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BREAKING! FBI Raiding Michael Cohen's ofc (Original Post) RandomAccess Apr 2018 OP
Yep, "it was completely unnecessary". BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #1
Better safe than sorry RandomAccess Apr 2018 #3
Of course, Cohen's attorney should say exactly that. Mariana Apr 2018 #32
They raided his room at the Regency Hotel in NYC too. BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #34
Yeah, right. He gave all those documents to Nunes, after all. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #46
About damn time onecaliberal Apr 2018 #2
Yeah Gothmog Apr 2018 #4
NYT link is in LBN lamp_shade Apr 2018 #5
LINK --- RandomAccess Apr 2018 #11
KABOOM! Get thee to the greatest page malaise Apr 2018 #6
Did they move or destroy all the documents? kentuck Apr 2018 #7
Ohh lala....bet there's some heavy trump shit in those files. spanone Apr 2018 #8
Will he sing like a canary to save himself malaise Apr 2018 #9
well, trump just threw his ass under the bus on friday spanone Apr 2018 #12
And there will be no pardon malaise Apr 2018 #13
SAYS WHO???? spanone Apr 2018 #18
ROFL RandomAccess Apr 2018 #21
that one is priceless spanone Apr 2018 #25
LOL!! peggysue2 Apr 2018 #40
Beautiful. Autumn Apr 2018 #51
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Apr 2018 #24
He sure as hell did, span - and Cohen would TAKE A BULLET for his hair-brained mob boss Leghorn21 Apr 2018 #20
it will be fun watching them munch on each other spanone Apr 2018 #23
Oh look, its already in Mikies wiki page!! Leghorn21 Apr 2018 #45
😯👍🏼 spanone Apr 2018 #47
Mueller says, "Checkmate!" kentuck Apr 2018 #31
Was it the NY Prosecutors who did it? If so, no pardons for Cohen. writes3000 Apr 2018 #10
Ohhh, GOOD POINT RandomAccess Apr 2018 #14
Yep malaise Apr 2018 #15
The NY prosecutors executed the warrant NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #53
No it was United States Attorney in NY-Federal not State Pepsidog Apr 2018 #55
Yes, you're right NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #56
I agree Pepsidog Apr 2018 #60
The office is in Trump Tower. sunonmars Apr 2018 #16
Is it on the same floor where the fire was? csziggy Apr 2018 #27
Looks like Stinky the Clown RandomAccess Apr 2018 #28
K&R BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #17
Special teams of FBI lawyers are involved Gothmog Apr 2018 #19
Opsie Doopsie. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2018 #26
There is NO attorney-client privilege ... SeattleVet Apr 2018 #39
That is why special teams of attorneys need to review these documents Gothmog Apr 2018 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Apr 2018 #61
I learned a new legal term "taint team" Gothmog Apr 2018 #62
Here the DOJ manual Gothmog Apr 2018 #63
This makes me smile Bettie Apr 2018 #22
Or smart enough.... Xolodno Apr 2018 #36
The FBI raided Cohen's hotel also Gothmog Apr 2018 #29
After the raid on Manafort's home.... kentuck Apr 2018 #35
OMG.. this is it folks. honest.abe Apr 2018 #30
That's what I'm thinking. Mueller is super strategic, so he wouldn't be doing this now ecstatic Apr 2018 #58
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? ive been off news for about 2r hrs due to family stuff.... samnsara Apr 2018 #33
Hopefully Game Set Match colsohlibgal Apr 2018 #37
Pence is compromised through . . . peggysue2 Apr 2018 #41
Yay!!! backtoblue Apr 2018 #38
Statement from Michael Cohen's attorney Gothmog Apr 2018 #42
So, looks like Syria is in for some Shock and Awe (TM) tonight... Still In Wisconsin Apr 2018 #44
It is not Mueller but the US Attorney for SD NY doing the searches Gothmog Apr 2018 #48
Thanks for adding that RandomAccess Apr 2018 #50
Pundits saying probable cause had to be met at a higher level to get the warrant. lindysalsagal Apr 2018 #49
Yep! Lucinda Apr 2018 #54
Kicked the door of his office avebury Apr 2018 #52
Love it! ecstatic Apr 2018 #57
They must know there has been... duforsure Apr 2018 #59
From my twitter feed Gothmog Apr 2018 #64
Good one. For those w/out access, it says -- RandomAccess Apr 2018 #65
Former US Attorney Preet Bharara: "The likelihood that Michael Cohen is going to be charged is high Gothmog Apr 2018 #66

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
34. They raided his room at the Regency Hotel in NYC too.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:29 PM
Apr 2018

Completelyrosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search “completely inappropriate and unnecessary.”

SURE! I bet Manafort said the same thing.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
21. ROFL
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:15 PM
Apr 2018

My favorite video from this whole sordid experience.

Well, almost -- this one's a contender too (and I NEVER pass up a chance to post -- and watch it, even if it is slightly dated by now) --

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
20. He sure as hell did, span - and Cohen would TAKE A BULLET for his hair-brained mob boss
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

HAHAAAHAAA HAAAA

What a time to be alive!!!

