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by Rachel Dicker | 12:18 pm, March 30th, 2018
Larry King has weighed in on former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens assertion that student protesters should demand a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Its poorly written, King said of the amendment to TMZ. What did they mean by militia?
You know [the people] who signed the Second Amendment were southern senators so they could ward off slaves uprisings, King added. Read the history.
When the man behind the camera balks and asks King to briefly explain the history, he said: Eventually it won in other areas but southern senators started it [for that reason].
Another off-camera man offered that they wanted to protect themselves against black people, and King said, Yeah, thats correct And the NRA is the worst.
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https://www.mediaite.com/online/larry-king-calls-for-repealing-2nd-amendment-it-was-written-to-stop-slave-uprisings/
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)Isnt this something?
Igel
(35,274 posts)More than King, apparently.
"The Second Amendment" was passed "so they could ward off slaves' uprisings" is like saying "ships were invented to attack coastlines." Now, that's surely one purpose that can be read into the origin, but it's not like it's the only or even most likely reason. The slave patrols weren't the militia. And there's no suspicion that the federal government was going to interfere in local slave patrols.
There's a large body of work on this topic, looking at scores of documents from the late 1600s N. America and Britain, discourse on it under the British in the 18th century and from the time when the amendment was being introduced with others, then edited, then ratified in numerous states.
This is retconning for current political rhetoric.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)get right down to it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)gibraltar72
(7,499 posts)Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)Hartmann has very little in the way of credentials on the subject and nobody who does seems to agree with him.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Following statehood, California State Militia became the parties engaged in most of the early conflicts with the Indians within its boundaries before the American Civil War. The state would seek compensation from the United States federal government for the cost of the operations and for the "depredations" of the Indians, that would not be settled for decades. Often the local miners or other settlers, impatient at the bureaucratic delay or political opposition involved with organizing militia companies, organized locally to operate against the Indians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Indian_Wars
In Minnesota, during the Sioux Uprising during the Civil War, militia units were raised and protected several forts.
The Thirteen Colonies had fought numerous battles with Indians prior to the Revolutionary War. Militia and provincial units fought in these wars, as well as small numbers of British troops.
hack89
(39,171 posts)why did they sign?
King is an idiot.
moondust
(19,960 posts)how could slave owners and their patrols keep tens/hundreds/thousands of slaves from revolting or dashing off into the night without substantial firepower? Whips? Swords? Bowie knives? Wouldn't those require a sizeable army of full-time whip crackers/sword brandishers/knife throwers if you've got a hundred slaves closing in on the them or running in every direction? What happens when large numbers manage to overrun the patrol or escape? The slave economy collapses; game over.
Seems plausible even if not openly discussed as a safeguard to protect the slave economy. Putting it in the Constitution also protects it from simple legislative repeal.
Russia Times Larry King?
Retrograde
(10,130 posts)It was also written to protect militias fighting with Native Americans who wanted to keep the British settlers from encroaching unto their lands. And as gravy, it would protect militias along the border in case those states wanted to annex Canada or maybe the Spanish lands to the South and West.
EX500rider
(10,809 posts)In the original 13 we had N/S Carolina and Georgia and Virginia...
Pretty sure the other 9 Colonies/States signed too.
Retrograde
(10,130 posts)were slave states until the 13th amendment passed. Slavery was still legal in NY and other states when the Constitution was ratifed.