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GObamaGO

(665 posts)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:35 PM Jul 2012

Looks like Chik-Fil-A may be in more trouble

Chick-Fil-A Owner Fires Woman In Order To Make Her A Stay At Home Mom

In a recent lawsuit filed against the owner of a franchise in Duluth, GA as well as against the parent company of Chick-Fil-A is but the latest strike against the troubled fast food chain, as new allegations of gender discrimination have come to light.

Within the court briefing, it is revealed that Brenda Honeycutt, the store’s General Manager with 21 years of service under her belt, found herself frozen out of management meetings and eventually replaced in that role with a male hired by her store’s owner, Jeff Howard, earlier this year. This came after 5 other female employees found themselves demoted or terminated in the past year despite high performance metrics. The owner allegedly made it clear to Ms Honeycutt as well as others that the termination was a move designed to force Ms Honeycutt into a role as a stay-at-home mother.



http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/30/chick-fil-a/
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Looks like Chik-Fil-A may be in more trouble (Original Post) GObamaGO Jul 2012 OP
What a douche bag! nt longship Jul 2012 #1
and this is surprising why? mzteris Jul 2012 #2
I never said it was surprising GObamaGO Aug 2012 #38
"Bible" views HockeyMom Jul 2012 #3
One of the groups they donated too claims credit for the VA vaginal ultrasound bill. Sirveri Jul 2012 #37
This lawyer smells a class action hifiguy Jul 2012 #4
oh yah.......this is going to get very expensive for them. yourout Jul 2012 #6
not a lawyer but was amazed at how blatant this franchise owner was. unapatriciated Jul 2012 #24
because Jeezus would want those women discriminated against.... Raster Jul 2012 #33
question... rateyes Jul 2012 #29
Even in right to work states, you can't discriminate. unapatriciated Jul 2012 #30
thanks rateyes Jul 2012 #34
I used to work for the agency that enforced those laws in SC nxylas Aug 2012 #40
This isn't correct obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #43
With pre-established history of discriminatory behavior by the principal. toddwv Jul 2012 #31
The chickfila dude sounds like one of those Promise Keepers NightWatcher Jul 2012 #5
They learned nothing from the news about WalMart lawsuits? Ilsa Jul 2012 #7
What would they learn? former9thward Jul 2012 #8
My bad. I had not remembered that the Sups had ruled. Ilsa Jul 2012 #10
That's what happens when you hire lawyers based on TriplD Jul 2012 #11
Perhaps they did... -..__... Jul 2012 #17
This is at the executive level lunatica Jul 2012 #28
Each and every Chick Fil A location is owned 100% by Chick Fil A Company Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #36
That is not true GObamaGO Aug 2012 #41
Given his views this is not surprising abelenkpe Jul 2012 #9
in this day and age that is just plain stupid rurallib Jul 2012 #12
Keep digging. Keep digging. Eventually you'll dig a whole deep enough to bury yourself. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #13
Or as I call 'em: Chick-Fail-A 47of74 Jul 2012 #14
There goes . . . aggiesal Jul 2012 #15
Un-fucking-believable. Curmudgeoness Jul 2012 #16
Ann agrees with Mittens that 'those people' should work outside the home. As her maid, likely, but.. freshwest Jul 2012 #18
I posted that on my FB page. Curmudgeoness Jul 2012 #19
They envision a world where women have no autonomy GObamaGO Jul 2012 #22
The anti progress party. They want to.take us back to the dark ages. Initech Jul 2012 #20
Well Chick-fil-fuckin-A!!! Blue Owl Jul 2012 #21
K&R ck4829 Jul 2012 #23
More troubles regarding their family values..... unapatriciated Jul 2012 #25
This is how to do it! MADem Jul 2012 #26
Give them a mik and let them keep digging lunatica Jul 2012 #27
That was illegal in the 1960s. McCamy Taylor Jul 2012 #32
And yet so many DUers have said Chick Fil A does not discriminate in any way Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #35
Yes, I found myself scratching my head at all of that. GObamaGO Aug 2012 #39
This is against Federal and State law obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #42

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
2. and this is surprising why?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jul 2012

They're good "cuhrisjuns" and wimminfolk are supposed to stay at home. Jobs are for MEN. Women just birth babies and do house work. And uh - service - their overlord, I mean husband - whenever he wants.

