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jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:10 PM Apr 2018

Exhibit 409 in how hard itll be to rescue America from Trump

Google “jet fuel hoax.” This isn’t a 911 thing; it is worse.

According to this lie, which is starting to pick up steam, jet airplanes run on compressed air and not jet fuel. They have two “proofs”: the A380 wings are neither large enough nor strong enough to hold as much fuel as they do, and the name of commercial turbine fuel, Jet A, is short for “jet air.”

Anyone who’s ever been near a running jet can tell you this is bullshit, but pointing this out gets you labeled a paid shill or a government agent.

And this theory didn’t exist before Trump. Neither did the sudden resurgence in flat earth theories.

Why would they do this? Why run planes on compressed air (or race cars, or anything else not owned by common people)? To enslave us all, of course. If The Rich can run their A380s and yachts on air but you and I have to settle for expensive gasoline, they own us.

If “making the world stupider” isn’t an impeachable offense, it damn well should be.

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Exhibit 409 in how hard itll be to rescue America from Trump (Original Post) jmowreader Apr 2018 OP
That's one of nuttiest things I've ever heard. Liberal In Texas Apr 2018 #1
Millions of Americans hear voices talking to them jberryhill Apr 2018 #2
I lost IQ points finding that out.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #3
indeed. the stupid burns. the bell curve means way more stupid WHITE people. pansypoo53219 Apr 2018 #16
I work in the field of airport planning. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2018 #4
I worked in the fuel/petroleum industry SonofDonald Apr 2018 #5
I've been on my share of flight lines jmowreader Apr 2018 #14
I'm just hazarding a guess here... sdfernando Apr 2018 #6
Here's an actual locomotive that runs on compressed air, Girard442 Apr 2018 #8
If jets or turbine engines ran on air SonofDonald Apr 2018 #19
Something else I believe to be made up: the 'AR' of 'AR-15' equals 'Assault Rifle'. Aristus Apr 2018 #7
Hmmmmm ... GeorgeGist Apr 2018 #11
Interesting that the manufacturers and sellers call it an assault rifle (distinct from the Aristus Apr 2018 #13
The term "assault rifle" is like the word "teabagger" jmowreader Apr 2018 #17
Well put. Aristus Apr 2018 #18
Ironically, compressed air is expensive to make Takket Apr 2018 #9
It's more expensive than burning aviation fuel jmowreader Apr 2018 #12
i'm sure the 9/11 families would appreciate hearing that they were lied to about the jet fuel fire Takket Apr 2018 #21
Wow...that is really.... Bettie Apr 2018 #10
They have to use compressed air as the discharge is needed for the chemtrail dispersal grantcart Apr 2018 #15
That's nothing ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #20
Riiiiiiiigth. And not ONE of the literally 10's of 1000's of people who'd have to be involved in .. mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #22
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Millions of Americans hear voices talking to them
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:28 PM
Apr 2018

Look, even if you go with a low estimate of 1% of people in this country suffering from a full blown psychotic disorder, that's 3.2 million people.

In other words, there are more crazy people than there are people in any of the following states:

Iowa 3,090,416
Mississippi 2,991,207
Arkansas 2,959,373
Utah 2,900,872
Kansas 2,893,957
Nevada 2,790,136
New Mexico 2,085,287
Nebraska 1,868,516
West Virginia 1,854,304
Idaho 1,612,136
Hawaii 1,404,054
Maine 1,328,302
New Hampshire 1,323,459
Rhode Island 1,051,511
Montana 1,015,165
Delaware 925,749
South Dakota 844,877
Alaska 735,132
North Dakota 723,393
District of Columbia 646,449
Vermont 626,630
Wyoming 582,658

Think about that. If every single man, woman and child in Iowa was psychotic, do you think it would have much of an impact?

Well, that's what we have, but just not all in one state.

There are people who think it is fun to make up stuff like this just for the kick of getting people to believe it. Combine that with a sizeable number of stone-cold crazy people who nonetheless are relatively high-functioning, and that's what you have here. And, again, there are millions of them.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
4. I work in the field of airport planning.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:42 PM
Apr 2018

I frequently see reports of annual fuel sales for our airport clients. We help them site new fueling facilities on their airfields. We also help them obtain environmental clearance when old fueling facilities are removed or relocated.

So I guess all these reports, plans, and environmental documents we prepare are fake?

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
5. I worked in the fuel/petroleum industry
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:44 PM
Apr 2018

Jet "A" and A50 are jet fuel, a kerosene based fuel otherwise known as diesel number one, the A50 doesn't cloud until less than 50 below zero.

I handled millions of gallons of it during the 80's and 90's, we delivered it to the AIRPORT for use in AIRPLANES, we even had a pipeline to the airports tanks.

We stored it for the federal government and I've pulled samples and tested it in front of a government QAR (quality asurance representative) more than a few times

I've been drenched with it, wore it like a cologne for years, can't stand the smell of it to this day.

Blow's that conspiracy theory right out of water, maybe they should have asked one of the airplane refuelers that have reached a saturation point with it, they can't even be around it or they get sick.