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
45. Oh look, its already in Mikies wiki page!!
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:24 PM
Apr 2018
...”Prior to this appointment he was Executive Vice-President of the Trump Organization and special counsel to Trump.[3] Cohen also previously served as co-president of Trump Entertainment and a member of the board of the Eric Trump Foundation, a children's health charity.[4] He joined the Trump Organization after having been a partner at Phillips Nizer.[4] On 9 April 2018 the FBI raided his office in connection with a criminal investigation.[2]”




——Ohhhh yeah, this motherfucker knows everything——
 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
14. Ohhh, GOOD POINT
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:09 PM
Apr 2018

They were saying this was a way for Mueller not to accused of "mission creep" -- but you're right. That's a BIG deal. Thanks.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
53. The NY prosecutors executed the warrant
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:23 PM
Apr 2018

from a "referral" from Mueller. It sounds like Mueller found something that the NY people should know and let them know.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
39. There is NO attorney-client privilege ...
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:03 PM
Apr 2018

when the attorney and the client are engaged in a criminal act together.

Response to SeattleVet (Reply #39)

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
62. I learned a new legal term "taint team"
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 05:32 PM
Apr 2018

I looked for the DOJ manual but got sidetracked with this article https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cohen-attorney-client-privilege-goes-only-so-far-n864206

Of course, this raises a thorny issue: How do the agents and prosecutors review the documents for privilege status, if the entire point of privilege is that it's not supposed to be seen by people outside the lawyer's office, particularly members of law enforcement?

The U.S. Attorney's manual proposes a solution to that conundrum: A "taint team." Also called a "privilege team," this is a group, consisting of agents and lawyers not involved in the underlying investigation, brought in to review the privileged documents.

If this sounds like a strange fix, some courts agree, and have expressly disapproved of the government's use of taint teams to review documents, including the federal court in the same district where the search of Cohen's office occurred.

Some courts have even held that where the government uses a taint team, the government bears the burden to rebut the presumption that tainted material was improperly provided to the prosecution. Other courts have suggested that it would be preferable for the privilege review to be done by magistrate judge, and not a privilege team comprised of DOJ agents and lawyers

The term privilege team is better but I will not be able to get the term taint team out of my head

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
63. Here the DOJ manual
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 06:22 PM
Apr 2018

Here is part of the manual https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-9-13000-obtaining-evidence#9-13.420

9-13.420 - Searches of Premises of Subject Attorneys
NOTE: For purposes of this policy only, "subject" includes an attorney who is a "suspect, subject or target," or an attorney who is related by blood or marriage to a suspect, or who is believed to be in possession of contraband or the fruits or instrumentalities of a crime. This policy also applies to searches of business organizations where such searches involve materials in the possession of individuals serving in the capacity of legal advisor to the organization. Search warrants for "documentary materials" held by an attorney who is a "disinterested third party" (that is, any attorney who is not a subject) are governed by 28 C.F.R. 59.4 and USAM 9-19.221 et seq. See also 42 U.S.C. Section 2000aa-11(a)(3).

There are occasions when effective law enforcement may require the issuance of a search warrant for the premises of an attorney who is a subject of an investigation, and who also is or may be engaged in the practice of law on behalf of clients. Because of the potential effects of this type of search on legitimate attorney-client relationships and because of the possibility that, during such a search, the government may encounter material protected by a legitimate claim of privilege, it is important that close control be exercised over this type of search. Therefore, the following guidelines should be followed with respect to such searches:]

Here is the part dealing with privilege teams or taint teams
Review Procedures. The following review procedures should be discussed prior to approval of any warrant, consistent with the practice in your district, the circumstances of the investigation and the volume of materials seized.
Who will conduct the review, i.e., a privilege team, a judicial officer, or a special master.
Whether all documents will be submitted to a judicial officer or special master or only those which a privilege team has determined to be arguably privileged or arguably subject to an exception to the privilege.
Whether copies of all seized materials will be provided to the subject attorney (or a legal representative) in order that: a) disruption of the law firm's operation is minimized; and b) the subject is afforded an opportunity to participate in the process of submitting disputed documents to the court by raising specific claims of privilege. To the extent possible, providing copies of seized records is encouraged, where such disclosure will not impede or obstruct the investigation.
Whether appropriate arrangements have been made for storage and handling of electronic evidence and procedures developed for searching computer data (i.e., procedures which recognize the universal nature of computer seizure and are designed to avoid review of materials implicating the privilege of innocent clients).

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
36. Or smart enough....
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:36 PM
Apr 2018

...should Dump go down, he can plea bargain and become states witness. Otherwise, all the documents are on Dump's side and he's already thrown him under the bus.

Or...he really is a dumb ass to the highest degree.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
35. After the raid on Manafort's home....
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:32 PM
Apr 2018

One would think that Trump and his Lawyer would have moved or destroyed any evidence of criminal activity?

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
58. That's what I'm thinking. Mueller is super strategic, so he wouldn't be doing this now
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:57 PM
Apr 2018

unless it was icing on the cake or something. He has trump completely cornered, I think. Every move trump makes will make his situation worse.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
37. Hopefully Game Set Match
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:39 PM
Apr 2018

Pence is a repressed religious fanatic but not the loose cannon like the orange grifter.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
41. Pence is compromised through . . .
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:08 PM
Apr 2018

his 'work' on the transition team and covering for Flynn. This whole crew will eventually go down. There are no innocents within the Trump circle of Hell.

Dirty, all of them.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
49. Pundits saying probable cause had to be met at a higher level to get the warrant.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:38 PM
Apr 2018

They don't allow this for any small-ball stuff. They're saying that the fbi must have had real solid nasty evidence in order to get it.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
59. They must know there has been...
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:04 PM
Apr 2018

...destruction of evidence already going on. It'll be discovered elsewhere too I suspect. All the documentation will prove badly against many others now, and show destruction of evidence against others.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
65. Good one. For those w/out access, it says --
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:10 PM
Apr 2018

The Michael Cohen raid and attorney-client privilege: What is a "taint team" https://cnn.it/2qphZmy

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