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5 Reasons To Vote For Obama...In Pictures! (Original Post) ProSense Jul 2012 OP
K&R BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #1
+1000 SunSeeker Jul 2012 #14
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2012 #2
Love the picture of Obama shaking the man's hand. Reminds me of my Dad. freshwest Jul 2012 #3
knr! Coexist Jul 2012 #4
k&r.. spanone Jul 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #6
Actual #6 ProSense Jul 2012 #8
Those reasons, plus the GOP is whacked. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #7
GOP is whacked abelenkpe Jul 2012 #15
K&R HopeHoops Jul 2012 #9
Use of veto power? Are you KIDDING? woo me with science Jul 2012 #10
He ProSense Jul 2012 #11
And a veto of the NDAA would have resulted in an APPOINTED office in control of patrice Jul 2012 #13
Ack abelenkpe Jul 2012 #16
NDAAs are military funding I'm not sure, but I don't think there was ever one that wasn't Veto Proof patrice Jul 2012 #22
K&R patrice Jul 2012 #12
Those are five good reasons indeed. chknltl Jul 2012 #17
not really in shambles rockingirl Jul 2012 #18
Luckily ProSense Jul 2012 #19
Question, ProSense Jul 2012 #20
yeah but what about yours? rockingirl Aug 2012 #25
The rich white man club has the money, but not the voter turnout rocktivity Jul 2012 #21
K&R! This would make a great campaign commercial! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2012 #23
I'd like to see a follow-up to the Recovery Act BrendaBrick Jul 2012 #24
Supreme Court, number one for me. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #26

Response to ProSense (Original post)

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
11. He
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jul 2012

vetoed the foreclosure bill. That was a huge win.

Still, would you rather Romney gain the veto power?



patrice

(47,992 posts)
13. And a veto of the NDAA would have resulted in an APPOINTED office in control of
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:36 PM
Jul 2012

Indefinite Detention (that was made legal in the Authorization to Use Military Force passed BY CONGRESS in 2002), without a specific exclusion written for American citizens, and without a signing statement directing the DOJ on the Constitutional grounds upon which to proceed if Indefinite Detention is ever enacted against American citizens.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
22. NDAAs are military funding I'm not sure, but I don't think there was ever one that wasn't Veto Proof
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jul 2012

If Obama had vetoed, the result would have been much worse than what we ended up with.

John McCain and Carl I-never-met-bank-deregulation-I-didn't-love Levin wrote the original Indefinite Detention under the auspices of the Secretary of Defense language into NDAA 2012.

Obama could have done the politically flashy theatrical thing with a Veto and the Veto would have been over-ridden with that shit-for-language in the bill. And Obama could have benefited politically and then say "It's not my fault. I tried to stop it."

He took the harder political path. The one that cost him an arm and a leg with the Occupy, btw. He had Sen. Boxer get the Sec Def language amended into putting the power of indefinite detention in the Presidency, to use or NOT TO USE as a President, an ELECTIVE office, sees fit. And he had a new amendment for the words specifically excluding American Citizens inserted into the bill.

But the problem is that the NDAA also contains other language which says that the NDAA does not change any preceding legislation means that the original authorization for Indefinite Detention (that many of us here at DU have known about since 2002), written into the Authorization to Use Military Force that Congress passed for Bush, is not changed by even the exclusion for American citizens written into this NDAA. Hence, the President's signing statement that orients the DOJ Constitutionally should Indefinite Detention of American citizens ever occur.

rockingirl

(39 posts)
18. not really in shambles
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:23 PM
Jul 2012

mitt the twit is not really in shambles. don't fool yourself! The rich white man club is still behind him and every wannabe member of that club is still there too. they don't care about this stuff, really. they're too busy with red herring and straw man crappola regarding everyone else not yet committed. revel in it if u must but it is insignificant in their minds. and the worst is that most other uncommitted people don't either care or aren't interested in any of this. they want dumbed down television or hand-fed news stories from whatever source they favor no matter what. they are not going to listen to reason, even if it slaps them right upside the face. and when or if it ever does, and they might finally listen, it will be too late. so you should try to influence these people in some sort of way that might make a difference, rather than just bitching about it here amidst just a friendly audience, duh!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
19. Luckily
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jul 2012

"mitt the twit is not really in shambles. don't fool yourself! The rich white man club is still behind him and every wannabe member of that club is still there too."

...I'm not in that category. So, yes, Mitt is in Shambles. Sometimes "The rich white man club" doesn't get what it wants. Ask John McCain and his sidekick.



rockingirl

(39 posts)
25. yeah but what about yours?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:55 PM
Aug 2012

of course i did, thank you so much.

perhaps you just don't like the content of my response?

wtf, maybe you just didn't understand or what?

rocktivity

(44,571 posts)
21. The rich white man club has the money, but not the voter turnout
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:51 PM
Jul 2012

which is why they invented a voter fraud "problem" and are trying to "solve" it with suppression laws.

And I don't see the majority of "uncommitted" voters not caring about not seeing Mitt's tax returns -- at least, not to the point that they WOULDN'T vote for a black guy.


rocktivity

BrendaBrick

(1,296 posts)
24. I'd like to see a follow-up to the Recovery Act
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jul 2012

on which projects actually panned out. Here's a link dated September, 2010 outlining 100 projects:

http://www.phcga.com/100-Recovery-Act-Projects-Changing-America-Report.pdf

I can personally vouch for one of them making a considerable difference in my community! I was wondering, anyone else positively impacted by any of these projects?

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