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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:20 AM Apr 2018

Gowdy: Americans should not trust House Intel Comm review of Russia collusion---should trust Mueller

Important (even if it is gowdy)

Gowdy admits Americans should not trust House Intel Comm review of Russia collusion—should trust Mueller instead:

House Commtee is “what you should NOT have confidence in. Have confidence in the Exec Branch investigations and if Mueller finds stuff, more power to him”



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Gowdy: Americans should not trust House Intel Comm review of Russia collusion---should trust Mueller (Original Post) kpete Apr 2018 OP
I am surprised still_one Apr 2018 #1
Gowdy has been saying this for a while. House Investigation not trustworthy, trust Mueller emulatorloo Apr 2018 #3
Funny how Gowdy - Mr. Benghazi himself - NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #7
Gowdy's frantically grabbing for shreds of integrity as he scampers away gratuitous Apr 2018 #15
Exactly. This will NOT get any traction on Fox or the RW nuttisphere. This will be ignored. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #16
I think he knows something. That is why he is leaving. JDC Apr 2018 #18
I remind people NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #20
Are you saying that this is like losing a bishop on the chess board, only to improve your position erronis Apr 2018 #44
I think Trump is a lot worse than Nixon NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #48
I think you could be right. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #29
Trumpy and a whole slew of GOPers are going down. Not just Trumpy. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2018 #38
Gowdy Done Got True Blue American Apr 2018 #22
surprised??? Larrybanal Apr 2018 #43
Same here, LOL still_one Apr 2018 #46
Okay one shred of decency is observed at this moment. Not sure if there is any more poboy2 Apr 2018 #2
Hes been saying this kind of stuff about the investigation for a while. emulatorloo Apr 2018 #5
What in the world has gotten into BenGowdy lately? Cirque du So-What Apr 2018 #4
he's retiring from Congress NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #8
I knew he's retiring Cirque du So-What Apr 2018 #10
supposedly NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #19
Yes. I read that also. Appreciate your post as truth that I didn't imagine it.. Wwcd Apr 2018 #32
OK, I missed the xxqqqzme Apr 2018 #17
Gowdy True Blue American Apr 2018 #24
Look - gowdy and the rest of those critters have already stashed plenty of cash erronis Apr 2018 #45
Gowdy respects Nunes... RockRaven Apr 2018 #6
Gowdy, for just a moment sometimes awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #9
We're going to need allies Nasruddin Apr 2018 #21
He's leaving, awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #25
Mostly, I agree with you PJMcK Apr 2018 #51
History will remember the Republicans Liberalhammer Apr 2018 #11
. Achilleaze Apr 2018 #12
I continue to wonder what his angle is. malthaussen Apr 2018 #13
+ a million. Wwcd Apr 2018 #28
IF Mueller finds stuff leftinalabama Apr 2018 #14
Wonder how much relayerbob Apr 2018 #23
What could have turned Gowdy from "lock her up" to "Trust Only Mueller"? Wwcd Apr 2018 #26
Is Gowdy growing a conscience all of a sudden given he's about to leave Congress? onetexan Apr 2018 #27
I read awhile ago that Gowdy wanted a Fed Judgeship appt. Wwcd Apr 2018 #30
But Federal judges are appointed by the President... malthaussen Apr 2018 #33
I have no answer. Wwcd Apr 2018 #34
Won't be the first time I wish I were a fly on a wall... malthaussen Apr 2018 #36
Don't worry, lots of US/furrin/corp intel are listening in. And increasingly, controlling. erronis Apr 2018 #47
Why would his leaving cause him to grow a conscience? malthaussen Apr 2018 #31
Hope he still feels this way. Habibi Apr 2018 #35
Was about to post the same. OP should make a point to mention this is from 6 weeks ago IMHO nt mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #37
He seems to be having an outbreak Turbineguy Apr 2018 #39
when did the little shite get replaced by a pod person? niyad Apr 2018 #40
Is there a conflict between Gowdy and Nunes? LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #41
Gowdy breaking bad on his fellow repubs. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #42
@"breaking bad.." Really! What if Cha Apr 2018 #50
Why? I don't know. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #52
Gowdy.. a voice Cha Apr 2018 #53
This coming from the Benghazi Cha Apr 2018 #49
+1 CentralMass Apr 2018 #55
Most Americans duforsure Apr 2018 #54
Media has been using BS headlines. It is the REPUBLICAN report sharedvalues Apr 2018 #56