GObamaGO

(665 posts)
38. I never said it was surprising
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 03:46 AM
Aug 2012

I was just basking in the schadenfreude of their change of fortunes. The gender discrimination is just the icing on the cake.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
3. "Bible" views
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:45 PM
Jul 2012

As a woman's place is in the home, married, and making as many babies as possible. Chik-Fil-A is not only Anti-Gay, Anti-Non-Christian, but Anti-Female, and Anti-Unmarried as well.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
37. One of the groups they donated too claims credit for the VA vaginal ultrasound bill.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jul 2012

No woman should ever eat there, unless they support rape by the state.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
24. not a lawyer but was amazed at how blatant this franchise owner was.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 06:50 AM
Jul 2012

In reading the complaint, it look like every woman working for him in any type of management position was demoted after what appeared to be the common thread of motherhood.

I doubt this is only occurring at this location.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
33. because Jeezus would want those women discriminated against....
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jul 2012

...don't they know their place is in the home?

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
29. question...
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:05 AM
Jul 2012

In GA, being a right to work state, one can be terminated for no reason whatsoever without notice. How will this affect a lawsuit for wrongful termination?

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
30. Even in right to work states, you can't discriminate.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:14 AM
Jul 2012
DISCRIMINATION

Age: The Age Discrimination in Employment Act prohibits discrimination against workers who are 40 years of age or older. The law applies to all private employers with 20 or more employees, employment agencies and certain labor unions. Georgia law provides it is a misdemeanor to discriminate in hiring and employment against individuals between the ages of 40 and 70.

Bankruptcy: Generally, federal law prohibits discrimination in employment decisions against people who have declared bankruptcy.

Disability: Employers are prohibited from engaging in discrimination against qualified individuals with a disability by the Georgia Equal Employment for People with Disabilities Code, The Rehabilitation Act of 1973 and the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990. A "qualified individual with a disability" is an individual who possesses the requisite skills, experience, education, and other job-related requirements of the position and who can perform the essential functions of the job with or without reasonable accommodation. An "individual with a disability" is a person with a physical or mental impairment which substantially limits one or more major life activities, has a record of such impairment or is regarded by the employer as having such an impairment. The determinatin of whether a person is “disabled” should be made with reference to measures that might mitigate that individual’s impairment, including medicine or eye glasses. Typical "major life activities" are caring for oneself, performing manual tasks, walking, hearing, speaking, breathing, learning and working. "Reasonable accommodation" might include making existing facilities accessible to the disabled, restructuring jobs, reassigning work or otherwise modifying schedules, or revising employment tests. An employer is not required to create a job that does not already exist. An accommodation is not reasonable where it would cause the employer undue hardship (significant difficulty or expense).

Equal Pay: The Equal Pay Act and Georgia law forbid employers to pay different wages to men and women who are performing equal jobs.

Pregnancy: The Pregnancy Discrimination Act prohibits discrimination because of or on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions. Women affected by pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions shall be treated the same for all employment-related purposes, including receipt of benefits, as other persons not so affected but similar in their ability or inability to work.

Race, Color, Religion, Sex or National Origin: Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination (any adverse employment action) by employers of 15 or more employees, employment agencies, and labor organizations on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin.

Section 1981 prohibits discrimination against employees based on their race.

Retaliation: The law prohibits employers from retaliating against their employees for asserting their rights to be free of discrimination.

Sexual Orientation: There is currently no Federal or Georgia law prohibiting discrimination against employees based on their sexual orientation.[div class=




http://sos.georgia.gov/firststop/georgia_employers.htm

Federal law trumps, but you have to prove they used discrimation when terminating.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
40. I used to work for the agency that enforced those laws in SC
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 04:42 AM
Aug 2012

As you say, you can't legally discriminate even in right-to-work states, though discrimination can often be hard to prove. In this case, however, there's a clear pattern of discrimination. Without a full investigation, I can't say for sure what the Human Affairs Commission's ruling would be had the complaints been made in South Carolina. But based on my experience there, it wouldn't surprise me if the complaints were upheld.

obamanut2012

(26,049 posts)
43. This isn't correct
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:43 AM
Aug 2012

You cannot terminate anyone for being black, hispanic, married, single, disabled, female, etc.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
31. With pre-established history of discriminatory behavior by the principal.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jul 2012

That's got to be a CAL's wet dream...

