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Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:18 AM

CNN host takes on MSNBCs Morning Joe

Watching New Day show on CNN approx 6:30 am Eastern today.
They were talking about Hannity ties to the White House and the criticism of Hannity.
Then, host Chris Cuomo says why is nobody talking about MSNBC’s show Morning Joes relationship with Trump.
He said that show is our direct competitor in this time slot and he believes that the way that Joe and Mika pumped up Trump during the campaign season giving Trump daily access to their show hurt CNN’s ratings because Trump was always on MSNBC and not CNN.
Cuomo further said why has there been no examination of Joe and Mika’s ties to Trump during the campaign, and or how they turned against Trump after he became President.

Little bit of a wow moment for Cuomo to call out a direct competitor on live tv like that.
Hopefully, somebody here can find the clip from this morning on CNN and post it.
Joe and Mika not on their show this morning, so no response from them on MSNBC as yet.

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Reply CNN host takes on MSNBCs Morning Joe (Original post)
Funtatlaguy Apr 2018 OP
RDANGELO Apr 2018 #1
Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #2
notdarkyet Apr 2018 #20
hlthe2b Apr 2018 #3
OnDoutside Apr 2018 #4
Fullduplexxx Apr 2018 #5
yallerdawg Apr 2018 #42
MarianJack Apr 2018 #6
NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #18
ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #25
Cassidy Apr 2018 #34
patricia92243 Apr 2018 #7
Earth Bound Misfit Apr 2018 #22
thbobby Apr 2018 #8
Funtatlaguy Apr 2018 #11
Chemisse Apr 2018 #23
SayItLoud Apr 2018 #9
Vinca Apr 2018 #10
Funtatlaguy Apr 2018 #12
rtracey Apr 2018 #13
Resist160 Apr 2018 #14
CTyankee Apr 2018 #15
late Apr 2018 #16
milestogo Apr 2018 #17
TomVilmer Apr 2018 #19
OnDoutside Apr 2018 #27
Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #21
Cassidy Apr 2018 #33
Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #40
oberliner Apr 2018 #37
Chemisse Apr 2018 #24
oberliner Apr 2018 #38
onlyadream Apr 2018 #26
SHRED Apr 2018 #28
oberliner Apr 2018 #39
world wide wally Apr 2018 #29
Justice Apr 2018 #30
Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #31
BSdetect Apr 2018 #32
DylanUSC Apr 2018 #35
oberliner Apr 2018 #36
JI7 Apr 2018 #41

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:24 AM

1. I guarantee Joe will not let this go without a reply.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:26 AM

2. I believe that

They are all complicit in not only the election of The “Esteemed” Mr Trump but in failing to provide anymore than sensational and salacious wall to wall crap to the public. I would suggest simply turning them all off.

Reruns of Old westerns are more informative from what I have discovered.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:29 AM

20. Ive been watching old westerns.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:31 AM

3. well, it is all true. The only fact any of us are watching Morning Joe at all now...

is because of the 180 degree turn and the fact they have good guests. But, certainly they've not been held to account for their overt pumping up of Trump during the election.

Sometimes the truth hurts and no doubt Joe won't take this well. So, I guess popcorn time.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:36 AM

4. Can't wait to see that ! Well said, Cuomo, it's a more than fair question. They could just as

easily flip back to Trump if it suited them.

I watch MJ a lot, and you can see that even though he is supposed to be "independent" now, he is still pulling hard for the Republicans. At least Halperin got the bullet, and the show is all the better for that, especially with Heilemann being pretty much his replacement.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:40 AM

5. Wasnt it cnn that often had a camera pointed to an emty podium with a caption

Trump to speak soon...?

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:27 AM

42. Cuomo pissed them off so bad...

they wouldn't even send campaign/administrative spokespersons to Chris Cuomo's show!

There's no doubt "AM Joe" pumped up the legitimacy of that unqualified, incoherent, incomprehensible pig of a sub-human now temporarily occupying our White House, but Cuomo (son of Mario, brother of Andrew) always remained fairly skeptical.

I can still watch Cuomo. I cannot watch - and do not watch - "AM Joe."

