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coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 03:38 PM Apr 2018

The hacked emails at the center of Muellers Russia investigation

[link:https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/2/17164266/trump-russia-mueller-email-hackings-dnc-clinton|

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The Trump Tower meeting: It was on June 3, 2016 — a little more than a month after Papadopoulos’s tip, but still before any news broke about Democrats having been hacked — that publicist Rob Goldstone emailed an acquaintance of his, Donald Trump Jr. Goldstone described some news from his clients Aras and Emin Agalarov, a father-son pair of real estate developers who’d done business with the Trumps:

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

Don Jr. enthusiastically accepted the offer, and Goldstone arranged a meeting six days later, on June 9. The Trump delegation included Don Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner. They met Goldstone, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, Agalarov company executive Ike Kaveladze, Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin, and translator Anatoli Samochornov.

Once the existence of the meeting became public, all parties involved claimed it was a dud, resulting in nothing of consequence. But the timing of the meeting is strange. Three days later, Assange announced he’d received emails related to Hillary Clinton. Two days after that, the DNC announced it had been hacked and blamed Russia.

Goldstone saw an article about that and emailed it to Emin and Kaveladze, writing that the news was “eerily weird” considering what they’d just discussed at the Trump Tower meeting. Guccifer 2.0 began posting the day after that.

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The hacked emails at the center of Muellers Russia investigation (Original Post) coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 OP
I can't help thinking this is where we are..Buffalo Springfield.. asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #1
Buffalo Springstein? Brother Buzz Apr 2018 #3
oops!!! - fixed..or fixed news..LOL - my bad...but I did see Rick Springstein once... asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #4
I know where a Buffalo Springfield Steam Roller is reposing. Brother Buzz Apr 2018 #5
Buffalo Springsteen.... jberryhill Apr 2018 #6
More power to you brother SonofDonald Apr 2018 #7
If the deal falls through I'll start looking for a small steam shovel Brother Buzz Apr 2018 #9
That's nice, I go to the old tractor shows SonofDonald Apr 2018 #10
By the way... SonofDonald Apr 2018 #8
You bet. Scary huh? coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #11
November may be too late. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #2
I hope not coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #12
kick for visibility triron Apr 2018 #13
Thanks! coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #14
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2018 #15
Good to know coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #16
I hope Mueller can wrap up soon coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #17
Likely September. H2O Man Apr 2018 #18
I may try to ignore the whole thing coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #19

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
5. I know where a Buffalo Springfield Steam Roller is reposing.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:34 PM
Apr 2018

Restoring in to it's former glory is on my bucket list, and the owner is softening a bit

It's a lot rustier than this one and doesn't have the real attachment or the awning, but it's beautiful in my mind.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
7. More power to you brother
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:50 PM
Apr 2018

These old machines are so flippin cool to see in action, my Father was a lover of trains and passed it on to me.

A labor of love to be sure but so worth it when you fire off that boiler and bring her back to life.

Goosebumps....

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
9. If the deal falls through I'll start looking for a small steam shovel
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 06:14 PM
Apr 2018

She Who Must be Obeyed is fine if either one shows up; I'm a lucky person.

I was offered a sweat deal for an old Cleveland trencher, but I passed on it because it's gas powered.

Flippin cool is my Stover hit and miss engine, but I'm ready to up my game.


Mine is '37 and still installed in the mixer

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
10. That's nice, I go to the old tractor shows
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 08:23 PM
Apr 2018

In my area every year and see all sorts of gear like that.

I worked in the Chevron USA tank farm in Dutch Harbor Alaska for seven years, the tank farm was built in WWII and used three phase motors to pump out the underground tanks.

We were using the original portable International generator to power the pumps that they used in the 40's.

It had an opposed two cylinder pony motor to turn over the diesel to start it when you clutched it in.

Never rebuilt, I used it last in 1992 right before I left Dutch.

There were huge five hp DC motors down in the valve pits under the tanks that I drug out in the late 80's when we cleaned out the tunnels.

They knew how to build stuff back in the day, the technology wasn't quite there yet but the engineering was top notch.

Never obsolete, just old.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
8. By the way...
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:53 PM
Apr 2018

I'm the owner of a fully restored 1928 Model AA one ton flatbed.

90 years old, in the family when new and found and brought back to life by my Father and myself starting in 1974.

35 mph downhill with a tailwind.

But oh what a ride...

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
11. You bet. Scary huh?
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 09:43 PM
Apr 2018

The article gives a really nice timeline though. I found it helpful to understand the order that things happened.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
12. I hope not
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 09:45 PM
Apr 2018

and I refuse to believe that's true. If I believed that I may as well shoot myself and mail my ashes to mother Russia.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
15. Recommended.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 08:15 AM
Apr 2018

I strongly recommend Corn & Isikoff's book, which provides the best documentation of what was going on throughout this period. However, for those who haven't read it, I expect Mr. Mueller will be providing court filings that detail much more, very soon. His team has filed several sealed indictments in the past few months, that will be opened soon. Plus there will be more filed.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
17. I hope Mueller can wrap up soon
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 12:45 PM
Apr 2018

but it might be better for us if he wrapped up shortly before mid term elections.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
18. Likely September.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 04:20 PM
Apr 2018

Of course, it could be sooner or later. But we'll all be saying, "Later, asshole," to Trump.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
19. I may try to ignore the whole thing
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:04 AM
Apr 2018

until September happens. This has me all stressed out.

I really just want him gone but failing that I want the daily twitter ranting and raving to stop.

Since I can't MAKE it stop I may opt out of all news and do my best to ignore everything until its time to GOTV. Then I might volunteer.

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