Get a brain Morans.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
14. I've been on my share of flight lines
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:32 PM
Apr 2018

The smell of jet exhaust is pungent and unforgettable, and you smell it every time you walk around aircraft.

What's weird is, a lot of the people who speak out against these morans work in the aviation field with fuel...and they're all "government agents" trying to enslave the innocent population.

sdfernando

(4,930 posts)
6. I'm just hazarding a guess here...
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:59 PM
Apr 2018

but wouldn't the amount of compressed air necessary to power a jet airplane for even a short hop weight more that the jet fuel necessary to do the same work? Not to mention the heavy containers necessary to hold the compressed air.

Just a guess on my part but I'd venture that I'm correct. If I'm not I'll certainly take my lumps.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
8. Here's an actual locomotive that runs on compressed air,
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:17 PM
Apr 2018

Used in coal mines at one time. Notice that the compressed air tanks are bigger than the whole rest of the locomotive.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
19. If jets or turbine engines ran on air
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:53 PM
Apr 2018

Then you could just spin them up with an electrical motor until they suck in enough air to compress and "burn??" It.

Isn't air all around us?, never need to fuel a plane if that was true.

But then why do crashed aircraft catch on fire in huge fireballs?.

Anybody who believes this crap has shit for brains, period.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
7. Something else I believe to be made up: the 'AR' of 'AR-15' equals 'Assault Rifle'.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:04 PM
Apr 2018

I've been familiar with Armalite's rifles since I was a teenager, and have known about the designation of their semi-automatic, 5.56mm rifle - AR-15, for about as long.

Not until the Parkland shooting did I ever hear anyone assert that 'AR' stood for 'Assault Rifle' rather than Armalite.

I get the feeling the right-wingers made this shit up in order to accuse we gun-control advocates of ignorance about firearms. I don't know anyone who thinks 'AR' means 'Assault Rifle'...

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
13. Interesting that the manufacturers and sellers call it an assault rifle (distinct from the
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:28 PM
Apr 2018

designation AR...), but the gun-crazies throw a toddler tantrum if you call it an assault rifle. They will cite any one of a number of idiotic reasons why firearm X cannot possibly be an assault rifle.

The irony is, they want a gun that can kill the maximum number of people in the shortest possible time with the least amount of effort.

But they don't want the gun to have a scary name...

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
17. The term "assault rifle" is like the word "teabagger"
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:05 PM
Apr 2018

They loved both until they started to be used against them...and then you know what happened.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
12. It's more expensive than burning aviation fuel
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:26 PM
Apr 2018

And when someone points out that airplane crashes are usually accompanied by huge fireballs..."oh, that's just the hydraulic fluid and motor oil igniting."

Takket

(21,561 posts)
21. i'm sure the 9/11 families would appreciate hearing that they were lied to about the jet fuel fire
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:30 PM
Apr 2018

bringing down the towers.

Do these conspiracy theorists have any idea how hurtful their braindead games are?

Bettie

(16,090 posts)
10. Wow...that is really....
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:22 PM
Apr 2018

um, stupid isn't even the right word. I don't think there is a word for how crazy/stupid this is.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
20. That's nothing
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:01 PM
Apr 2018

My car runs on rubberband energy. It's a pain to crank up, but it runs silent and sweet once you get it going.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. Riiiiiiiigth. And not ONE of the literally 10's of 1000's of people who'd have to be involved in ..
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:39 PM
Apr 2018

Keeping this under wraps has ... and I mean nobody IN THE WORLD ... ever dared to 'break the silence' and confirm to the public that this is, indeed, the case?

Not one disgruntled employee from Boeing, Lockheed, Mc-Douglas, no one from the airplane engine makers like Rolls Royce, or the engineers that designed these engines, or the people (civilian or soldier) who fuel the 1000's of planes, nobody from any of the oil companies who'd know that they actually have nearly zero military or airline fuel contracts, nor the people responsible for loading tons and tons of compressed air onto the planes ... oh, and not one politician, and not one scientist nor FAA crash investigator ... NOT ONE has dared to spill the beans. For like 80 years.

Uh-huh.

Then there's also the minor fact that 'compressed air' does not exist in nature to any appreciable extent, you can't just mine for it or some shit. Ergo, in order to actually compress the needed quantities, there'd have to be huge manufacturing plants who would in turn be consuming at a fairly similar amount of energy in order to physically compress the air as would be present in the fuel that would've been burned. Thus pretty well negating the 'point' of enacting the scheme in the first place. Oh, and also, none of the people working at the 100's of air-compressing facilities that would logically be present very near every airport has blabbed about the scheme?

Oh, and what about the 1000's of people and corporations worldwide who own their OWN jet airplanes? None of them are letting on about 'the scheme'.

And the fact that not one of them has ... why that is just MORE proof of the conspiracy, and how POWERFUL the deep-state globalist masterminds behind this nefarious scheme to enslave us all REALLY are, right f-tards?

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