter and it sounds like he's no stranger to that concept. So why the need for all of this cover up? It all pretty weird.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
37. Because she was about to go public right before the election
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:48 PM
Mar 2018

Remeber back to Oct 2016. Bannon had paraded Bill Clinton's accusers out at a debate. Access Hollywood had come out but been squelched in the media by the Russians.

Sex and women and misogyny were a clear weakness of the president that his team was trying desperately to manage.

If Stormy had gone public a few weeks before the election, it could have sunk him. So it was a BIG DEAL to silence her. And others too, appaarently.

Siwsan

(26,249 posts)
42. Well, supposedly Bannon did say they had to take care of around 100 women. Ick
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:55 PM
Mar 2018

So maybe the payment was so low because they were paying off so many. Her attorney did say that 6 more women have contacted him.

But the point still is that everybody already knew about his sexual proclivities so why the massive need to hide things? That just doesn't make sense to me. The cat was already out of the bag, so to speak. Anyway, that's where I'm hitting the wall.

Her attorney is going to be on 'The View' tomorrow.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
36. Check out the tweets here - this explains why dangerous
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:46 PM
Mar 2018

At least a few things

- potential campaign finance lawbreaking
- exposing his weakness and compromising his masculinity
- alleged threats from presidential heavies. what did Schiller and Cohen know? Stuff like this is what brought down Nixon

see tweets here
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210413434

blogslut

(37,982 posts)
39. Say you're a guy with a lot of money, a third wife and a lot to lose.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:48 PM
Mar 2018

Ivana got $14 million and that was extraordinary at the time. Their divorce was news fodder for months. Whatever pre-nup he and Melania have, ain't nobody predicted this situation back in 2005. Mrs. FLOTUS got lots to bargain with this time.

Not only does he not want to pay for a divorce settlement, can you imagine how M.E.S.S.Y. a White House divorce would be with that bastard in office? Agenda? Haha! Every republican in the nation will be sucked up in the Hoover of broken marriage drama.

(Title hat tip to Dave Anthony)

world wide wally

(21,738 posts)
46. He is the President,
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:19 PM
Mar 2018

He has threatened to sue her for $20 M, he had her physically threatened, he has lied about it.
He is an asshole.
Enough for me.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
55. This was an interesting interview.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 03:02 AM
Mar 2018

Stormy had sex with Trump about 4 months after Melanie had her son. According to Trump, his marriage did not include sharing a bedroom or sex. Did she use in vitro fertilization

Like Karen McRougal, Stormy said Trump compared her to his daughter Ivanka. Now if other women come forward and say the same thing, we're talking about a much deeper problem.

It appears Cohen threatened her with physical harm through one of Trump's thugs which occurred before she signed the NDA.



blugbox

(951 posts)
67. You mean
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 04:24 PM
Mar 2018

So worried about what didn't happen... They are still officially denying it. Makes even less sense.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
65. It has nothing to do with the illicit sex. Unless it is really out there like incest.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 04:13 PM
Mar 2018

It is always the cover up. It is illegal if he used campaign funds to hush her up, though.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
66. He's very self-conscious and embarrassed by his micropenis...
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 04:14 PM
Mar 2018

... and doesn't want anyone talking about it.

(That's my guess.)

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