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Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:36 PM

Embracing 'the Sort of Bold Thinking We Need,' Sanders to Introduce Plan:

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Embracing 'the Sort of Bold Thinking We Need,' Sanders to Introduce Plan to Guarantee Every American a Job...

With the goal of eliminating "working poverty and involuntary unemployment," driving up wages, and curtailing income inequality, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is reportedly planning to introduce a federal jobs guarantee that would provide decent-paying employment to every American "who wants or needs" it.



To read more:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/04/23/embracing-sort-bold-thinking-we-need-sanders-introduce-plan-guarantee-every-american?

The Democrats need a bold agenda. This is one part of a bold agenda.

Being anti-Trump is intuitive, but there is a need for solutions as well. When FDR rolled out his plans, the GOP opposed everything as unworkable and unrealistic. But the New Deal ushered in an era of remarkable prosperity that only stopped when Reagan started the roll back of the New Deal.

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Reply Embracing 'the Sort of Bold Thinking We Need,' Sanders to Introduce Plan: (Original post)
guillaumeb Apr 2018 OP
Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #1
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #2
Adrahil Apr 2018 #31
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #41
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #62
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #70
vi5 Apr 2018 #74
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #77
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #54
Me. Apr 2018 #3
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #5
Me. Apr 2018 #7
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #9
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #16
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #18
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #32
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #43
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #61
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #69
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #85
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #88
Me. Apr 2018 #20
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #21
peggysue2 Apr 2018 #12
Me. Apr 2018 #19
peggysue2 Apr 2018 #22
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #60
Me. Apr 2018 #68
OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #4
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #6
TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #8
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #11
Me. Apr 2018 #25
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #27
Me. Apr 2018 #30
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #40
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #73
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #14
TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #17
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #33
Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #10
smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #42
jrthin Apr 2018 #82
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #13
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #15
Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #36
guillaumeb Apr 2018 #44
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BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #23
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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:39 PM

1. He should become a Democrat then.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:41 PM

2. Manchin is a Democrat.

My Representative in Illinois, Dan Lipinski, who is an anti-abortion Congressman who opposed the ACA, is also a Democrat.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:44 PM

31. Whats your point?

 

We win by working together. Sometimes that means partnering with folks you don’t agree with on some issues so we achieve other goals.

I have no time for people who will only join the party when they can het something from it.

Sanders doesn’t give a shit about the Democratic party, except as a tool to serve his own ends.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:55 PM

41. That is your view of Sanders and his motivation.

Mine differs.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #41)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:09 PM

62. Mine differs too. The funny thing is, Bernie IS a Democrat for all intents and purposes...

Hell, he votes on the side of Democrats more than the average Democrat does... so, why the hate by some around here? I don't get it at all.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #62)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:14 PM

70. Many reasons perhaps?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:19 PM

74. It's the new logic on here....

 

Bernie votes with us 99% of the time and votes for Democrats as majority leader, and is somehow "against the Democratic party", "anti-Democrate and "not helpful", but the conservadems like Manchin vote with us 75% of the time, and are off-limits from criticism because "we need them".

It boggles the mind.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #74)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:24 PM

77. It does seem that way at times.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:04 PM

54. This is of course impossible at this time, minimum 6 years before you could even think

about introducing it with any chance of passing.

SO much has to be done first, but some folks seem unwilling to do that work.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:42 PM

3. But Will The Plan Actually Work

or is it more pie in the sky

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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:43 PM

5. Will the ACA actually work, or is it Romneycare?

What is not working is the current system.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:46 PM

7. And What Does That Have To Do With BS

and his latest theory...

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Response to Me. (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:49 PM

9. It was a response to your post.

There was no proof that the New Deal would work prior to its implementation.

I have read many times on DU that single payer will not work in the US, but it works better than the US system everywhere else.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:59 PM

16. It won't work because if we tried it and raised taxes enough to pay for it...we would be tossed out

on our asses...start with a public option...lower the age of Medicare.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:11 PM

18. Any increase in taxes would be more than offset by decreases in insurance premiums.

The same objections would be raised by the GOP to lowering the age for Medicare.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:44 PM

32. Most Americans still get insurance through work...same thing that derailed Clinton....the

ACA insured those who didn't have work insurance...and I believe we improve it by regulating pharma and insurance...and offer a public option...reduce age to 55 to qualify for medicare as a start. It wouldn't cost as much to do it gradually...and by taking older people out of exchanges and work insurance, it would lower premiums for everyone.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #32)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:57 PM

43. To your last point,

it would raise them for Medicare.

