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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:58 AM Jul 2012

What will happen if Repubs hold the House and take the Senate and WH in Nov?

The radical right is in full control of the republican party in Congress. They'd get to work fast and they'd push Mushy Mittens right down their agenda track.

Say goodbye to the social safety net.

Say hello greater xian involvement in gov't.

Say goodbye to unions.

Say hello to those jobs at cut rate wages.

Say goodbye to increased NIH research.

Say hello to laxer regulations across the spectrum.

Say goodbye to public schools.

Say hello to religious based charter schools.

Say goodbye to the EPA.

Say hello to lots more environmental disasters.

Say goodbye to the middle class.

Say hello to new big tax breaks for the wealthy.

Can they do it all? Probably not, but they can do a lot of it.



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What will happen if Repubs hold the House and take the Senate and WH in Nov? (Original Post) cali Jul 2012 OP
After one year? RobertEarl Jul 2012 #1
Riots? In America? Surest thou jest. Zalatix Jul 2012 #8
The main problem lies with how heavily armed the police are. They are supposed to be the police not ZM90 Jul 2012 #9
If there are riots after Romney is elected, the militarized police will only be PART of the problem. Zalatix Jul 2012 #11
Then that is why it is so critical that Romney must NOT win. ZM90 Jul 2012 #12
Riots in the streets would be useless. Doctor_J Jul 2012 #18
WW3 not at all likely these days even with nutty Romney in office...... AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #20
I'm not sure but that they would do all of that madokie Jul 2012 #2
Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. longship Jul 2012 #3
i really wonder. veganlush Jul 2012 #4
the republican party is far more to the right now cali Jul 2012 #5
good point veganlush Jul 2012 #6
Not interested in speculating. . . Journeyman Jul 2012 #7
I am reminded of this quote. ZM90 Jul 2012 #10
I will look for land in nova scotia adigal Jul 2012 #13
It would be frucking ugly, but the most likely scenario is Cosmocat Jul 2012 #14
I think that scenario is the most likely and then 2 years later people will get sick of it and then ZM90 Jul 2012 #15
I believe an impeachment would actually fail quite miserably, too. AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #21
It will be our worse nightmare. libtodeath Jul 2012 #16
a depression rivaling the 30`s...maybe worse. madrchsod Jul 2012 #17
If the Republicans hold the House and take the Senate then the President has to earn his keep. 1-Old-Man Jul 2012 #19
The same thing that happened when Obama kctim Jul 2012 #22
One thing I wonder is whether the Senate Democrats would be willing and able to be obstructionists Jim Lane Jul 2012 #23
As long as they don't have 60 Senate seats, the Dems can filibuster most of this. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #24
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. After one year?
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:00 AM
Jul 2012

Riots in the streets.

And if not, it will only be because WW3 has broken out. So either way, it will be war.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
8. Riots? In America? Surest thou jest.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 06:00 AM
Jul 2012

The police gangs will put down a major riot within days. Have you seen what these thugs are armed with, lately?

And then there's the drones... you will wish for the days of drone strikes under Obama's administration, compared to the coast to coast domestic done strikes that Romney will order against rioters and protest organizers.

Even if my cynical opinion of the resilient nature of protests in America is wrong, under Romney the starch will be pounded out within a few days. I wouldn't be surprised if he enabled the Tea Partiers to join in on the fun, which brings up the other issue:

Riots against Republican safety net cuts, in America, will be put down by the populace itself.

ZM90

(706 posts)
9. The main problem lies with how heavily armed the police are. They are supposed to be the police not
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 06:04 AM
Jul 2012

the military.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
11. If there are riots after Romney is elected, the militarized police will only be PART of the problem.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 06:35 AM
Jul 2012

Protesters will most certainly also be physically attacked, even killed, by Right Wing citizens.

And I also don't know too many National Guard people who like liberals, either. I wouldn't look to them for help, ESPECIALLY if Romney tells them to put down the protesters.

ZM90

(706 posts)
12. Then that is why it is so critical that Romney must NOT win.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 06:53 AM
Jul 2012

I myself have been very critical of Obama in the past regarding things like ACTA and TPP but I sure as hell like Obama a lot more than I do Romney and not only that unlike Romney Obama isn't going to destroy America.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
18. Riots in the streets would be useless.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jul 2012

lots of, er, fireworks at Hate Radio studios, OTOH, would be very effective. And I am not talking about walking in circles holding cardboard signs.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
20. WW3 not at all likely these days even with nutty Romney in office......
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:35 PM
Jul 2012

Even so, we would be in trouble; his constant failures would at least set back U.S. policy progress by a couple of decades.....and if we get entangled in Iran, you can kiss our relative security good-bye.......

