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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo they only fucked once, and she is THAT dangerous to him....I don't get it...
what am I missing here, kids??
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)dhol82
(9,352 posts)Its weird that this small act would provoke such an episode.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)had a DNA test, how would she know. She had unprotected sex. This may be why paternity was mentioned...dollar to donuts this could be Trump's kid or he is afraid the kid could be his kid.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)However, not impressed so far.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)A tabloid president. This type of thing won't bring him down...
Mueller will.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)That is when she told her story but it was not published. Someone said paternity was standard in these contracts.
Exotica
(1,461 posts)(per her own words) how could it be Trump's?
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)Exotica
(1,461 posts)The entire thing is sickening, and I hope it, in some small way, helps bring down Trump.
Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)Rhiannon12866
(204,713 posts)And during the interview, she said she brought that up and he just dismissed it. What a guy!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)paid to have people killed who sued him.
It would not matter to his base, so the argument that this interview doesnt matter, makes no sense.
Rhiannon12866
(204,713 posts)And she did come off as credible. What I meant that he just dismissed that he had a wife and new baby at home. And who would have ever imagined that this would become mainstream news about an American president?? Jimmy Carter was vilified for having "lust in his heart" and Obama wore that tan suit!
fierywoman
(7,668 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,373 posts)Freelancer
(2,107 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)' oh god here we go '
But no, not attracted to him at all
Then she cock-blocked him the next time he touched her. Grabbed her purse and left
Sums up his presidency don't it
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)but did it anyway.Weird
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)eShirl
(18,478 posts)how could anyone not want him ?
LisaL
(44,972 posts)He might as well be teflon.
Tumbulu
(6,268 posts)And that he used his position of power to get that unprotected sex with her.
And that he did this right after Melanie gave birth.
What are you missing?
leftstreet
(36,097 posts)Unless there's something she's not telling, it seems stupid
His core supporters of 'conservative' white males will only admire him more after this, as they would have if they'd heard it pre-election
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)it would be lots to see
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)but yes, i wasnt even thinking of this child, I was thinking of why Melania would be so pissed and that he would be afraid she would turn on him and tell the truth about his many crimes and treason
Orange Free State
(611 posts)...put into all the agreements he signs with women.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)However, she had no issue turning him down after the first time, and she, a 40 yr old woman, does not see herself as a victim of anything.
Tumbulu
(6,268 posts)and if you don't see that there was a power imbalance that in subsequent meetings she was able to extricate herself from, you are missing a lot.
You don't have to see it. I sure do, and I bet a lot of other people saw as well.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)to see if she could get something out of it?
Tumbulu
(6,268 posts)using her body as currency. In this case she chose to just go along ( although she made sure not to get stuck again going forward). So there is this sense that she went along ...and with unprotected sex, not really a good idea.
Sorry, I call it coerced because it is her default position. And she does not think it was coerced because it is normal to her. But looking at it from the outside, it is quite the opposite.
His assuming that they would have sex because she went to the bathroom is imposing to say the least.
I am reading this reaction from plenty of women. Plenty of women have gotten stuck in sucky sex situations where it is easier to just go along and get out asap. That does not actually make it truly consensual.
Agree
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)she ended up being intimate with Trump because she allowed herself to get into a situation where he expected it. But she was very clear that she was not a victim and sex was consensual.
I found it interesting that she didn't want to pegged as part of the metoo movement because she felt that takes away the focus from real victims of harrassment and assault.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)so what is the point of interviewing Ms. Daniels besides giving her the attention she craves?
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)So I think it *should* (but probably won't) call into question his credibility with the Trumpers.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)He didn't use protection.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)SOP.
I also recall that she planned on that child and selected the father. It's not the orange spankies.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Not only is it a blatant campaign finance violation, but it shows he will do anything to cover up dirt from his past. You know, like agree to drop sanctions against an enemy of the US. This is quite a piece of corroborating evidence in the Russia probe.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)By Porn Star (Sex happened while Wife was nursing their 4mo. old!!!)."