There is literally no real role for insurance companies in the healthcare field. They profit at our expense.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #43)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:08 PM

61. You have to consider the number of jobs in the insurance companies...and insurance companies are

involved in both Germany's and Switzerland's insurance program...they are strictly regulated. We may end up with a hybrid system and that is fine if it leads to universal coverage. You will not get rid of insurance companies easily.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #61)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:14 PM

69. Capitalists rarely surrender an opportunity to profit.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #69)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:48 PM

85. We are not close to making that happen...so why not get what we can while talking about what we hope

for the future? I do think that if we started with an public option...which there is support for...we will end up with universal coverage.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #85)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:36 PM

88. As I said, to someone, we can do both.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:20 PM

20. But Other Plans Were Well Thought Out

not just hit on as the latest idea of someone else. I wonder what Gillibrand and Booker's plans are like in comparison

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Response to Me. (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:21 PM

21. My comment in #11.

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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:53 PM

12. Pie in the Sky

This is the Jean-Luc Picard approach:

Make it so.

You'll notice the details are unavailable because the plan is still in . . . draft stage.

Wearisome.

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:17 PM

19. Dare I Say It

details are currently unavailable on a lot of plans these days

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Response to Me. (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:26 PM

22. LOL!!

You can and you did, thus:

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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:08 PM

60. PLUS (dont you love how I start in the middle of a sentence) there are up to one million

American workers and worse, thousands of very wealthy executives who lose big if we go to single payer and by worse I mean they will fight it like hell.

Wait , we are talking about jobs, never mind.

Do the Bernie supporters acknowledge there is no way this can happen until the Democrats get super majorities in both the House and Senate?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #60)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:14 PM

68. No..They Don't Care

because they really don't care...it's all about the fundraising Cha-Ching

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:42 PM

4. Sanders AND Common Dreams.



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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:44 PM

6. I understand your position.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:48 PM

8. Gillibrand & Booker have already announced similar plans.

 

A real leader would be getting everyone together on the same page instead of grandstanding on other people's ideas.

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Response to TheSmarterDog (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:50 PM

11. Have Gillibrand and Booker been doing so?

And how do all 3 plans compare?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:32 PM

25. As I Understand It

BS is going for a guaranteed income they are going for jobs which, if so, is more realistic. People in this country don't even want to give the needy free food.


“Gillibrand recently told The Nation, “Guaranteed jobs programs, creating floors for wages and benefits, and expanding the right to collectively bargain are exactly the type of roles that government must take to shift power back to workers and our communities.”

http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/384450-gillibrands-jobs-plan-another-federal-program-we-dont-need

“Booker (D-N.J.) announced a new bill on Friday to establish a three-year pilot program that would guarantee jobs for all residents in up to 15 high-unemployment communities and regions. The Department of Labor would award grants to the selected areas so adults living there would be guaranteed jobs paying at least $15 an hour with health coverage and paid family and sick leave.”

http://observer.com/2018/04/cory-booker-bill-would-guarantee-jobs-in-15-local-areas/


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Response to Me. (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:36 PM

27. The same objections of unworkable and unaffordable will be raised.

We need to define the debate rather than only respond to the right.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #27)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:40 PM

30. But Not Mindlessly

while trying to grab the brass ring

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Response to Me. (Reply #30)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:53 PM

40. And drawing that line is what we are doing.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:15 PM

73. Bernie's plan is more broad based. But, kudos to Booker and Gillibrand for

adopting Bernie's progressive vision and putting themselves out there on this and other views Bernie has espoused, like rejecting dirty corporate cash. I commend them for taking a principled stand and doing the right thing in the interest of those on Main Street, as opposed to Wall Street.

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Response to TheSmarterDog (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:57 PM

14. But the bottom line is none of these plans will pass Congress.

I prefer to run on things we can really accomplish.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:00 PM

17. Presenting a united front against the GOP fascists would be an accomplishment.

 

Something Sanders will never allow himself to do.

