Thu Apr 5, 2018, 12:27 AM
Goodheart (3,157 posts)
Did I miss something? What was so damaging to Hillary in those Wikileaks-hacked emails?
What exactly did they prove about the Clinton Foundation, for example?
Or did Julian Assange b.s. their contents when he shopped them to Stone, Trump Jr, et al? Were they really worth going to prison over?
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Author | Time | Post |
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Goodheart | Apr 2018 | OP |
marylandblue | Apr 2018 | #1 | |
Skittles | Apr 2018 | #3 | |
Rorey | Apr 2018 | #7 | |
NCTraveler | Apr 2018 | #13 | |
Rorey | Apr 2018 | #18 | |
Cracklin Charlie | Apr 2018 | #2 | |
kentuck | Apr 2018 | #4 | |
JHB | Apr 2018 | #5 | |
democratisphere | Apr 2018 | #6 | |
Adrahil | Apr 2018 | #8 | |
Takket | Apr 2018 | #9 | |
maxrandb | Apr 2018 | #10 | |
uponit7771 | Apr 2018 | #11 | |
Orsino | Apr 2018 | #19 | |
NCTraveler | Apr 2018 | #12 | |
Squinch | Apr 2018 | #14 | |
Goodheart | Apr 2018 | #15 | |
Squinch | Apr 2018 | #20 | |
Kashkakat v.2.0 | Apr 2018 | #16 | |
Stinky The Clown | Apr 2018 | #17 |
Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM
marylandblue (12,329 posts)
1. There was nothing in the emails
At worst, they showed that DNC staff preferred Hillary over Bernie, not surprising considering she was a fixture in the Democratic Party for decades and he wasn't even a Democrat until primary season. The whole idea was to make it SEEM like something terrible was going on.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #1)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 01:09 AM
Skittles (133,209 posts)
3. amazing how many fucking idiots fell for it
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #1)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 06:05 AM
Rorey (6,009 posts)
7. Yeah, FuxNews does a lot of pearl-clutching and gasping
It doesn't matter what they say as much as how they say it. FuxNews makes "nothing" sound like "something" to their idiot cult followers.
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Response to Rorey (Reply #7)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:01 AM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
13. NBC pushed the email story nightly for months.
Simply repeating Trump campaign sound bites.
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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #13)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 08:02 AM
Rorey (6,009 posts)
18. They did
Ethics are absent in many instances. Anything for a buck, I guess.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 01:05 AM
Cracklin Charlie (9,283 posts)
2. Diversionary tactic.
So no one was matching them while they stole the election.
The incriminating emails never really existed. |
Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 04:43 AM
kentuck (100,653 posts)
4. Much was with how the emails were portrayed by the RNC, and in our media, and others.
It was almost like a conspiracy.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 04:56 AM
JHB (32,518 posts)
5. It was an excuse to refresh the great fogbank of steam.
The Republicans’ favorite tactic against Bill and Hillary Clinton, oh, since about 1991, has been to throw turdball after turdball at them so that some flecks might stick to them and they can rail at the filth.
Failing to do so, the turdballs slough off and pile up at their feet, giving off a great fogbank of steam. Republicans the point with alarm at the rising clouds and invoke “Y’know what they say: where there’s smoke...”. |
Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 05:12 AM
democratisphere (17,235 posts)
6. HRC ran for President. HRC did nothing wrong after all the investigations.
HRC won the popular vote by almost 4 million votes. drumpf the psychopath pathological liar was elected president. Go figure.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 06:44 AM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
8. Didn't you hear?
The DNC stuffed the ballot for Hillary, cheating Bernie of the nomination.
Oh wait, that's what the JPR idiots claimed. Nothing. There was nothing in there. There was a good risotto recipe in there, though. |
Response to Adrahil (Reply #8)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 06:48 AM
Takket (13,781 posts)
9. Something about Chelseas wedding cake I think lol
Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 06:55 AM
maxrandb (11,560 posts)
10. Nothing
It allowed them to blur the lines between "email server" and "email hack".
It didn't fucking matter to the fucking deplorables. All they cared about was keeping the words "Hillary" and "Email" in the news. Hell, they could have been cooking recipes...oh wait...some of them were. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE A BUNCH OF DUers, BERNIE-BROS AND RUSSIAN BOTS WHO HELPED THE DEPLORABLES DO THEIR FUCKING HATCHET JOB |
Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 06:57 AM
uponit7771 (73,881 posts)
11. She inhaled oxygen and then exhaled oxygen, to many that is a jail-able offense
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #11)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 08:06 AM
Orsino (37,416 posts)
19. While in possession of a uterus?
Capital crime.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 06:58 AM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
12. Deception and propaganda.
It worked well. Andrea Mitchell and many other were all about “but her emails” with no journalistic follow up. Today we are now praising a number of the same “journalists” as they work to bring us back into their profit fold. It’s disgusting.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:33 AM
Squinch (35,168 posts)
14. This was one of the areas where our messaging skills were shown to suck. There
was absolutely nothing in the hacked emails. There is never anything in the "scandals" that have been manufactured over Hillary. But the republican and Russian messaging was blanketing, shrill and relentless. We had nothing to match it to set the record straight.
A good PR firm, plus talking points for every Democrat speaking in any forum, would have gone a long way to prevent those lies from spreading. |
Response to Squinch (Reply #14)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:43 AM
Goodheart (3,157 posts)
15. As other posters here have said...
the most "scandalous" bit I got from them was that the DNC preferred Hillary over Bernie. And why wouldn't they?
Anyway, yesterday I was watching a tape of Roger Stone on Infowars, declaring on the day after he dined with Julian Assange that devastating information about the Clinton Foundation was about to be revealed. So it seems to me that either Assange lied about the contents of the emails when he pitched them to Stone, or that neither had actually reviewed any of them. And now Stone is in danger of going to prison. Serves him right. |
Response to Goodheart (Reply #15)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 08:17 AM
Squinch (35,168 posts)
20. Well.... the risotto recipe wasn't very good. So there was that...
But yes, I will have a moment of glee when Stone gets sentenced.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:50 AM
Kashkakat v.2.0 (1,586 posts)
16. Lets not forget that our own progressive media was often "All Trump All the Time" - dont know how
many times I had to turn off Thom H, Steph Miller and Alan Colmes (RIP) because of the nonstop blathering Trump clips they were playing. And by quoting/ reacting against/criticizing what the propagandists say, arent we basically doing their work for them, helping spread their message?
I dont know the answer, how do we turn that around, squelch the propaganda, and re-frame the debate? I just hope someone smarter than me is working on it in time for next election. Where is Don Draper when you need him - "If you dont like what they're saying about you, change the conversation." |
Response to Goodheart (Original post)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:56 AM
Stinky The Clown (62,686 posts)
17. The right wing created a brand call "Hillary's e-mails" and sold it.
The details don't matter. It was just THE EMAILS!1!1!!
It goes back to Benghazi. It revved up again with the emails "found" Weiner's laptop (sorry if that caused an inappropriate image flash). But but but . . . . . her EMAILS! See how that works? |