Thank you Dr Rachel Maddow

[syringis]

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:42 PM - Edit history (2)

We don't have MSNBC in Belgium, but I often watch you on Youtube. I've never been deceived.

If I were to personify journalism excellency, your name would come first.



NB :thank you all. I learned how to use appropriately “Miss”, “Mrs” and “Ms”. I have initially (mis)used “Mrs” to show respect to Rachel Maddow.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Yeah, what she said!

I keep forgetting that Ms Maddow married her partner.

Rachel is definitely the kind of journalist our country needs right now.

[LittleGirl]

58. I can't find any reference to Rachel

getting married? Is she? She's been with her partner since '99 but I don't think they are married. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Wounded Bear]

65. You may be right...

I thought I remembered Rachel announcing something, but I don't see any when/where details.

No big deal, though. I generally don't follow the personal lives of celebs much.

[LittleGirl]

75. same here. I try not to follow celebrities too. eom

[SonofDonald]

76. All the best women are taken, dang it. n/t

Truth.

[LittleGirl]

80. LOL eom

[triron]

2. kick

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Very rare for someone to simultaneously be a super patriot and a super journalist.

[lunatica]

74. Well Rachel started her own kind of genre within journalism

Her style is unique as far as I can tell. She connects the dots in a method which is more like a History professor would do although even then she does it in a unique way. She sticks to facts, relies heavily on the process of history, presenting it as a developing narrative rather than as snapshots of events. She tells a story with a beginning, middle and open ended ending.

She doesn’t present herself as an objective journalist weighing both or multiple sides of the news, but does present herself as telling facts.

I don’t think we’ve seen anything like it before.

[Eliot Rosewater]

77. Well done with this description. Some find her method of taking 12 minutes to

get to the point to be frustrating but those 12 minutes are the important part, not the so called punch line.

[lunatica]

79. I think most people are still expecting to hear what happens rather

Than why and how it happens.

For me she fulfills my desire to see the connected dots so it can all be put into perspective with what I already know. History is a constantly developing narrative of real life. Some things fade into the background and are forgotten, but many times something comes along to bring the background back into focus.

Perhaps most people would understand the importance of those 12 minutes if they understood that it’s what she does. That she’s showing us the how and the why these things happen.

[Dennis Donovan]

4. I've been BEYOND impressed with her since Unfiltered on Air America Radio

She is a SUPER-PATRIOT!

[Elwood P Dowd]

5. Fox News offered her big bucks

to leave MSNBC and do nothing. Roger Ailes wanted her off the air.

[Mr. Ected]

12. Interesting. An attempt at "catch and kill".

Doesn't work with true patriots.

[WinstonSmith4740]

52. Would have loved to have been a fly on THAT wall!

Just picturing Roger Ailes turning red and sputtering when he figured out that real patriots can't be bought gives me the warm fuzzy's. He must have instinctively known that she could bring down his lousy lie machine.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

66. Yep, me too.

What you said!

[spooky3]

6. You're so right, syringis! And amazingly, Maddow has a PhD in poli sci rather than journalism.

She is so smart and so skillful she can handle anything!

(I really like Ari Melber and Lawrence O'Donnell as well. And just about everyone else at MSNBC (except the right wingers)).

[syringis]

16. Hi Spooky

Waow ! Une tête bien faite et bien pleine ! ( Well-formed and well-filled mind)

I will look for Ari Melber and Lawrence O'Donnell.

[spooky3]

34. Thank you for a phrase that I need to memorize for future use!

[OnDoutside]

7. Hey syringis

go into www.tunein.com and you can listen to her show as a podcast. It's usually on tunein by 7am each day.

[syringis]

11. Hi OnDoutside

Thank you very much, it didn't fall on deaf ears.

[OnDoutside]

18. Great, and don't forget

the android mobdro app for live msnbc on your android phone/tablet if you have them.

Also, you can put a build on Kodi where you can also access msnbc, maybe even recordings of Rachel's program (I'd need to check that). In any case if you need help, pm me.

[Aristus]

8. Stephen King and I both have a bit of a crush on her.

Smart, liberal, and lovely. What's not to adore?

[blueinredohio]

61. That makes three of us

[SonofDonald]

84. Four, she is crush worthy, at least for those of us

Who don't have "issues" already programmed via stupidity.

I'd be proud to walk down the street with her as her arm candy.

I'd be honored.

[GTurck]

78. Au contraire....

Maddow has stated that she is more of an Eisenhower Republican. That faction no longer exists having been run out of the party by the right-wingers.

[Aristus]

82. An Eisenhower Republican is a lot more liberal than a lot of Democrats these days.

[SunSeeker]

9. Indeed. nt

[FakeNoose]

10. If Rachel doesn't receive a Pulitzer Prize ...

... then the contest is rigged.

Just sayin'

[sandensea]

14. I suspect it is, at least to some degree.

I mean, she should have YEARS ago.

[sandensea]

13. Her show is an education in itself.

Thanks, Prof!

[calimary]

32. I always feel watching her show is like auditing a master class.

She connects dots and provides rich context to big stories - better than anyone else in the business. I always appreciate the way she backs into a lead.

