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highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 09:41 AM Apr 2018

Preet Bharara to Trump: 'Long live the crime-fraud exception'

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382430-preet-bharara-to-trump-long-live-the-crime-fraud-exception


Former U.S. attorney Preet Bharara responded to President Trump after he tweeted that the attorney-client privilege is "dead."

"Long live the crime-fraud exception," Bharara — whom President Trump fired last year after he refused to resign from his post — tweeted Tuesday.

The crime-fraud exception means that a client's communications with an attorney isn't privileged if it "involves communications in furtherance of a contemplated or ongoing crime or fraud," according to the American Bar Association.

Trump tweeted earlier Tuesday morning that “attorney–client privilege is dead” after it was reported Monday that the FBI raided the office and hotel room of Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.

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Preet Bharara to Trump: 'Long live the crime-fraud exception' (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2018 OP
Imagine what Mr. Bharara knows PJMcK Apr 2018 #1
he's made some great comments on Twitter NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #4
Yes! Preet is awesome!! SkyDaddy7 Apr 2018 #32
Link? True Blue American Apr 2018 #36
Sorry I was away... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2018 #43
Thank you.:) True Blue American Apr 2018 #44
Sure! SkyDaddy7 Apr 2018 #45
That sounds great NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #42
YES!! You must!! SkyDaddy7 Apr 2018 #46
K&R for visibility meow2u3 Apr 2018 #2
Going to the mattresses jayschool2013 Apr 2018 #3
And ... long live the U.S. Constitution FakeNoose Apr 2018 #5
KICK4Preet's Tweet! Cha Apr 2018 #6
Thanks! highplainsdem Apr 2018 #22
Again! Cha Apr 2018 #27
What a legal bench Dems have, Preet and Sally Yates, elleng Apr 2018 #7
Not to mention Barack Obama Thunderbeast Apr 2018 #21
THAT is what I'm dreaming of. kag Apr 2018 #31
It's hilarious how someone with no regard for the rule of law malaise Apr 2018 #8
The "crime-fraud exception" was created for people like Trump and Cohen. kentuck Apr 2018 #9
From Betty Bowers Gothmog Apr 2018 #10
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #25
Now, if he'd only conspired with a priest... n/t malthaussen Apr 2018 #11
+1 nt Gore1FL Apr 2018 #30
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #12
Trump's tweets are all aimed at his low-information voters. Nitram Apr 2018 #13
True. Its highly likely Fox & Friends were saying that. poboy2 Apr 2018 #23
Sweet Preet tweet! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2018 #14
Ha-ha!!!! MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #40
Another one of tRump's stupid firings Maeve Apr 2018 #15
Trump has apparently lived his whole life without ever being held responsible.... usaf-vet Apr 2018 #16
A Nice Summarization... Corktown Apr 2018 #17
Welcome to DU! Ligyron Apr 2018 #18
welcome to DU gopiscrap Apr 2018 #24
Welcome to DU, Corktown! LisaM Apr 2018 #28
Welcome to a great board True Blue American Apr 2018 #34
Welcome! GreenEyedLefty Apr 2018 #39
Welcome, Corky! MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #41
Bahaha! I live all of the high profile people egging Trump on blake2012 Apr 2018 #19
This needs to heard everywhere pandr32 Apr 2018 #20
When a Democrat wins the White House, maybe he should be Attorney General. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #26
if I was on twitter, the two people I would follow are Dr. Tyson and Mr. Bharara Skittles Apr 2018 #29
Trump made a bad mistake True Blue American Apr 2018 #35
yes Skittles Apr 2018 #37
That has to hurt! True Blue American Apr 2018 #33
K&R BlueJac Apr 2018 #38

PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
1. Imagine what Mr. Bharara knows
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 09:49 AM
Apr 2018

In all likelihood, Mr. Bharara has first-hand knowledge of Trump's malfeasance. He's too much of a professional, however, to speak of his knowledge.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
32. Yes! Preet is awesome!!
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 01:16 AM
Apr 2018

If you’re into listening to podcast one of my favorite, well, to be honest at this point in time MY FAVORITE PODCAST is “Stay Tuned w/Preet”. The format is Preet Baharara usually interviewing someone who is very well respected & indirectly or directly related to current events. Plus, Preet ALWAYS gives his honest opinion on where he sees the Mueller investigation going as updates come in.

His podcast are usually posted every Thursday so I’m very interested in what he has to say about the lastest developments.

One thing I love about Preet Is he is able to see a topic or issue from many different angles & this enables him to ask his guest really good thought provoking questions & even play Devil’s advocate sometimes...The result is a wonderful conversation between Preet & guest that is not only entertaining but very informative for the audience!! IMHO.

Also...This May sound odd but Preet’s voice is unique & has a very soothing relaxing tone to it which just adds to the enjoyment.

Edit to say…Preet has obviously tweaked his abilities interviewing people as a US Attorney & created a really awesome podcast!!

