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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:34 PM Mar 2018

Putin Finally Went Too Far

When Britain threw out 23 Russian diplomats in response to an assassination attempt on Russian agent Sergei Skripal, Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia and current bad boy of modern geopolitics, shrugged it off. With relations between London and Moscow so strained, the embassy didn’t have all that much to do, anyway. The cost, Putin no doubt felt, was predictable and bearable. Then on Monday, 20 additional countries, from Albania to Ukraine, joined in a coordinated expulsion campaign, with the United States accounting for 60 of the Russians sent packing. Suddenly, the Kremlin isn’t looking quite so comfortable. With the Skripal hit, it looks as if Putin may have finally overreached.

For years now, Putin’s calculation has been that the West is strong but lacking in unity and will, allowing a scrappy Russia willing to bend and break the rules of the international order to assert its place as a global player. But the success of this gambit hinged on his capacity to assess what the West would tolerate. By exceeding those limits, he may have delivered a triple blow to himself.

The expulsions are certain to deliver a serious, if not mortal blow to Russia’s intelligence networks. Putin has lavished resources and political capital on his covert foreign operations, which are now as pervasive and aggressive as they were at the height of the Cold War. His spook army is also a multi-headed hydra, featuring three main agencies: the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), military intelligence (GRU), and the newcomers, the political policemen-turned-spooks of the Federal Security Service (FSB).

he more than 120 expelled individuals, all presumed to be intelligence officers working under diplomatic cover, represent only a fraction of Russia’s intelligence apparatus. In the Czech Republic, for example, the security service has claimed that as many as 50 Russians working in the embassy in Prague are actually spies. But, mindful that their much smaller embassy in Moscow can only sustain a few retaliatory expulsions, the Czechs expelled just three Russians.

Nonetheless, as the remaining Russian agents scramble to absorb their departing colleagues’ sources and workloads, the wave of expulsions will inevitably disrupt both intelligence-gathering networks as well as “active measures,” or political subversion operations. These activities range from encouraging anti-government paramilitary groups in Bulgaria to supporting populist far-right fringe groups in Europe.

The expulsions also shift the geopolitical landscape. In previous incidents of Russian mischief, Moscow has only had to deal with one country at a time. When its agents poisoned defector Alexander Litvinenko in London in 2006, for example, Britain received little real support from its allies when it pushed back against Russia. When assassins killed Chechen activists in Istanbul in 2009, no one rushed to help the Turks. When Russian commandos kidnapped Estonian security officer Eston Kohver in 2014, Tallinn had to cut its own deal with Moscow to get him back. Each time, allies offered little more than sympathy, and Putin presumably assumed this would again be the case with Skripal.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-finally-went-too-far/ar-BBKM0N5?li=BBnb7Kz

If you want to hurt them freeze their assets. A lot of Russian money is in off shore banks.

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Putin Finally Went Too Far (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2018 OP
The Russian embassy in Seattle was closed completely RainCaster Mar 2018 #1
Consulate not embassy TexasProgresive Mar 2018 #3
In the middle of the month, the news was the UK was freezing Russian assets ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #2
oh bullshit. these expulsions dont do shit. mopinko Mar 2018 #4

RainCaster

(10,857 posts)
1. The Russian embassy in Seattle was closed completely
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:40 PM
Mar 2018

It is said that that was only an intelligence outpost to keep track of Bangor and Boeing. I think the part about Bangor is right.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
3. Consulate not embassy
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:03 PM
Mar 2018
Technically, an Embassy is where an "Ambassador" is based. As there can only be one Ambassador for a specific country, there can only be (at most) one Embassy. As the Ambassador is the highest ranking representative of that foreign government, the Embassy is thus also deemed to be the highest level of representative location.

A consulate is similar, but generally deemed to be a lower ranking due to the lack of an Ambassador. Consulates will generally be smaller - often being more like an office where the embassy often doubles as the actual residence for the Ambassador and/or some of his staff.
https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/9480/whats-the-difference-between-embassies-and-consulates

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
2. In the middle of the month, the news was the UK was freezing Russian assets
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:45 PM
Mar 2018

I googled but couldn't find any updates after March 14th. Was it just talk? I also couldn't find anything on other EU countries freezing assets.

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