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Response to TheSmarterDog (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:47 PM

33. Yeah...I like all the plans.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:49 PM

10. Embracing the sort of bold thinking we need, Sanders offers

anyone who sends $29.99 automatically renewed monthly for a weight loss regime of positive thinking. If you think positively about weight loss...someone/somewhere might lose weight. Your weight loss is not guaranteed since Sanders cannot assure the fervor of your weight loss thinking.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:56 PM

42. +1000



I really wish he would just go away. I'm so sick of hearing about him and from him.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #42)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:08 PM

82. DITTO!!!! nt

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:56 PM

13. And do you seriously believe that Americans will support this?

I am sad to say, we live in a center left country...run on the ACA, infrastructure, how shitty Trump is about pretty much everything...If we follow this advice, we lose.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:58 PM

15. I disagree.

Running as the anti-Trump is not enough. We need ideas to counteract the 50 years of right wing framing about what is possible and what will and will not work.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:49 PM

36. We can't do that between now and 18...and 20. Realistically, it will take years...in the meantime we

protect the ACA ...a winning issue for us now...so ironic...and introduce a public option. We work on jobs, help kids with college debt...we have create the demand before we fulfill it.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #36)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:58 PM

44. We must do all of it.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #44)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:05 PM

55. We have to concentrate on what is achievable. And build a demand for what I call the good stuff...

We must win in 18 and 20.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #44)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:37 PM

78. We should.

Please stop with dreams that are not going to happen.

Sorry, yet that is bull.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #78)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:57 PM

81. Dreams do happen.

Slaves dreamed of freedom.

Women dreamed of the vote.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #81)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:03 PM

87. Hmmm

guillaumeb (23,020 posts)
81. Dreams do happen.

Slaves dreamed of freedom.

Women dreamed of the vote.


Oh please. Dreams, Dream on.

Yeah..............slaves dreamed of freedom. After the Emancipation Proclamation, where they were freed? Took until the start of WWI for it to happen. Read Slavery By Another Name, Douglas Blackmon.

Yeah...us silly ass women dreamed to vote. Some of us died trying. Yet here we have a panel telling us what we should do with our bodies. They regulate us. They insert probes into our bodies. They write laws that make a fetus more important than a woman's heath.


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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #87)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:39 PM

89. Very true.

Also, The New Jim Crow is an excellent book.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:28 PM

23. Quite the spring offensive Sanders followers have mounted today

Loads of threads. Interesting.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:34 PM

26. Better to play offense than defense.

Better to frame the debate than respond to another's framing.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:50 PM

37. Well at least you acknowledge its all coordinated

So many of his devotees wont. I’m guessing Our Revolution just had a workshop or something?

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #37)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:58 PM

45. I am not a member.

I have no idea.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:52 PM

38. I agree, but I'm sure you realize

that some here are incapable of evvaluating an idea of Bernie's objectively.
If he eliminated world hunger, they'd likely accuse him of promoting obesity.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:48 PM

79. Heh heh.

I noticed that as well.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:30 PM

24. ...

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:37 PM

28. ...


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:38 PM

29. I expect that from some responders.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:06 PM

57. Lol, yes, they're quite predictable

I'd guess most are political neophytes posing as clever insiders.









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Response to whathehell (Reply #57)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:10 PM

65. ...

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #65)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:18 PM

83. Riiiiight!

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Response to whathehell (Reply #57)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:15 PM

71. Predictable at times.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:09 PM

63. ...


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:15 PM

72. Just how the young, new voters feel about the Democratic Party.

So keep trashing Bernie and see how far that gets us.

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Response to OnionPatch (Reply #72)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:22 PM

84. ...

Just how the young, new voters feel about the Democratic Party.
I see no evidence of that. Personally, I think they're much more intelligent and politically aware than you're giving them credit for, and less likely to be attracted to "celebrity" politicians.

You may feel that the Democratic party is so "boring" or "corrupt" or "feeble" or "ideologically bankrupt" (as Bernie says) but that doesn't mean it's true.