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:46 AM

6. The entire news media fawned CEASELESSLY over Trump.

CNN was just as complicit as anyone. Donald Trump got a free pass, Hillary Clinton's coverage was all emails all the time.

Have no doubt it'll be the same thing in 2020 too!

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:28 AM

18. Agreed - CNN gave Trump a ton of airtime

and, they didn't really "turn" on Trump until he had that occasion where he announced a big press conference and then showed up to only promote the new Trump DC Hotel. By that time, it was only a few months before the election and too late to do much good.

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:44 AM

25. The Infamous Empty Podium Event Happened. . .

. . .while i was watching CNN. Cut off HRC's economic policy proposal speech to show an empty podium for 12 to 15 minutes. That was CNN, so Cuomo might want to do a little research about his own glass house.

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:01 AM

34. Much of the media was complicit, but not all.

On cable, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow of MSNBC were not complicit.

It would be very helpful for thorough analyses to be done on specific programs and journalists. Then we could keep the good and honest and avoid the sycophantic who are only there for the ratings.

When I see a clip of Joe and Mika saying how awful Trump is, I sometimes send a postcard to the show and ask when they will apologize for helping to elect him.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:47 AM

7. Cumo seemed mainly interested in CNN's ratings. That means if Trump had turned to CNN

and their rating were higher there would be no problem.

CNN was as much responsible for the Buffoon as any of them.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:36 AM

22. This.

They're all complicit AF

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:48 AM

8. I agree with previous posts

Joe and Mika enabled trump: softball interviews, excessive airtime, lavish praise. I lost a lot of respect of MSNBC for the Morning Joe fiasco during the trump campaign. CNN also did same. trump gave them higher ratings and profit. If they had actually acted like journalists, trump would not have come on their show and the cash cow would have been gone.
Now Joe and Mika are against trump. Again, good for ratings. They try to rewrite their past enabling of him. To understand Morning Joe, just follow the money. They are trashy pundits and should never be considered professional journalists.

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Response to thbobby (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:53 AM

11. I agree with most of what you said.

But, I would add that it became personal between them and Trump.
He got upset with them and tweeted that he knew a lot about their relationship hinting that it had become romantic before Joe and Mika had wanted to go public with that fact.
Trump then escalated what became an on air feud by calling Mika names and making up a story about a fictional facelift that Trump claimed she had.


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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:40 AM

23. She actually did have the facelift, according to what she discussed on air.

It just wasn't the horror show when she went to a public event that Trump cruelly said it was.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:50 AM

9. Channels that live in glass houses

Jeff Zucker and CNN milked tRUMP for every rating point possible. Now look what America has in the Oral Office.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:52 AM

10. I didn't hear it, but it's about time Joe and Mika were confronted.

There was rarely a day when the orange idiot didn't call into their show and was given as much time as he wanted to tell the world how wonderful he was. This is why the Trump campaign spent so little on advertising. Joe and Mika are definitely on the top ten list of things that caused Trump to be elected.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:58 AM

12. Yep. They were actually friends at one time.

They used to talk about visiting him and Melania at both Trump Tower and Maralago.
Now, they loathe him. And, that’s not just “playing tv”. They really hate him for talking publicly about their private lives.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:08 AM

13. good for Cuomo

 

I have said that before, how hypocritical Mika and Joe are. Blasting Trump no, but kissing his ass during the election...

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:08 AM

14. CNN host takes on Morning Joe

Yes I saw also. I couldn't believe he said that. I remember I had to quit watching MJ because him & Mika were so much up Don the Con's a*s. I couldn't take it anymore, so I just quit watching. Then they have a 180 degree turn around. But they helped put Don the Con in power.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:15 AM

15. I don't know how J and M can successfully distance themselves from Trump...

their on air romance with the guy is out there and too many people, like me, saw it play out practically every weekday.

It might never catch up with them in a serious way, but enough is out there to make plenty of people disgusted.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:18 AM

16. Trump knew how to play the media

He's a "reality" tv star pretending to be a president.

He may not know a thing about being president, but he knows how to get attention, which is what tv is all about.