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
43. Sorry I was away...
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 10:44 PM
Apr 2018

All I know to tell you is I use the podcast app “OVERCAST” & within the app search “Tune In with Preet”...But you can use any podcast app.

Hope that helps.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
42. That sounds great
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 08:46 AM
Apr 2018

I've never listened to any podcasts ever, but that sounds like it could be a first to at least try.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
46. YES!! You must!!
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:50 PM
Apr 2018

You will really like Preet’s podcast!

Also, look up “POD SAVE THE AMERICA”
“The podcast debuted in January 2017 and airs twice weekly, with the Monday edition hosted by former Barack Obama staffers Jon Favreau, Tommy Vietor and Jon Lovett, and the Thursday edition by Favreau and Dan Pfeiffer.”

…And also “POD SAVE THE WORLD”
“…hosted by former (President Obama) White House National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor.”

I love both of these especially “POD SAVE AMERICA”...They are very entertaining & even funny! Most of all they cover everything that is going on, have good guest & IMHO provide a good service!

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
3. Going to the mattresses
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 09:49 AM
Apr 2018

Sounds to me as if Trump might be ready to go to the mattresses, if needed. He needs to be stopped as soon as legally possible.

Thunderbeast

(3,404 posts)
21. Not to mention Barack Obama
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 12:27 PM
Apr 2018

......for SCOTUS when the Neil Gorsuch impeachment (fruits of the poisoned tree and all that) is executed.

kag

(4,079 posts)
31. THAT is what I'm dreaming of.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:34 PM
Apr 2018

He would make such an incredible SCJ. Maybe Michelle could take Thomas's seat when he kicks.

Oh, how I wish sometimes that I believed in a god so I could pray to her for this to come true.

malaise

(268,866 posts)
8. It's hilarious how someone with no regard for the rule of law
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:09 AM
Apr 2018

can pick and choose the parts that he thinks protects him.

Don the Con's con is over.

kentuck

(111,074 posts)
9. The "crime-fraud exception" was created for people like Trump and Cohen.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:15 AM
Apr 2018

Who try to use the law to protect themselves from any criminal prosecution.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
13. Trump's tweets are all aimed at his low-information voters.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:30 AM
Apr 2018

Unfortunately for Trump, they probably really don't get attorney-client privilege in the first place. Too many syllables.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
23. True. Its highly likely Fox & Friends were saying that.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 04:34 PM
Apr 2018

He's a big fan and watches every day for tips.

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
16. Trump has apparently lived his whole life without ever being held responsible....
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:45 AM
Apr 2018

...... for any of his miss deeds. He has managed to buy, bribe,threaten and good old buddy his way out of trouble. He has convinced himself he is above the law (another one of his lies he believes). Now let's hope the time for reckoning has finally come.

I'm hoping they get him and Cohen for bank fraud, income tax fraud and money laundering. All which should fall under RICO. At least as a non-lawyer I'm hoping.

Corktown

(22 posts)
17. A Nice Summarization...
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:52 AM
Apr 2018

Last edited Tue Apr 10, 2018, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)

For my first post, may I offer this as a concise primer on the search of Cohen's properties. As a note, I'm employed on a military base, and as I often joke, I'm "one of the five liberals authorized to work there, we even have to wear a scarlet "L"! ". One of my Faux-news fanatic co-workers was apoplectic when the news broke, and screamed (literally!) out for the "investigation" of all the Democratic figures that these folks usually do in these moments, despite my efforts to explain the very solid legal basis that's needed to exist for something like this to move forward. Sad!....

[link:http://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/opinions/raid-on-michael-cohen-office-callan/index.html|

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
39. Welcome!
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 06:28 AM
Apr 2018

I work on the opposite side of town and am also one of a scant few Democrats in my office. Lots of meaningful glances and secret hand signals.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
41. Welcome, Corky!
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 06:38 AM
Apr 2018

You might want to point out how many Republicans were on the legal team that brought about this latest raid of Cohen's properties. THAT should shut them up (well, at least for a bit!).

 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
19. Bahaha! I live all of the high profile people egging Trump on
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 12:01 PM
Apr 2018

Because there are so many targets on social media lobbing hand grenades and they are not in sensitive positions any longer, it is asymmetric warfare on the Orange con.

He either can’t hit back twice as hard on every target this making him look weak and ineffectual to his cro-magnon crowd or he is tied up all day fighting people like this thus actually making him weak and ineffectual.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
20. This needs to heard everywhere
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 12:11 PM
Apr 2018

I'll bet most people had no idea there was this exception and it flies in the face (with a hard slap) of the Republican claims of "witch hunt!"

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
37. yes
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 04:51 AM
Apr 2018

I believe Mr. Bharara is widely respected and some people feel insulted with Trump's assumption they are there to protect his corrupt ass

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
33. That has to hurt!
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 04:29 AM
Apr 2018

Poor, Trump. He had dinner with Alan Dershowitz last night. The last of his supporters in the legal world.

Even Jonathon Turley has quit defending Trump.

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