So keep trashing Bernie and see how far that gets us.
Nobody is "trashing" Bernie. But clearly you're telling me you feel he's above being criticized.

How convenient.


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #84)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:00 PM

86. Above being criticized? Seriously?

This whole website should be called BerniehaterUnderground these days. Which is why I stopped coming here much in the last year or so. I see nothings changed so I’ll just move along. But I do miss the old DU where progressive ideas used to be championed, not scorned.

BTW, my straight A student who votes this fall is a Bernie fan and quite informed on politics. How condescending of you to believe anyone who doesn’t see things your way is somehow uninformed or impractical.

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Response to OnionPatch (Reply #86)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:47 PM

90. ...

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:48 PM

34. How the hell?

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Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #34)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:01 PM

47. That is the question.

How to change the debate so the ideas are seen as necessary and attainable.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #47)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:08 PM

59. Changing the debate is not a mechanism

If someone proposes a radical idea I want a mechanism describing how it’s going to work. I can change the debate about the law of gravity all I want but that isn’t a mechanism for abrogating it.

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Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #59)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:13 PM

67. Not quite the same.

We must show that we have a plan, and that the plan is necessary.

When FDR rolled out the New Deal, it had never been done here.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:48 PM

35. Preemptive 2020 shit stirring using unattainable pipe dreams instead of a spoon.

Instead of this type of magical unicorn stuff, could we focus on getting Democrats (actual Dems, not ones who change affiliation only for the few months of the Primaries) into office?

This shit is going to divide us AGAIN and see that we get four more years of republicans when we should easily wipe the floor with their miserable asses.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:53 PM

39. Gillibrand/Booker

plans seem to break down into raising federal minimum wage, protecting and expanding unions/union membership, ensuring the ACA minimum benefits stay in place and making sure the Pension Guarantee Protection Board is fully funded. If there are guaranteed jobs, the GOP's desire to make recipients of SNAP, etc, work is moot.

All of the above are pretty mainstream Dem policy positions, just packaged with different words.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #39)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:00 PM

46. The big question to all of these ideas is "how?"

If the right prevails in Janus v AFSCME, the union movement will suffer a large blow.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #46)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:04 PM

53. This a radical solution, but

if I were a Dem, I'd push for repealing ALL legislation that discusses collective bargaining, unionization except the one that guarantees Americans the right to organize. IMHO, the current labor laws really tie the hands of those trying to organize. If labor and management were dividing a deck of cards today, management holds 50 or 51 of them.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #53)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:09 PM

64. That would effectively repeal Taft-Hartley.

Which forms the basis for the right wing attack on labor.

Nice point.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #64)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:11 PM

94. I think dollars to donuts if

a Dem actually proposed repealing Taft-Hartley and Wagner, Rs would oppose it. That's how much I believe these labor laws actually hurt labor.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:01 PM

48. We already have someone running on a more bold platform in this area.

 

He is a Democrat and is making UBI the cornerstone of his campaign. At just over forty years old he is pretty well accomplished. Is Sanders positioning himself more toward the center? His idea is one Democrats have been talking about for some time.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #48)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:02 PM

49. Please say more.

Who is this person?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #49)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:04 PM

52. Andrew Yang. Nt

 

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #49)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:07 PM

58. Pretty good article from about five years ago.

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #58)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:12 PM

66. FDR had a jobs plan.

The CCC. Imagine rebuilding US infrastructure using millions of workers. That would be a stimulus plan.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #66)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:21 PM

75. Carter signed a federal jobs plan.

 

My grandfather was in the CCC for a bit.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:02 PM

50. Sounds great,

let me know when he actually puts it in a bill and introduces it on the Senate Floor or the puts it on the presiding officer's desk. I wont hold my breath.

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Response to Eko (Reply #50)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:03 PM

51. Nor will I.

But we need offense as well as defense for the team.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #51)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:06 PM

56. We have offense.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:24 PM

76. He is not a Democrat!

Until he is willing to become a democrat for good and not just until he has used the party for his convenience! He is NOT a Democrat!

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #76)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:56 PM

80. I know.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:47 PM

91. ...

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Response to mcar (Reply #91)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:49 PM

92. Would you like a blanket and pillow?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #92)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:57 PM

93. That would be lovely

Thank you!

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