You do have a point, TV isn't the ethical participant the country needs. It'a all about money, which is part of why guys like Trump and Bush 2 can get elected.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:19 AM

17. Wow. I didn't start watching them until after the election.

I had no idea they were so cozy with Trump.

Joe seems pretty full of himself.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:28 AM

19. Here is the clip


Jump to 33 minutes in.

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Response to TomVilmer (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:47 AM

27. Thanks. No harm for someone to say it, it's true.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:34 AM

21. Here's the thing that still gets me

EVERYONE say Trump calling in regularly during the campaign to multiple shows, some more favored than others.

Almost no other candidate during the primes or GE did the same.

They ALL ceded that space to Trump. Would any show of this nature across the network turn him away?

Yes, they should have held him a lot more accountable and likely many will going forward the next time it happens. Trump was definitely something that was building for awhile but even as he got the nomination most never thought he'd win. He was treated as a sideshow and it got ratings. That's not something that happens twice. He won't be able to get away with it the next campaign season he's directly involved in during 2020.

But really, look at it, nobody else tried to take advantage of that space like he did. You think Morning Joe or Cuomo would turn away Hillary calling in every other day like he did?

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:54 AM

33. If Hillary had called in they would have just asked about her emails every time.

I don't think they would have given any of the other Republicans all the airtime they wanted either. They just weren't entertaining enough for the news programs!

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Response to Cassidy (Reply #33)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:12 AM

40. So instead she just cedes the narrative to them instead of trying to change it

It is, admittedly, a whole lot of "woulda coulda" who knows kind of stuff. They were all playing by the usual rules not realizing that they'd been upended - which is what happened to Hillary before with Obama and the first wave of social media activism during that election.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:10 AM

37. Bernie offered a lot of access and called in to the same shows regularly

 

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:43 AM

24. What's to investigate?

Joe and Mika made their adulation clear as they gushed over Trump during the election season. It was no secret. CNN should have criticized them in real time, but clearly they were ALL angling for the Trump dollars.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:11 AM

38. CNN gushed over Trump also

 

Every time he sneezed, they covered it.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:46 AM

26. I never watched morning joe until early summer 2016 and my take

On the show was that they saw the circus nature and tried to steer the ship away from the clown. I don’t know about before that time, but I was surprised republican Joe said what he did at that time.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:58 AM

28. CNN has zero room to talk

 

Zero

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Response to SHRED (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:11 AM

39. Amen

 

Could not agree more.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:06 AM

29. Reading this thread about how they all gushed over Trump is making me feel sick to my stomach

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:36 AM

30. Cuomo put out for discussion a point that needs airing. Media fawning over Trump


He will have to take his knocks for that but good the topic is out there.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:41 AM

31. Whats the old saying? "If you live in a glass house, you shouldnt go around throwing rocks".

CNN is just as guilty of helping the PGIC get elected as MSNBC.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:46 AM

32. I refuse to watch any of them. They are 99% stupid second rate intellects.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:09 AM

35. Agree with most of the posts here & I do not particularly care for a lot of MSNBC but enjoy some of

 

their shows. I watch Morning Joe but agree as I remember their BS of rubbing up to Trump & all of his calls to their show. That was pretty disgusting but CNN & other media were guilty of giving him plenty of exposure as well.

Remember the CBS President who said Donald Trump may not be good for the country but he is really good for CBS. That is the problem with Corporate Media. The money takes First Priority & favorable spin for corporations & the news comes third.

I keep hoping someday we will have more & stronger Independent Media again. The network evening news is pretty good but you need more detail so, for now, one has to really search & find the various sources they trust to get accurate news.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:10 AM

36. CNN was just as bad if not worse

 

They cut into programming to run what turned out to be an infomercial for Trump branded products.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:22 AM

41. With all the Criticism of Comey and how much it Hurt Hillary

The fact is even that would not have hurt Clinton if the media did not play a huge role in propping up trump. If the media didn't do false equivalencies and other shitty coverage.

Cuomo is only upset at how it hurt cnn ratings. But they did the same shit in providing free coverage without asking questions.

They just let the birther thing pass and act like all is normal and it continues to today. All the bigotry, fucked up tweeting, lies, and other shit is talked about when it happens but then they just move on without demanding answers.

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