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Tippy

(4,610 posts)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 02:43 PM Jul 2012

Can someone read this and point me in the right direction...

Naturally it is an attack on Obama...

real household income down $4300 since obamama took office

percentage of unemployed workers who've been out of a job for more than a year is over 30%.

The country has had the longest streak of +8% unemployment since the Depression under Obama: 42 months and counting

4) In 2011 under Barack Obama, nearly one out of every seven Americans was on food stamps. That's a 70 percent increase from 2007.

Fifty percent of new college graduates are underemployed or unemployed.

6) U.S. home ownership is at a decade long low. So is the number of Americans who say their home is worth more than they paid for it. Home prices are the lowest they've been since 2002.

7) Barack Obama ended NASA's manned space program.

8) Going into this election cycle, Barack Obama had raised more money from Wall Street than any Pre! sident in history. He has also raised more money from Wall Street than all of the GOP presidential contenders combined in this election cycle.

9) Under Barack Obama's leadership, the last time Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats passed a budget was April 9, 2009.

10) Barack Obama's budget was defeated 414-0 in the House and 99-0 in the Senate.

11) When he was running for President in 2008, Barack Obama pledged not to raise taxes on families making less than 250,000 dollars per year. He broke that promise with the tanning salon tax and with Obamacare, which raises almost 500 billion dollars in new taxes, a significant portion of which would be paid by people making less than 250,000 dollars per year.

12) When Barack Obama took office, gas was $1.95 per gallon. Today gas is $3.72 per gallon.

13) In February of this year, the federal government had a 229 billion dollar deficit. That was the largest deficit in the history of the United States.

14)America lost its AAA cre! dit rating (which it had held since 1917) on Obama's watch despite the fact that Timothy Geithner publicly said there was "no risk" of that happening.

15)Barack Obama added more to the debt in just 38 months than George Bush did in two full terms as President.

16) cost of Servents at white House; Weâ•˙re paying White House staffers $38 million yearly, according to Politico, plus looking at roughly $750 million to a billion dollars in campaign spending to support this president- and the best excuse he can come up with for his failed presidency is that heâ•˙s not a good story-teller?

"The mistake of my first term â•„ couple of years â•„ was thinking that this job was just about getting the policy right. And that's important. But the nature of this office is also to tell a story to the American people that gives them a sense of unity and purpose and optimism, especially during tough times," said the president.

Now he wants to make you believe he needs your $3.00 ! donation after all ready spending nearly $1,000,000,000.00 (that's One billion dollars) for campain expenses.

Still there many who just can't see the truth.

. $since obama took office

Thank in advance.....

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Can someone read this and point me in the right direction... (Original Post) Tippy Jul 2012 OP
Most of these if not all are results of several decades of bad management. nt NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #1
TOO MANY directions to point to, elleng Jul 2012 #2
I'll start by pointing you to the gop ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #3
I just did a quick look into #12 (gas) progressoid Jul 2012 #4
South. You need to go south. HubertHeaver Jul 2012 #5
Refutations linked here KurtNYC Jul 2012 #6
Here is an article that goes after this... chowder66 Jul 2012 #7
I want to thank each and everyone for your replies.. Tippy Jul 2012 #8

elleng

(130,848 posts)
2. TOO MANY directions to point to,
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jul 2012

but several numbers are directly related to/caused by House and/or Senate (filibusters) failure to act AT ALL, or reasonably:

9 + 10. Much of the rest is untrue, like 'added more to the debt.' and high deficit, or in no way caused by President Obama (like housing issues.)

As to 16, White House doesn't have servants, it has Federal Government employees, as it has had for ? MANY years.

As to 'tanning salon tax,' those people who voluntarily submit to these cancer-boxes SHOULD be taxed, imo, whether they make more or less than $250,000/year.

ACA 'tax' is for those who fail to provide themselves with insurance, so its a self-imposed 'tax.'

As to price of gas, no reasonable person thinks ANY President can control such, as there are too many factors at play. POTUS has encouraged Fed. agencies to look into 'manipulation' in the markets.

Others will probably respond further.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. I'll start by pointing you to the gop ...
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jul 2012

12 of the 16 talking points (exceptions for: 7, 11, 12 and 16) are directly related to gop obstruction, e.g., refusal to pass President Obama's Jobs Plan, holding the economy hostage to protect tax cut extensions for the wealthy, etc.

Then go to:

7#: Ask them, "I thought the deficit was important? You might not agree with the program choice that was made; but this cut was a cut to the budget."

#11: This is just, factually, not true. Adding a tax to Tanning Salons no more increases taxes to the working class than buying more gas does. And, the ObamaCare claim has been repeatedly refuted.

#12: This President has little impact on gas prices; unlike the previous President who allowed oil industry executive write the U.S. energy plans.

#16: The Congressional staffing budget dwarfs that of the Whitehouse ANF the former has risen significantly faster the the latter. Ask them so what is your beef?

progressoid

(49,964 posts)
4. I just did a quick look into #12 (gas)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jul 2012
12) When Barack Obama took office, gas was $1.95 per gallon. Today gas is $3.72 per gallon.


So, that would mean that it was GWB's fault that gas peaked at $4.12?

http://66.70.86.64/ChartServer/ch.gaschart?Country=Canada&Crude=t&Period=96&Areas=USA%20Average,,&Unit=US%20



I don't have time to address them all. Some are accurate even though hyperbolic. Others carefully ignore outside factors. And some are just wrong.

Is this a battle you want to fight?

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. Refutations linked here
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jul 2012
http://digg.com/news/politics/15_facts_that_even_obama_s_biggest_supporters_should_be_able_to_admit_are_true_1

This list has been around since at least May.

The short version of the refutation is:

The GOP recklessly drove the economy into a ditch, approved TARP and have dragged their feet and opposed every measure to get the economy back on it's feet. Now they want the keys again. When you drunkenly drive your car into the ditch, you don't get to drive the tow truck.

chowder66

(9,066 posts)
7. Here is an article that goes after this...
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jul 2012

"John Hawkins wrote a story for Townhall.com called "15 facts that even Obama's biggest supporters should be able to admit are true". The first half of the list is solidly grounded in fact, but requires disclaimers that render them pointless in the context of supposedly educating supporters of President Obama.

The other half are lies

I haven't fact-checked these claims and given the lack of evidence to support them from Hawkins, they should all be taken with a grain of salt until someone digs into all of them. But they sound plausible enough. What matters then is context. All of these facts would be true no matter who the President is, be it Barack Obama or John McCain. All of these things are the direct result of the worst recession since the Great Depression, which economics professor and Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman has taken to calling the Lesser Depression.

None of them have anything to do with government policy. Food stamp usage was increasing well before President Obama won the election, just as unemployment was skyrocketing heading in 2009. The reason that Hawkins chose 2007 as the year to begin counting in fact #4 is because that's when usage began to increase, two years before Barack Obama was elected President and the exact year the recession began. That's 17 months before the 2008 general election."


much much more at link

http://pwtenny.newsvine.com/_news/2012/05/24/11867586-watch-as-the-right-distorts-facts-lies-and-spreads-political-propaganda






Tippy

(4,610 posts)
8. I want to thank each and everyone for your replies..
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jul 2012

I have not been well and sometimes it's difficult for me to even locate material A friend asked me to help with this and I absolutely drew a blank. This is from a face book post, and the person who posted this needed to be set straight so the readers knew what the real facts are, so many lies have been spread, enough is enough... I knew I could count on DU...You guys are great...Since I have such a problem typing would mind If I just linked to this thread and let them figure it out for themselves?

Thanks again

Tippy

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