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syringis

(5,101 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:28 AM Apr 2018

Headlines from Europe

All headlines are +/- saying the same :

James Comey : Trump is morally unfit as President

Donald Trump, an inveterate liar with "mafia" behavior according to the former head of the FBI

James Comey denounces Donald Trump, more "Godfather" than President

Comey saw Clinton as president, Trump rose up against this "lunatic"

James Comey: "I could never have imagined comparing a US president to a mafia leader"

Will actress X Stormy Daniels trip Donald Trump?

In New York City, porn actress Stormy Daniels causes a riot in court

American Justice looks at Trump's lawyer "cases"

The "fixer" Michael Cohen investigated : a great concern for Trump

Trump's lawyer in court, a Fox News star embarrassed

Donald Trump's lawyer, high-risk hearing facing Stormy Daniels

US strikes in Syria reveal Donald Trump's contradictions

Remake of "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", in the United States


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Headlines from Europe (Original Post) syringis Apr 2018 OP
The World is laughing at us. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #1
Hi Blue_true syringis Apr 2018 #2
At least not the ones that voted for Hillary bigbrother05 Apr 2018 #3
Hi Bigbrother05 syringis Apr 2018 #4
Marine Le Pen was a disaster leftieNanner Apr 2018 #5
And everyone worries that after the US implodes, the rest of the world is next erronis Apr 2018 #6

syringis

(5,101 posts)
2. Hi Blue_true
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:34 PM
Apr 2018

Many of us feel deeply sorry. We are witnessing this mess, speechlessly.


America deserves so much better than this clown !

I hope it will comfort you a little, we distinguish very well between you and Trump. He is the laughingstock, not his fellow citizens.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
3. At least not the ones that voted for Hillary
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:44 PM
Apr 2018

If we had a Parliament, we might not have this situation. The extremes could vote in their own loonies and then a unity coalition could govern from a practical middle ground.

I fear that the open racism of the Trump admin has emboldened the European Right parties.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
4. Hi Bigbrother05
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:25 PM
Apr 2018

Your country is a bit different : it might be hard to implement a representative parliament.

One of the problems is the way the president is elected.

It is not so much the Electoral College the problem, but the power given to the president.

Many countries as a president who hasn't been elected directly (Germany, Italy, ...). In this case, the position is almost only honorific, the president has no power to make significant changes or make decisions that will weight on the citizens.

If you choose to give a real power to a leader, then, the one elected must reflect the citizens will. In the US, it is a combination of a president who does not always reflect the will of the vast majority, and a real power, in my opinion too much power.
There is probably something to work on there.

Right wingers tried to take advantage of Trump's election, but they failed. In France, Marine Le pen was literally wiped !

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
5. Marine Le Pen was a disaster
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:13 PM
Apr 2018

I am so glad that she lost to Macron.

Thanks for sending us the headlines. I'm glad you don't blame all of America for the lunatic in the White House.

We are traveling to Europe next month and I have to say that for the first time in my life, I have a little bit of trepidation about admitting that I am an American. Sad state of affairs.

I always make an effort to be as polite as possible when traveling overseas. Maybe I can erase the effects of one ugly American.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
6. And everyone worries that after the US implodes, the rest of the world is next
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:16 PM
Apr 2018

Not to say that the US is a model, now or ever. But if the forces that are taking it down succeed, the rest of the democracies are in peril.

We (democracies) are so much bigger and more powerful than the dark forces but we are also independent and have different perspectives. A monolithic evil, especially in today's information world, can fracture and sow artificial dissension.

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