They be beside themselves over how this proves the POTUS ... can be blackmailed and how dangerous that is.
Wall-to-wall, all day for the next week. Endless pearl clutching, the whole 9.
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)Plus she was pressured to sign it under duress. Tsk Tsk Tsk. Paying hush money right before a campaign is also very bad indeed. Avenetti knows this must be a good case or else he wouldn't be pursing it. Cooper called him a Dem operative. I knew I liked that guy.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Melania cashes in
PunksMom
(440 posts)I could be wrong, but thats just my opinion
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)I could have sworn there were more meetings. With the family, jr., at same hotels as the other woman. But I cant keep track of anything anymore.
Freethinker65
(9,999 posts)There is a pattern of him fucking around, or attempting to, and then once successful, paying the women off to keep their silence.
The payoffs for silence is actually more disturbing than the fucking around. He's bragged about fucking around for years. He fucked around on all of his wives. He is free to consensually fuck whoever he wants (if of legal age).
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)The legal problem is the $$ paid right after the access hollywood tape and the before the election
what hurts Trump's ego is just how lame he is... that she wasn't that into him, that he isn't the stud muffin he thinks he is, where he was always trying to get with her and she was like - eww no
renegade000
(2,301 posts)He just likes to throw his weight around and shut people up.
You should watch "You've Been Trumped," about him bullying the locals of a small Scottish town by one of his golf courses. The man is scum.
Siwsan
(26,249 posts)She had the most casual of 'relationships' with him. Nothing more than a one nighter and it sounds like he's no stranger to that concept. So why the need for all of this cover up? It all pretty weird.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Remeber back to Oct 2016. Bannon had paraded Bill Clinton's accusers out at a debate. Access Hollywood had come out but been squelched in the media by the Russians.
Sex and women and misogyny were a clear weakness of the president that his team was trying desperately to manage.
If Stormy had gone public a few weeks before the election, it could have sunk him. So it was a BIG DEAL to silence her. And others too, appaarently.
Siwsan
(26,249 posts)So maybe the payment was so low because they were paying off so many. Her attorney did say that 6 more women have contacted him.
But the point still is that everybody already knew about his sexual proclivities so why the massive need to hide things? That just doesn't make sense to me. The cat was already out of the bag, so to speak. Anyway, that's where I'm hitting the wall.
Her attorney is going to be on 'The View' tomorrow.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)At least a few things
- potential campaign finance lawbreaking
- exposing his weakness and compromising his masculinity
- alleged threats from presidential heavies. what did Schiller and Cohen know? Stuff like this is what brought down Nixon
see tweets here
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210413434
stonecutter357
(12,693 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Unprotected sex.
Maybe Trump gave her something.
blogslut
(37,982 posts)Ivana got $14 million and that was extraordinary at the time. Their divorce was news fodder for months. Whatever pre-nup he and Melania have, ain't nobody predicted this situation back in 2005. Mrs. FLOTUS got lots to bargain with this time.
Not only does he not want to pay for a divorce settlement, can you imagine how M.E.S.S.Y. a White House divorce would be with that bastard in office? Agenda? Haha! Every republican in the nation will be sucked up in the Hoover of broken marriage drama.
(Title hat tip to Dave Anthony)
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)He has threatened to sue her for $20 M, he had her physically threatened, he has lied about it.
He is an asshole.
Enough for me.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Stormy had sex with Trump about 4 months after Melanie had her son. According to Trump, his marriage did not include sharing a bedroom or sex. Did she use in vitro fertilization
Like Karen McRougal, Stormy said Trump compared her to his daughter Ivanka. Now if other women come forward and say the same thing, we're talking about a much deeper problem.
It appears Cohen threatened her with physical harm through one of Trump's thugs which occurred before she signed the NDA.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Why is Trump so worried about what happened?
So worried about what didn't happen... They are still officially denying it. Makes even less sense.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Orange Free State
(611 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)It is always the cover up. It is illegal if he used campaign funds to hush her up, though.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and doesn't want anyone talking about it.
(That's my guess.)