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. The chickfila dude sounds like one of those Promise Keepers
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jul 2012

Gotta keep the womenfolk at home where they can stay barefoot and pregnant. They need to know their role....


Nice crowd there

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
7. They learned nothing from the news about WalMart lawsuits?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 08:03 PM
Jul 2012

The lawyers and HR for Chickfila must be I'll-informed idiots.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
10. My bad. I had not remembered that the Sups had ruled.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jul 2012

I was still thinking of massive suit brought through the system.

TriplD

(176 posts)
11. That's what happens when you hire lawyers based on
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jul 2012

their "Christian values" as opposed to their legal knowledge.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
17. Perhaps they did...
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:34 PM
Jul 2012

Or it was never their policy to begin with.

This comes from one franchise out of 1,614 and there's no evidence (so far), that this policy/abuse came from upper level management; nor is there any evidence of a wide spread/pattern of abuse that went on for years and was ignored by corporate officials.

It's all on the shoulders of the one ignorant jack ass that managed the franchise.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. Each and every Chick Fil A location is owned 100% by Chick Fil A Company
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:44 PM
Jul 2012

The stores are not owned, they are 'operated' by a company selected 'operator' who hold no equity share whatsoever.

GObamaGO

(665 posts)
41. That is not true
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:31 AM
Aug 2012

Chick-Fil-A offers franchises. They are a bit more controlling about who gets a franchise, (and each franchisee can only operate one store), and where the locations can be, but the franchisee appears to own the location.

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Company/Careers-Franchise-Opportunity

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
9. Given his views this is not surprising
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 08:18 PM
Jul 2012

I was just arguing with a friend over the whole Chic-Fil-A stuff that given their views on gay marriage why would anyone believe they thought women deserved equal pay for equal work, or even that they thought women should do anything but be baby making machines subservient to men?

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
13. Keep digging. Keep digging. Eventually you'll dig a whole deep enough to bury yourself.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jul 2012

I don't know why companies feel compelled to self-destruct like this, but my bet is on a planned exit for the executives, leaving the franchise owners to wallow in chicken shit.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
16. Un-fucking-believable.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jul 2012

And how do they expect some women to feed and cloth their kids without a job? Or will they pay these women to stay home? Oops, my bad, that sounds like welfare.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Ann agrees with Mittens that 'those people' should work outside the home. As her maid, likely, but..
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:54 PM
Jul 2012

I wonder if this the backdoor to polygamy. After all, if the women can't all find work, they can just join a harem. Those who can find work outside the home, can. Those who can't, will stay at home and take care of the working wives' kids.

It'll all be just one big happy family ruled over by some viagra pumped up, book thumping prick. Great future for the women of this country as envisioned by the GOP.


Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
19. I posted that on my FB page.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jul 2012

I love it.

I hope that you are over-reacting, but I agree that it is scary as hell to even think of Romney Rule!

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
25. More troubles regarding their family values.....
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:15 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-4-women-claim-they-were-sexually-harassed-at-chickfila-20120105,0,2055463.story

edited to add: that this happened in January, family value problems is not a new thing for this company. I wonder if this case has gone to court and how it turned out.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. This is how to do it!
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:20 AM
Jul 2012

Get 'em for workplace discrimination like this, like forcing people to pray, etc.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. And yet so many DUers have said Chick Fil A does not discriminate in any way
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jul 2012

How they are privy to that infomation I don't know, but man they assure us that the company is just golden, and to boycott them is very wrong.

GObamaGO

(665 posts)
39. Yes, I found myself scratching my head at all of that.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 03:58 AM
Aug 2012

What part of "corporate profits are used to fund groups that promote discrimination against GLBTs" do people not get?

obamanut2012

(26,049 posts)
42. This is against Federal and State law
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:40 AM
Aug 2012

LGBT employees have zero Federal protection, but women do, and marriage status, too.

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