[Cha]

15. Mahalo for Rachel, syringis..

Rachel Maddow isn't a "Mrs" though.. she's not married.

[syringis]

19. Hi Cha

I should have written "Miss".

Here, we do not anymore use "Miss" in formal language. The word is only used for very young women.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

20. Actually, you should have written Ms.

because that's the normal form of address of a woman in this country. Miss is likewise mostly used for very young women. But Mrs is not extended as a courtesy title to unmarried women. And even if Ms. Maddow marries her partner, she will likely not change her name and remain Ms. Maddow.

[syringis]

21. Hi PoindexterOglethorpe

Thank you, I've learned something today.

I'll remember it. I'll edit my OP too.

So "Mrs" is used when a woman is married and bears her husband's name ?

[spooky3]

30. Hi, syringis, pardon me for butting in, but here are my two cents

the term "Ms." is preferred and widely used here, primarily because, just as the term "Mr." is used regardless of marital status, "Ms." works regardless. And, to many people, it seems less sexist than Miss/Mrs., because it doesn't treat women different from men or seem to define women by their attachment/no attachment to (usually) a man. However, if a woman tells someone that she prefers a different form of address, such as Mrs. Husband's Name, then the polite thing here is to do as she asks.

[erronis]

31. I think (after 60+++ years and several marriages/relationships) that Mrs. is pretty archaic

Of course there are those in France that want to be addressed as Madame (Mme) but we're slowly losing the gender-specific honorifics that try to show sex/age/marriagiability all in 2-3 letters.

Best to just call them by their names - given or professional.

Or as Christine Lavin put it: Never Call Your Sweetheart By His Name:
http://www.christinelavin.com/index.php?page=songs&category=Future_Fossils&display=301

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

45. Yes, that's it.

For a very long time married women were known as Mrs his first name his last name, as in Mrs John Smith. Up into the 1970's it occurred almost all the time, and you'd have no clue what Mrs Smith's given name was. After a while that changed and the same woman would be known as Mrs Jane Smith.

Starting in the 1970s the marital status neutral address of Ms came into usage.

I am one woman who never did change my last name when I was married (I'm sure you can guess Poindexter Oglethorpe is not my real name) and I honestly find it very strange that so many women continue to change their surnames upon marriage.

[syringis]

47. Thank you :-)

A married woman keep her name here. It is mandatory since the 70s, if I'm not wrong. The husband's name is now used only informally.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

51. I like that a lot.

I find myself trying to convince young women here that not changing their name is vastly easier than changing, especially as these days you get a lot of grief if every single piece of official or semi-official paperwork doesn't all have the same name on it.

[Ilsa]

71. In some ways, it is just much easier to use one surname. If you have children together

living in the US, especially if you have kids in school, it is less confusing. And kids in US usually have their father's last name on their birth certificate, so the mom/wife would be the person without the same last name. Culture in the US has made it easier to propagate this tradition.

I think it is interesting that they only choose his name and not hers. Why not pick a new surname? Women can do that when they divorce in Texas.

[Liberalagogo]

49. "Husband" doesn't apply either

as Rachel is gay.

[Lisa0825]

24. I remember when I was a kid, that asking to be called "Ms" was akin to burning your bra!

So glad people got over it. As a single/divorced person, I hate it when people assume I am married.

No offense to the OP - cultural/language differences are a different matter. I only get annoyed with those who should know better.

[Cha]

28. Actually I think "Ms" would

be the more correct wording here.

Or just Rachel Maddow.. but Mrs means she has a husband or had a husband.. and she has a girlfriend, Susan Mikula, for about 19 years.

Happy lesbian couple, Susan Mikula and Rachel Maddow are together since 1999 but are still not in hurry to get married!!

https://marriedbiography.com/happy-lesbian-couple-susan-mikula-rachel-maddow-together-since-1999-still-not-hurry-get-married/



ETA.. I just got corrected.. Rachel is a Dr.. so Dr Rachel Maddow would be the best way to addess her.

[greymattermom]

29. She's Dr. Madddow

actually

[Cha]

33. Oh that's right! Thank for the

correction, greymattermom.

[malaise]

62. Yes and No

Non-medicals tend to write Rachel Maddow, PhD

[Alpeduez21]

73. No, Dr. is correct.

My wife and I should be addressed as Mr. and Dr. or, more properly, Dr. and Mr.

[oberliner]

17. What about when she teased having Trump's tax returns?

That was a low-light.

[poboy2]

23. Really? I suppose one could say 'let it go', but I don't think you want to.

It was semi-hyped for about a half a day. But maybe that has done permanent damage to your psyche.

I feel your pain and anguish. They say time heals all wounds. Not long enough for you apparently.
I can only hope you can forgive this mortal transgression in years to come.

[oberliner]

25. I watch her every night and always look forward to her show

In fact, I am always really sad when she isn't on and there is a substitute.

No one is better at what she does than she is.

That's why I was so disappointed with the tax return tease - and I still feel that was a low-light for her.

