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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:32 PM Jul 2012

Report: Offshoring Of Manufacturing Capacity Leaves America Vulnerable, Unprepared

http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2012/07/report_offshori.htm

July 30, 2012

Report: Offshoring Of Manufacturing Capacity Leaves America Vulnerable, Unprepared

-- by Dave Johnson

<snip>The report, which (Tom) Ridge shared with homeland security officials Tuesday morning, warns that the offshoring of U.S. factories means that rebounding from a catastrophe will be more difficult because so many critical supplies would have to come from overseas.

We are a country at risk because we’ve ignored the gradual erosion of our manufacturing basis,” he said in an interview. “We’ve ignored the need to rebuild the nation’s infrastructure.”

Citing the aftermath of disasters such at Hurricane Katrina and the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the report adds to the long-running debate over whether the offshoring of U.S. manufacturing has harmed the nation.

“At a time when the frequency of large-scale disasters seems to be increasing, the U.S. seems to be at an all-time low in terms of being able to supply our own critical needs,” said Scott Paul, director of the Alliance for Manufacturing, which sponsored the report by Ridge and Robert B. Stephan, who was an assistant secretary of homeland security from 2005 to 2008.

Paul said, for example, that half of the world’s steel comes from China.

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Report: Offshoring Of Manufacturing Capacity Leaves America Vulnerable, Unprepared (Original Post) NNN0LHI Jul 2012 OP
kr HiPointDem Jul 2012 #1
Only certain politicians and the 1% have ignored it. Everyone else got that memo nc4bo Jul 2012 #2
wow...I guess these are the "advantages" to outsourcing that Hillary mentioned antigop Jul 2012 #3
She only talks about outsourcing in two paragraphs. Odd you would leave this one out? NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #5
improving education isn't going to solve anything IF THEY KEEP OUTSOURCING JOBS antigop Jul 2012 #11
and here.... antigop Jul 2012 #12
Advantages go also to shareholders, i.e., the already rich. closeupready Jul 2012 #8
Doesn't take a memo to realize that. When the country doesn't manufacture much anymore, shraby Jul 2012 #4
Well, that statement is a candidate for the "Duh!" award for the week. amandabeech Jul 2012 #6
Why would he do that? NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #9
In A WWII Scenario We Would Have To Surrender In A Few Days TheMastersNemesis Jul 2012 #7
We're still the largest manufacturer in the world 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #14
I've called it "economic terrorism" for some time. Because that's what it is. Brickbat Jul 2012 #10
It's certainly a national security issue. nt DCKit Jul 2012 #17
Very few nations and no first world nations could weather any significant disruption 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #13
How are we going to survive the idea of that once it gets understood? nolabels Jul 2012 #15
Gosh, nobody could have anticipated that. tanyev Jul 2012 #16

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
2. Only certain politicians and the 1% have ignored it. Everyone else got that memo
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

many, many years ago. Saw it coming like NOAA can see Africa sling off a hurricane.

The greedy took it away. Now that it's gone, those same greedy will come back like some psycho-savior and make another fortune.



antigop

(12,778 posts)
3. wow...I guess these are the "advantages" to outsourcing that Hillary mentioned
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:44 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ndtv-exclusive-hillary-clinton-on-fdi-mamata-outsourcing-and-hafiz-saeed-full-transcript-207593


Hillary Clinton: So you are talking about the outsourcing of US jobs to India. We know it's been going on for many years now and it's part of our economic relationship with India and I think there are advantages with it that have certainly benefitted many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to improve the job fields of our own people and create a better economic environment so it's like anything like the pluses and minuses.


The advantages are to the corporations and corporate executives, not the working stiffs.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
5. She only talks about outsourcing in two paragraphs. Odd you would leave this one out?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jul 2012

Hillary Clinton: Well you know it's an election campaign and there is an obligation in any election campaign ...

(NDTV: to overstate?)

... well I'll not go that far to say overstate but to talk about what's on people's minds and it's more directed towards the fear that a lot of Americans who are in manufacturing, who don't feel like that they have any other job possibility because they are not trained for any other job possibilities. So it's a legitimate issue, it needs to be aired, but I think the President has been clear that he wants to develop our own exports, we are on the way of doubling our exports, he wants to improve education, skills training so that people can have a job in the 21st century, so it's fair to talk about and you also have to have a solution that looks to where we are going to work.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
11. improving education isn't going to solve anything IF THEY KEEP OUTSOURCING JOBS
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jul 2012

so big deal...people get trained...only to have the good paying jobs go overseas.

lots of info here:
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4836695

shraby

(21,946 posts)
4. Doesn't take a memo to realize that. When the country doesn't manufacture much anymore,
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jul 2012

it certainly can't replace what gets broken without importing it.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
6. Well, that statement is a candidate for the "Duh!" award for the week.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

Now, Mr. Tom, what are you going to do about it?

Buy a basic manufacturing plant in Pennsylvania, renovate it and start making something useful?

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
9. Why would he do that?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jul 2012

When he knows the average American consumer will purchase the cheapest imported or non-union made gizmo available. Even if doing that would put their neighbor out of work or not have jobs available for their children when they need one.

I know I wouldn't if I could. What for? So China or some right to work state could drive me out of business undercutting my prices until I go bankrupt?

Would you do that if you could?

Don

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
7. In A WWII Scenario We Would Have To Surrender In A Few Days
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jul 2012

In WWII we supplied almost all the war materials to our allies as well as ourselves. No one had any manufacturing left to speak of.
We have give most of that capacity to the Communist Chinese.

The only way we will learn is if we get our asses handed to us militarily.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
13. Very few nations and no first world nations could weather any significant disruption
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jul 2012

of international trade.

The days of self-sufficient nation states are over. We can go back to those times but that also means living like it's the 1800s or earlier.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
15. How are we going to survive the idea of that once it gets understood?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:14 PM
Jul 2012

The need for a one world government is knocking at the front door and nobody of any authority would dare open it or even talk about it. In the mean time, crooks, hoarder billionaires and religious zealots will continue to rake us over the coals

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