emulatorloo

(44,116 posts)
3. Gowdy has been saying this for a while. House Investigation not trustworthy, trust Mueller
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:25 AM
Apr 2018

I think the shit Nunes et al have pulled is a bridge to far for Gowdy.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. Funny how Gowdy - Mr. Benghazi himself -
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:33 AM
Apr 2018

acts with at least a little integrity now that he's retiring from Congress.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Gowdy's frantically grabbing for shreds of integrity as he scampers away
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:04 PM
Apr 2018

But it will be interesting to see if Gowdy's comments now get as much play as his comments then got. Because so far, I don't see him popping up on the news shows the way he used to.

JDC

(10,125 posts)
18. I think he knows something. That is why he is leaving.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:07 PM
Apr 2018

Chafetz, Ryan, Gowdy, and the record number of R's (committee seats no less) leaving is an indication(They have seen irrefutable evidence I believe) that they know Dotard is going down. It would be literal political suicide to stick around for that. They can exit now, let the debacle play out, make a lot if lobby cash, then get back to politics once the stench of *45 has disipated a bit. They can ride in at that point and say they were always against Trump and left for the right reasons, etc etc and call themselves "patriots" the whole way.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
20. I remind people
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:13 PM
Apr 2018

that Nixon resigned in the face of impeachment in 1974. Only 2 years later, Ford lost a close election to Jimmy Carter and then Reagan beat Carter 4 years later

erronis

(15,241 posts)
44. Are you saying that this is like losing a bishop on the chess board, only to improve your position
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:30 PM
Apr 2018

in a few moves onward?

I think there are some very astute chess-players or poli-scis (never thought I'd combine astute and political science) that are using the "evaluate all possible outcomes" in the governance of the US.

So, the repugs foul the nest and steal the eggs, get another democratic janitor to try to clean it up, and then come back for another round of thievery. Magpies.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
48. I think Trump is a lot worse than Nixon
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:54 PM
Apr 2018

but, some Republicans might feel that the situation is somewhat similar - if Trump gets talked into resigning by some in the GOP, it will likely be because they think they can win in 2020 with the right candidate, or 2024 at the latest.

And, with the Republican ability to drive the nightly news cycle, they could be correct.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
38. Trumpy and a whole slew of GOPers are going down. Not just Trumpy.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:09 PM
Apr 2018

Gowdy wants a career beyond Congress. He's protecting himself.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
2. Okay one shred of decency is observed at this moment. Not sure if there is any more
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:24 AM
Apr 2018

or if this shred will be there next week, but here, today, now -it is. It exists....at this time.

emulatorloo

(44,116 posts)
5. Hes been saying this kind of stuff about the investigation for a while.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:25 AM
Apr 2018

I was schocked the first time. I guess I may be shocked that he continues to discount the house investigation and say the Mueller investigation is the real investigation. But he does.

Cirque du So-What

(25,927 posts)
10. I knew he's retiring
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:05 PM
Apr 2018

but I don't know his plans afterward and whether this could put him in the doghouse.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
32. Yes. I read that also. Appreciate your post as truth that I didn't imagine it..
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:48 PM
Apr 2018

Somedays, ya know?
LOL.


xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
17. OK, I missed the
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:07 PM
Apr 2018

the announcement this rat was leaving. Now I get it. If he apologizes to Secretary Clinton and American taxpayers, I'll give him a little space.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
45. Look - gowdy and the rest of those critters have already stashed plenty of cash
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:35 PM
Apr 2018

Perhaps safely in russian bank vaults.