[Roy Rolling]

35. It Was Theater

She thought it would be good journalism, I'm sure she learned it wasn't. I don't like 100% of what I, myself, do much less liking 100% of another person's actions.

So I give Rachel the benefit of the doubt, her judgement on what to broadcast is not subject to my approval. I watch almost every show, too, and never think of the tax show. Mainly because the "controversy" was hyped by the right-wing, and THAT is what I ignore automatically.

[Cha]

37. I know, right.. there always

has to be someone, who gets on a thread celebrating a person who has done so much good but isn't perfect.. with "Whataboutism".

Bad Rachel! lol

[tavernier]

69. Someone.

Smooth, Cha.

[Cha]

70. Not always the

same.. I was thinking of another thread recently, too.

tavernier

[tavernier]

72. Great minds, lol!

[longship]

22. Rachel (and Lawrence) is available on podcast.

I grab the audio-only version every night. It's usually available some time after 11PM ET, one hour after her show closes. Same with Lawrence O'Donnell's Last Word, about one hour after he finishes.

Just point a podcast aggregator towards Rachel Maddow and you'll find her program. There might even be a video version, too. The same with Lawrence's show.

I get to listen to every one of her programs that way.

My best to you.

[flygal]

26. I listen to her podcast in the morning walking my dog.

[oberliner]

27. Why does someone from Belgium spend time on a website devoted to US politics?

Just curious to know what drew you to DU.

[erronis]

39. I would turn your question on its head - why are the "americans" (US) so uninterested

In what's happening in the rest of the world?

I think it is very natural to wonder what's happening in what used to be one of the leading countries of the world. Especially since the spill-over effects are so powerful to the rest of the world.

Looking at a map of Europe (Western and Eastern) it is easy to see that countries are quite small compared to the US. And that there is a lot of commingled history and problems and solutions.

I wish that the USofA would consider itself more of that community than a monolithic block of "americans" that can deal with everything on their own - or at least on their own terms.

[oberliner]

54. How many Americans can name the prime minister of Belgium?

I'm guessing around zero.

[erronis]

63. Agree. I'm a zero too. Back to class!

[irisblue]

44. Maybe b/c the US is a BFD?

enjoy & celebrate the fact that a well educated & alert European woman wants to hang out with us.

[Cha]

48. Yeah, what you said, Irisblue

[oberliner]

55. All the more embarrassing

Considering what is going on here at the moment politically.

[irisblue]

56. Yep. We stand shamed before history & time by trump.

[oberliner]

57. Much like during the Bush years

[DFW]

67. What happens in the USA often directly affects other countries

Way more than they affect us, as a matter of fact.

Belgium has a population of just over 11 million. NATO HQ is there and so is that of the EU. Many thousands of Americans are stationed there, both military and civilian. America brings disproportionate billions into the Belgian economy. What goes on in the USA politically is (or should) be of major interest to most Belgians.

On the other hand, if we decide that our cravings for waffles and chocolate need to be satisfied elsewhere, it can be arranged. Theiplomat Belgians have a good reason to care.

As for us, an Indian diplomat once said that the office of President of the United States is FAR too important to be left to the voters of the United States.

[FreepFryer]

36. Technically, I believe Dr. Rachel Maddow is most appropriate given her doctorate (n/t)

[Cha]

40. You're right.. I was thinking Ms but

reminded upthread that Rachel Maddow is a doctor!

snip//

Maddow received a bachelor’s degree in public policy from Stanford University. She earned her doctorate in political science at Oxford University, which she attended on a Rhodes Scholarship. She lives in New York City and Massachusetts with her partner, artist Susan Mikula.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/rachel-maddow-biography

[maddiemom]

43. Rhodes scholar; Oxford doctorate.

Tell us ,Sean Hannity...where,again, did you get your bachelors" degree?

[FreepFryer]

50. Cheers! A doctorate is obviously a huge challenge for anyone...

...even putting aside (if only) the huge and deepening gender disparities in academia.

[Cha]

64. Cheers to that, FreepFryer!

[cp]

38. Pulitzer from me

Rachel Maddow is a National Living Treasure.

[Gothmog]

41. Yeah for Rachel

[maddiemom]

42. Wonderful compliment to her! Was just about to mention that it's properly Dr. Maddow

[Cha]

46. Thank you, syringis!

[Honeycombe8]

53. I second that emotion! Thank Goodness for Rachel! She 'splains it like I'm a 4 yr old. nt

[mahina]

59. I never find clean links to her show on youtube but she podcasts video and audio versions.

Also available on msnbc.com

I agree completely with your support of her though.

[FailureToCommunicate]

60. Agreed! Big fan of Rachel Maddow, DPhil

http://www.msnbc.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/rachel-maddow-biography

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[helpisontheway]

68. Missed Rachel last night. Does not look like there will be a repeat

Syria..Syria..Syria..

[Faux pas]

81. Kickin' with gusto!

[mrmpa]

83. My boyfriend has never been political..........

he is a widow and she was a staunch republican and I think he never gave it much thought as to who was running for what seat, etc.

I started putting on Rachel's show every night. He is in love with her, because as he said "she connects the dots, and makes it easy to understand what's going on."