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. I'm not sure but that they would do all of that
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:02 AM
Jul 2012

the pukies are crazier than a bunch of shit house mouses and about as smart as my case tractor

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:06 AM
Jul 2012
In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.

That's it.

veganlush

(2,049 posts)
4. i really wonder.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:17 AM
Jul 2012

Look at the Bush years, they had all branches, including the SC, for six years and did little of that. Obama comes along and it's all abortion all the time

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. the republican party is far more to the right now
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:25 AM
Jul 2012

than it was during the bush years. Does that seem unbelievable? Read the Lizza article on Paul Ryan that I posted. It explains it quite well.

veganlush

(2,049 posts)
6. good point
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:39 AM
Jul 2012

They are much further right, in such a short time. i'll find your lizza piece thank you

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
7. Not interested in speculating. . .
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:40 AM
Jul 2012

Think I'll take my counsel here from Mark Twain:

"I'm an old man," he said in his waning years, "I am an old man and have known many troubles, most of which never happened."

ZM90

(706 posts)
10. I am reminded of this quote.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 06:14 AM
Jul 2012

"And if you fall the death of the Republic will be such a quiet thing, a whisper that shall herald in the darkness to come." -Kriea, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. Now obviously she is talking about the Republic in Star Wars and by "you" referring to the Jedi exile but in our situation "you" could refer to President Obama and the Republic to the United States of America.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
14. It would be frucking ugly, but the most likely scenario is
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:42 AM
Jul 2012

BO, an R house and an R senate, and that is going to be absolutely SURREAL.

Cause, even if BO wins, the Rs getting that two or three seat swing in the senate will be the rationale by which the Rs, and the "liberal media" say that he is a damaged president, and that he must simply sign off on whatever BS the Rs put on his desk, while they spend the next four years going Clinton on him trying to impeach him. And, he of course, will be labeled a wild eyed partisan who is extremely polarizing.

ZM90

(706 posts)
15. I think that scenario is the most likely and then 2 years later people will get sick of it and then
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:49 AM
Jul 2012

there will probably be a Dem house and Senate again assuming the Republicans haven't impeached Obama on some trumped up charges.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
21. I believe an impeachment would actually fail quite miserably, too.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:43 PM
Jul 2012

At least in Clinton's case, he DID have sexual relations with that woman, aka Monica Lewinsky(though I strongly believe that didn't warrant impeachment). Obama? They've got absolutely nothing incriminating on him.....because he's done nothing wrong.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
19. If the Republicans hold the House and take the Senate then the President has to earn his keep.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jul 2012

And sit there for four continuous years and hit every dam bill that comes to his desk with the VETO stamp.

 

kctim

(3,575 posts)
22. The same thing that happened when Obama
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:50 PM
Jul 2012

was elected President: Not a whole lot.

None of the right-wing claims of "socialism," "marxism," gun grabbing, high taxes etc... have materialized under President Obama and none of the left-wing claims will either.

Other than a minor reg change here and there, the main worry will be if one of the Supremes is replaced.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
23. One thing I wonder is whether the Senate Democrats would be willing and able to be obstructionists
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:19 PM
Jul 2012

Especially if the Republicans hold the House, take the Senate, and elect Romney, there would be an opportunity for 41 or more Democrats to turn the Republicans' filibuster madness back on them. Let's remember all the Democratic bills that passed the House (in the previous Congress) and had a majority in the Senate, but couldn't advance.

Of course, "willing" and "able" are both big ifs. Would the Democratic leadership be willing to take the highly confrontational and obstructionist course that the Republican minority has done, and would there be few enough defections from conservaDems so that the filibusterers had the 41 votes? If they did that, would the Republican majority be able to go nuclear and hypocritically abolish the filibuster, after their own extensive use of it?

I'm not very optimistic on either of these points.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
24. As long as they don't have 60 Senate seats, the Dems can filibuster most of this.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jul 2012

Personally, I am not 100% convinced that a bill abolishing Trade Unions, to take one of your examples, would ever actually be drafted, but if it was, I'm pretty sure the Dems would filibuster it.

That's why I haven't been joining in with those DUers who want to get rid of the filibuster.

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