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Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:20 PM Apr 2018

Feds Say They've Detected Apparent Rogue Spy Devices In D.C.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/04/599428495/feds-say-theyve-detected-apparent-rogue-spy-devices-in-d-c

In response to a query from Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden, DHS said that it has "observed anomalous activity in the National capital Region (NCR) that appears to be consistent with International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) catchers."

The agency added that it believes "the malicious use of IMSI catchers is a real and growing risk." Wyden wrote to DHS in November asking for information about the use of IMSI catchers by foreign intelligence agencies.

The devices, which can be as small as a suitcase, work by mimicking actual cell towers. NPR's L. Carol Ritchie explains:


"IMSI catchers trick cellphones into thinking they're connected, as normal, to a network like Verizon or AT&T. But the devices hijack the phone's signal, and in some cases, intercept the contents of calls and texts. The IMSI catchers take advantage of a vulnerability built into the system. Phones using 3G or 4G technology can authenticate cell towers, but phones on older 2G systems cannot tell between real and fake towers."



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Feds Say They've Detected Apparent Rogue Spy Devices In D.C. (Original Post) Snarkoleptic Apr 2018 OP
There are more advanced Stingrays that can fool 3G (that I know) and most likely 4G as well. NightWatcher Apr 2018 #1
Wonder how long they have been operating. triron Apr 2018 #2
And who's operting them. Snarkoleptic Apr 2018 #3
I would not put it past the RNC, too, not just foreign actors. nt Ilsa Apr 2018 #4
Unfortunately, I have to agree with at least the possibility. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #5
Holdup quakerboy Apr 2018 #7
I will never send banking or credit card info by cellphone FakeNoose Apr 2018 #6
I dont do banking MontanaMama Apr 2018 #8

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. There are more advanced Stingrays that can fool 3G (that I know) and most likely 4G as well.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:47 PM
Apr 2018

There is no privacy.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
3. And who's operting them.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:13 PM
Apr 2018

You would think each one has a traceable serial number, so that would be interesting to look into.

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
7. Holdup
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:11 PM
Apr 2018

I think you ought to be careful about trying to make a distinction between the RNC and foreign actors. It may not be justified in the current situation.

FakeNoose

(32,610 posts)
6. I will never send banking or credit card info by cellphone
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:08 PM
Apr 2018

... but I'm just old I guess. What the hell do old people know?

MontanaMama

(23,297 posts)
8. I dont do banking
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:13 PM
Apr 2018

or buy anything online with my phone either. Nor do I save passwords on my phone. That’s just smart IMO.

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