For appearances sake, they may take up religion and pulpitry, painting, directors of various boards, even philanthropy. But none of them are so hurting as to need to get a real job.

Unless their stashes turn out to be worthless.......

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
9. Gowdy, for just a moment sometimes
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:47 AM
Apr 2018

shows a tiny bit of integrity. He probably hates Nunes for some reason.

But don't be fooled. He'll vote to take your health care access away, he'll vote to privatize the VA, he'll vote to destroy the environment and pass tax cuts for the rich, he'll vote to demonize immigrants. Just like any republican, it's party before country.









PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
51. Mostly, I agree with you
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 07:04 AM
Apr 2018

Right now, the United States faces an existential crisis. Trump could break our country.

For now, anyone opposed to Trump is our ally. When we've regained our Republic and its norms, we can sort out what our new political divisions will be.

 

Liberalhammer

(576 posts)
11. History will remember the Republicans
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:51 PM
Apr 2018

On the committee as traitors.

Gowdy knows this. Thus his actions.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
13. I continue to wonder what his angle is.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:54 PM
Apr 2018

Yes, I am a cynical SOB. It's possible his time (as head of the Intel Committee, no less) has triggered his gag reflex. I'm sure I am wrong to be looking for dive-bombing pigs.

That I can't figure an angle would support the idea of his repentance, but it could also be that I am not imaginative enough, not sleazy enough, or don't have all the data.

-- Mal

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
26. What could have turned Gowdy from "lock her up" to "Trust Only Mueller"?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:41 PM
Apr 2018

What brought this about?

Something went askew with Gowdy in the RW swamp.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
30. I read awhile ago that Gowdy wanted a Fed Judgeship appt.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:45 PM
Apr 2018

Maybe it was murmers but who the H knows anymore.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
33. But Federal judges are appointed by the President...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:50 PM
Apr 2018

... with the Senate's advice and consent. Thus, it would seem counter-productive to put himself in opposition, unless he is expecting a flip by the time he is up for appointment, which would argue longer-range thinking than I am accustomed to attribute to politicians.

-- Mal

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
34. I have no answer.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:59 PM
Apr 2018




If the true story of each RW player in pre & post 2016 was ever suddenly made known....we would be more stunned that we are now, with the small bits of revelations we are made privy to.

If for one hour of one day we were to know what Mueller knows..wouldn't that be something.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
36. Won't be the first time I wish I were a fly on a wall...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:02 PM
Apr 2018

... I'd love to chat with the Apostle Rufus from Dogma.

-- Mal

erronis

(15,241 posts)
47. Don't worry, lots of US/furrin/corp intel are listening in. And increasingly, controlling.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:44 PM
Apr 2018

Now, if they would only post all that trash on the tubes.

But the tubes would crash because of the volume of sewage.

Ok, too many metaphors.

Cha

(297,149 posts)
50. @"breaking bad.." Really! What if
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 06:20 AM
Apr 2018

he as a repub didn't say these things? there would be no one who I can think of.

The question is why? And, will some repubs listen to him?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
54. Most Americans
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 07:18 AM
Apr 2018

Don't believe this from the House intel committee either, and every day more comes out disputing its findings as not credible. This will also make more people realize the extent of their deceiving the American people, and will vote them all out of office for it. Their cover up could mean even more problems as the House and Senate control turns over to the Democrats, then they'll have to answer for what they've done when they head investigations , and it shows they covered up for trump, making them co-conspirator's of obstruction. That's illegal. This is backfiring badly on trump and the republicans now. The blue wave just keeps getting bigger every day against them with stuff like this coming out.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
56. Media has been using BS headlines. It is the REPUBLICAN report
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 08:11 AM
Apr 2018

The democrats on the committee refused to sign onto the Nunes report, and issued their own.

So it is not the committee report. It is a REPUBLICAN report. The president is lying about this and the pliant media are repeating his words. Oh how I wish we had an objective media that would report the truth, not just what people say.

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